gpu bubble well and truly bursting

[hanskan]

The "bubble" has burst when we see new 1070's @ $320 or less, 1080's @ $420 or less, and 1080 ti's dropping into the low $600's

bubble bursting has nothing to do with cost of GPU. How do you even come to that conclusion ? 

[JaredKaragen]

Mining always ends up being a mean function of hardware price and cost of power.

I'd call it a profitability wave; not a bubble.  Bubbles are things like quantitative easing, credit  and bailouts....  more than they are likened to alt coin mining.

The still high price of gpu means there is still a demand that outweighs the availability of asics on hand/in manufacture.  Once a new tier to take foot is conceived, price will lower as usual.... Or if demand finally slows down.

I see the profitability still rippling as people are buying and putting more gear online concurrently.  Soon when it plateaus, you will see a decline in gpu cost.  Sadly I think many stressed/overclocked things like 1080ti's will go for sale as used, but people will just want too damned much of them

[btcgolong]

The "bubble" has burst when we see new 1070's @ $320 or less, 1080's @ $420 or less, and 1080 ti's dropping into the low $600's

bubble bursting has nothing to do with cost of GPU. How do you even come to that conclusion ?  

They are talking about the cost of GPUs, that started to go up in price at the beginning of the year (or was it March?) because of increased mining demand. Not a coin bubble. For a while it was impossible to find some GPUs.



I've noticed a small price drop at my local store and there is more supply...

[Pennywis3]

that was before cards had gone wild in price.  I recently got a zotac   1080 ti mini for 739 - 60 = 679  - 50 = 629

Philip, how are those Zotac mini 1080Ti cooling wise?
Is the cooler efficient for mining compared to other, bigger 1080Ti's?

[CjMapope]

that was before cards had gone wild in price.  I recently got a zotac   1080 ti mini for 739 - 60 = 679  - 50 = 629

Philip, how are those Zotac mini 1080Ti cooling wise?
Is the cooler efficient for mining compared to other, bigger 1080Ti's?

i was looking at those, would LOVE to have x6 for my Mintcell flow case, would look so bomb
no RGB tho, thats sad haha, but im vain like that sometimes with my cards, especially if im doing specific custom "aesthetic" builds ;p

Uber Profitability comes and goes, but the "bubble" will never "burst" ;p  another day, another opportunity for a miner, imo

[lycipher]

It's a matter of time now until GPU miners will start selling their used cards. I doubt they will meet any demand from gamers as it's a pretty risky shot to buy some used GPU now.
So, maybe those who still have factory warranty for their GPUs will be lucky enough to sell their cards now until the price for used cards has reached its bottom.

[hanskan]

It's a matter of time now until GPU miners will start selling their used cards. I doubt they will meet any demand from gamers as it's a pretty risky shot to buy some used GPU now.
So, maybe those who still have factory warranty for their GPUs will be lucky enough to sell their cards now until the price for used cards has reached its bottom.

Care to elaborate how you got to this conclusion ?

Are you just jealous because you can't afford a GPU or few and now just FUDing like madman ?  

[jmigdlc99]

In my country GPUs are slowly starting to flood the market. We have a facebook group for miners and suddenly everyone is selling their mining rigs. Funny how people are acting as predicted. You'd think the people who are getting into mining are tech savvy and at least know how to plan and research. Apparently not.

Let the panic subside. Mining is long term guys. Very good ETH speculation by next month.

[hanskan]

just transferred zec to polo, will cash in and buy 3 more 1080ti, anyone wanna sell theirs cause whole cryptoworld is going to collapse very soon

[QuintLeo]

The "bubble" has burst when we see new 1070's @ $320 or less, 1080's @ $420 or less, and 1080 ti's dropping into the low $600's

bubble bursting has nothing to do with cost of GPU. How do you even come to that conclusion ?  

They are talking about the cost of GPUs, that started to go up in price at the beginning of the year (or was it March?) because of increased mining demand. Not a coin bubble. For a while it was impossible to find some GPUs.

 Late Febuary/early March timeframe for AMD RX 470/480/570/580 cards as I recall, about a month later the price on those got so high that the NVidia GTX 1070 and then 1060 cards started getting affected as well.
 Look for when the big ETH price spike started, add about a week for the initial GPU price climb to start, 2 weeks later the shortage was in full swing and the prices were going through the roof - then ballpark 5-6 weeks later is when NVidia started getting noticeably hit on the 1070, add a couple more weeks and the 1060 started getting hit noticeably.

 Never had a noticeable direct effect on the GTX 1080 or GTX 1080ti (By the time the good NVidia ZEC miners started showing up, prices had flattened out and the overall demand was starting to drop) but there may have been some indirect effect from gamers that WANTED the 1070 and decided to "move up" when the 1070 price got into 1080 levels, or due to massive widespread 1070 shortages.

[bearsworth]

just transferred zec to polo, will cash in and buy 3 more 1080ti, anyone wanna sell theirs cause whole cryptoworld is going to collapse very soon

Dude stop copying. I just sold some too. Let them panic sell. We need gtx 1080ti going for $500 and less.

[QuintLeo]

just transferred zec to polo, will cash in and buy 3 more 1080ti, anyone wanna sell theirs cause whole cryptoworld is going to collapse very soon

Dude stop copying. I just sold some too. Let them panic sell. We need gtx 1080ti going for $500 and less.

 Probability ZERO as long as it is the current "top gaming card".

 Be happy it's back in the $700 or a bit under range again, where it was in January.

[bearsworth]

just transferred zec to polo, will cash in and buy 3 more 1080ti, anyone wanna sell theirs cause whole cryptoworld is going to collapse very soon

Dude stop copying. I just sold some too. Let them panic sell. We need gtx 1080ti going for $500 and less.

 Probability ZERO as long as it is the current "top gaming card".

 Be happy it's back in the $700 or a bit under range again, where it was in January.

Well we can always try to spread FUD .

[Marvell2]

just transferred zec to polo, will cash in and buy 3 more 1080ti, anyone wanna sell theirs cause whole cryptoworld is going to collapse very soon

Dude stop copying. I just sold some too. Let them panic sell. We need gtx 1080ti going for $500 and less.

 Probability ZERO as long as it is the current "top gaming card".

 Be happy it's back in the $700 or a bit under range again, where it was in January.

Well we can always try to spread FUD .

Youre Irritating bro, $500 1080ti? really? GTFO lol

[Pennywis3]

just transferred zec to polo, will cash in and buy 3 more 1080ti, anyone wanna sell theirs cause whole cryptoworld is going to collapse very soon

Dude stop copying. I just sold some too. Let them panic sell. We need gtx 1080ti going for $500 and less.

 Probability ZERO as long as it is the current "top gaming card".

 Be happy it's back in the $700 or a bit under range again, where it was in January.

Where dude?

In EU, 1080Ti's are going for 800-850$, about 720 euros+, and those are the cheap Inno3d ones, which noone wants to buy.
If you're looking at the good ones, Evga, Aorus, Zotac etc. you're looking at 900$++

[radeone]

i havent mined eth since early this year. there are better coins to mine with higher rewards and more hodlability.

[Pennywis3]

that was before cards had gone wild in price.  I recently got a zotac   1080 ti mini for 739 - 60 = 679  - 50 = 629

Philip, how are those Zotac mini 1080Ti cooling wise?
Is the cooler efficient for mining compared to other, bigger 1080Ti's?

i was looking at those, would LOVE to have x6 for my Mintcell flow case, would look so bomb
no RGB tho, thats sad haha, but im vain like that sometimes with my cards, especially if im doing specific custom "aesthetic" builds ;p

Uber Profitability comes and goes, but the "bubble" will never "burst" ;p  another day, another opportunity for a miner, imo

Read a few reviews, unfortunately the card runs hot. Just as hot as founders blower edition, in some cases even hotter.
Aorus or Evga cards run about 70C under load, while the mini goes to 84-85C, which is a bit too much for mining i guess.

Too bad as it realy is a sexy card

[QuintLeo]

 Probability ZERO as long as it is the current "top gaming card".

 Be happy it's back in the $700 or a bit under range again, where it was in January.

Where dude?

 Newegg - but I'm in the US, you EU types seem to get shafted on pricing due to your generally very high taxes like VAT.


 My Aorus in the gaming machine runs at 65-66C under full ZEC mining load, not "about 70" - but it's in a case with good cooling in an air-conditioned environment.
 I DO have it set up for 100% TDP, a mild core overclock, and my usual fan profile in Afterburner.

 The Zotac 1080 and 1070 mini cards run reasonably cool, but they're at a lot lower TDP than a 1080ti has to deal with and all 3 models appear to use the SAME identical cooler.
 I'd expect the 1080ti model to run quite a bit hotter.

[KaydenC]

just transferred zec to polo, will cash in and buy 3 more 1080ti, anyone wanna sell theirs cause whole cryptoworld is going to collapse very soon

Dude stop copying. I just sold some too. Let them panic sell. We need gtx 1080ti going for $500 and less.

 Probability ZERO as long as it is the current "top gaming card".

 Be happy it's back in the $700 or a bit under range again, where it was in January.

Where dude?

In EU, 1080Ti's are going for 800-850$, about 720 euros+, and those are the cheap Inno3d ones, which noone wants to buy.
If you're looking at the good ones, Evga, Aorus, Zotac etc. you're looking at 900$++

I bought a 18 of those "cheap Inno3d" 1080tis. They even reused the cooler from 780Ti lol. It works, and is way cooler than my FE 1080tis. Sure the cooling aren't as great as Evga's SC2 lineup. Maybe a few decibals higher to keep the same temp, but they use identical PCB (the founder's edition PCB) and at $660USD vs $760, I'll take inno3d any day.


My FE 1080tis are hitting 75 degrees at 80% Pl and 100% fan speed, but Inno3ds are 68 degrees and barely audible. I would suggest getting the Inno3d, as there is no difference in mining speed between it and the SC2. It's slightly faster than FE too because of better cooling.

[Xenoblate]

 Probability ZERO as long as it is the current "top gaming card".

 Be happy it's back in the $700 or a bit under range again, where it was in January.

Where dude?

 Newegg - but I'm in the US, you EU types seem to get shafted on pricing due to your generally very high taxes like VAT.


 My Aorus in the gaming machine runs at 65-66C under full ZEC mining load, not "about 70" - but it's in a case with good cooling in an air-conditioned environment.
 I DO have it set up for 100% TDP, a mild core overclock, and my usual fan profile in Afterburner.

 The Zotac 1080 and 1070 mini cards run reasonably cool, but they're at a lot lower TDP than a 1080ti has to deal with and all 3 models appear to use the SAME identical cooler.
 I'd expect the 1080ti model to run quite a bit hotter.

In my price, the price is about 30% higher than in US.