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Author Topic: [ANN] TIERION [TNT]Token Sale Starts on 27 July  (Read 88243 times)
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October 01, 2017, 02:39:01 AM
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This is small exchanges. With such big partner (Microsoft) they must be listed on Bittrex and Polo  Undecided

It will be listed on BITTREX just give it some time and love. BTW do BITTREX still accepts the paid listing of tokens?

I think that TNT will be listed on many major exchanges in the near future. Developers have a big funds and we need to wait when negotiations with big exchanges will end.

what is your proof for this statement?

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October 01, 2017, 12:37:22 PM
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Why Tierion not in this list??
https://www.binance.com/vote.html

Why still any good exchange in such big project?
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October 01, 2017, 01:58:37 PM
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Tierion Network Update - Here's an update on the Tierion Network's second week online.
Read more: https://medium.com/tierion/tierion-network-update-september-29-d502dc37dfcc.
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October 01, 2017, 06:30:51 PM
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We anticipate re-enabling rewards for a limited number of nodes in the second week of October.

Quoted from weekly update. This could be super-lucrative for those who get their nodes into the selection. Limited number of nodes means more frequent rewards.
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October 01, 2017, 06:34:03 PM
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This is small exchanges. With such big partner (Microsoft) they must be listed on Bittrex and Polo  Undecided

It will be listed on BITTREX just give it some time and love. BTW do BITTREX still accepts the paid listing of tokens?

I think that TNT will be listed on many major exchanges in the near future. Developers have a big funds and we need to wait when negotiations with big exchanges will end.

what is your proof for this statement?
No proof just pure speculation for sure.The thing i can see on here is that they are in partner of Microsoft which we do know that its a big company possibilities on hyping this out will be there.

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October 01, 2017, 10:34:05 PM
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Patience is needed. Tierion will grow it just needs time as with most other cryptos.

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October 03, 2017, 12:59:21 AM
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Lottery system makes the projects value worthless. I have tierion tokens but not use lottery system. If you enter the exchanges in this way, the value may not increase. What do you think about it?
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October 03, 2017, 06:57:59 AM
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Lottery system makes the projects value worthless. I have tierion tokens but not use lottery system. If you enter the exchanges in this way, the value may not increase. What do you think about it?

I agree, lottery system is the only thing that stops me from running a terion node. I hope they will come up with a solution soon
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October 03, 2017, 02:57:51 PM
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Will wait for TNT nodes to get stable and see the reviews from others, if its effective to run nodes or not
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October 05, 2017, 01:03:11 AM
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Lottery system makes the projects value worthless. I have tierion tokens but not use lottery system. If you enter the exchanges in this way, the value may not increase. What do you think about it?

I agree, lottery system is the only thing that stops me from running a terion node. I hope they will come up with a solution soon

I read a news about the lottery system being stopped. I hope so. Lotto system prevents the development of the project. Maybe it can start again after a certain time. But then this is not the time.

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October 05, 2017, 08:21:25 AM
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Lottery system makes the projects value worthless. I have tierion tokens but not use lottery system. If you enter the exchanges in this way, the value may not increase. What do you think about it?

I agree, lottery system is the only thing that stops me from running a terion node. I hope they will come up with a solution soon

I read a news about the lottery system being stopped. I hope so. Lotto system prevents the development of the project. Maybe it can start again after a certain time. But then this is not the time.

IMO lottery system made confuse to dev and system because someone attacked to decrease node numbers.
That is rumor, not sure it is true or lie.

I hope Tierion team develop better solution to distribute tokens to holder.
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October 05, 2017, 02:24:03 PM
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I followed the tierion telegram, here is some clarification of what happened.

There was a "lottery" reward system, of 6537 TNT attributed to one random node every 30 minutes.
With a low number of nodes, this was very appealing, having more nodes increases winning stats.

That meant for long term investors, that they could leverage their investment - if you invested 50k$ in tierion, you could spawn 200 nodes, with a VPS at 5$ per month, cost of leveraging investment was only 1%... so why not.

Add to this that it is easy to write a script for the automation of nodes (I shared one at https://github.com/jupiter126/updatetierionnodes) - and have been reported it was used to spawn at least 500 nodes...

Hence many people started spawing many nodes, the count reaching over 10000 in 2 weeks of mainnet launch.

Now the thing is that tierion did not expect such a rise in the number of nodes.  On the one hand, the internal infrastructure of tierion was not ready to handle this kind of volume, while on the other hand so many people competing for rewards and testing the software uncovered a few bugs.

With those bugs being exploited in the wild, many node operators complained - hence tierion asked node operators to temporarily downsize their network to one node, and disabled the rewards for the time being.

My bet is that once Tierion has addressed those infrastructure issues and critical bugs, the network will return to "normal operations", reenabling rewards and telling nodeoperators to run as many nodes as they want.
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Edit: The attack described in a post above goes as following:
chainpoint-cli can be used on any computer
chainpoint-node is the node

To run the node, you some TNT, AND some credits, each time one chainpoint-cli sends a hash requests to a node, the node submits it to core and spends one credit.
With the IP's of nodes available through the API, it was very easy for anybody to write a script, sending hash requests to a node, to deplete it from its credits.
Right now, credits are free, and Tierion tops up all nodes every 24 hours, so this attack became pointless.  This is a temporary situation though, as credits sales to node operators seems to be Tierion's main revenue source.  This attack would allow to spend a competitors money in the worst case, and in the best case disrupt his node by getting his TNT balance lower than the requirement limit.  So yes the attack is DDOSING the network is done at node operators cost, not the attacker.
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October 05, 2017, 04:27:47 PM
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Lottery system makes the projects value worthless. I have tierion tokens but not use lottery system. If you enter the exchanges in this way, the value may not increase. What do you think about it?

I agree, lottery system is the only thing that stops me from running a terion node. I hope they will come up with a solution soon

I read a news about the lottery system being stopped. I hope so. Lotto system prevents the development of the project. Maybe it can start again after a certain time. But then this is not the time.

I hope, it have been stopped. A coin that rises to the top of the ico price, how it can fall to below ico price in such a short time. The project team needs to find the answer and move fast accordingly.
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October 05, 2017, 04:44:37 PM
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price will continue to sink for sure until team comes up with real solution for the nodes and let investors utilize unlimited number of nodes.


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October 07, 2017, 07:05:19 PM
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price will continue to sink for sure until team comes up with real solution for the nodes and let investors utilize unlimited number of nodes.



The price in the short time was 4 times higher. Those who did not sell could have regretted it. but I still believe that it will rise. The lesson should be taken and acted accordingly.

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October 07, 2017, 09:21:26 PM
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I am down almost 50% now ... I hope the team gets their shit together, come up with a technical solution and list this token on Binance.
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October 07, 2017, 11:21:24 PM
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I'm interested in running a masternode. The minimum tokens required are 5000 TNT, but I read that it is subject to change... Should I wait or is it a good time to enter?  Undecided
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October 07, 2017, 11:35:06 PM
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price will continue to sink for sure until team comes up with real solution for the nodes and let investors utilize unlimited number of nodes.



The price in the short time was 4 times higher. Those who did not sell could have regretted it. but I still believe that it will rise. The lesson should be taken and acted accordingly.

Yes. Nothing happens with this coin.
I took my loss, and moved on something better.
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October 08, 2017, 01:07:56 AM
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is this scam? everyday price dumps
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October 08, 2017, 03:00:18 AM
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is this scam? everyday price dumps

That's like saying, "Is a hurricane coming? It rains a lot here".
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