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Question: If you admit to downloading naked pictures of underage girls, do you deserve negative trust?  (Voting closed: July 21, 2017, 07:26:48 AM)
Yes - it is wrong - 15 (83.3%)
No - everyone does it - 3 (16.7%)
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July 18, 2017, 07:26:48 AM
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Most guys download porn.

However, if you admit you download naked pictures of 16 year old girls because "everyone does it", shouldn't you get negative trust?

A user on this forum has recently admitted for the second time to downloading pictures of underage girls.

He thinks it is legal because the age of consent in Canada is 16 and he lives on a reservation where he feels police cannot touch him.


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Was Jerry Seinfeld and George Castanza pedo's for checking out that 16 yr old's cleavage ?
You know the chick that married Charlie Sheen..
The show was about looking at the teens boobs.
It made them pedo's ?
Of course not.. we're gonna look.

You'll notice I didn't make this post self-moderated... post what you like within the forum rules.  Smiley

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July 18, 2017, 07:28:39 AM
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I would personally not trust anybody who downloads CP.... So yes, i think it's ok to give red trust... Altough you should be sure the user in question isn't just trolling...

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July 18, 2017, 07:32:30 AM
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I would personally not trust anybody who downloads CP.... So yes, i think it's ok to give red trust... Altough you should be sure the user in question isn't just trolling...

In his case, you can review his past posts where he is basically anti-society and doesn't really care what anyone else thinks.

If he is trolling, he's been doing it for many years. 

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July 18, 2017, 07:41:55 AM
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I know what are you hinting at : P
To be honest,it's subjective.What if the person is very trusted and has done deals over 100's of bitcoins without messing anything up ? That is still trusted right ? Whatever he does outside of the forum/bitcoins/trades shouldn't really matter I guess.Yes,that doesn't mean I appreciate that behavior.I could use the trusted professional as a escrow but never beyond that because of morals obviously.Let's put it this way,I can't be friends with him or even contact them outside of the forum but as long as them being an escrow is concerned,I could still use them considering their record of past successful trades.About the feedback,well,you know it better!Anyone is free to leave any feedback's since it isn't moderated.

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July 18, 2017, 10:12:24 AM
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I think negative/red trust is too much even though i think Child Porn is illegal, neutral trust trust should be ok if the seller didn't scam user or give bad/infected files.
Also, it's not like he/she will stop watch/collect/sell/share Child Porn after got negative/red trust.

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July 18, 2017, 10:53:26 AM
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I wouldn't deal with such a person nor communicate with him. If I get a bad impression about a person, it doesn't matter if he's trusted or not but this forum doesn't run on emotions or personal opinions and so goes for the trust system. Till they person doesn't send indecent pms/sends threats, promote/sell illegal things on the forum, I don't feel a negative trust could be considered valid. Till now NSFW is not banned here.

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July 18, 2017, 11:12:20 AM
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Vod , i don't think you/one should put a negative trust on someone just because he downloads child porn. This forum is just for BTC related talks so he should not be given a negative feedback for anything else than former related issues. In oneway or the other we all are indulge in some sort of social shit and are continuing to do so, if all that matter then we should involve spirituality , Morality , Human Values ..etc here to judge player.

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July 18, 2017, 02:40:49 PM
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Most guys download porn.

However, if you admit you download naked pictures of 16 year old girls because "everyone does it", shouldn't you get negative trust?

A user on this forum has recently admitted for the second time to downloading pictures of underage girls.

He thinks it is legal because the age of consent in Canada is 16 and he lives on a reservation where he feels police cannot touch him.


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Was Jerry Seinfeld and George Castanza pedo's for checking out that 16 yr old's cleavage ?
You know the chick that married Charlie Sheen..
The show was about looking at the teens boobs.
It made them pedo's ?
Of course not.. we're gonna look.

You'll notice I didn't make this post self-moderated... post what you like within the forum rules.  Smiley

Seen the title and didn't want to look, but you are asking for opinions so here goes.

I think the Poll should be yes no and banned
Underage CP doesn't belong on this forum!  Heck I don't even feel comfortable saying it.  Because CP is the easiest way to get this forum shut down!  Ya there's carding scammers and even the fake passport guy.  But CP? That's a whole other ball game  Undecided

I'm not familiar with Canadian law.  I can tell you US law doesn't matter if you are on a reservation or not, FEDERAL law trumps.

IF you add "banned" I would click banned, there is no yes/no for me on CP, so I cannot vote.  If there is downloading/sharing/discussion, etc of that here, I suggest letting the owner know.

Obviously, the same title exists and relates to the thread below. 

So i had this happen to me here.
I am curious what you all think.

First off let me explain that Torrent sites 99.99% post "ripped" content.
So what that means is the torrents are all sourced from commercial sources.
Which means they all have their age verified with picture ID and have blood tests.
They do ..because it's the law.

Then it boils down to what site you might be getting them from.
For example i got a negative rating here because of downloading from RarBG.
And that site *ONLY* posts verified commercial sourced torrents.
It also does not contain ANY child porn or other illegal types of porn either.

So ?

Should a guy here get a negative rating for admitting he downloaded porn ?
No ?
Well it sure as hell happened to me.

And the guy who did it has been trolling me for a year over it too calling me a pedophile.
Which is funny because i posted a link proving he was *possibly* one FIRST.
Oh and coincidentally the neg rating reference link he used was on a topic i made about piracy..
One of two i created where he showed up trolling me and arguing that "PIRACY IS WRONG"

..this is the type of bullshit i have to deal with here every day  Roll Eyes

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July 18, 2017, 06:37:25 PM
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Spoetnik"The user in question" has done a variety of moderately shady things as well.

He claims to have received a PM from the account "Spoetnik[TheUserInQuestion]IsFucked", but if you do a search under Members, the account doesn't seem to exist (I don't think there's a way to delete a forum account, unless the OP contacted an admin).

He also values his account rank far too much.  Whenever talking to a newbie, he refers to them as NOOB and ignores any arguments that they make.  So any claims that removing his negative trust would be opposition to hierarchy is bullshit.
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Conclusion: Negative trust should not be given.
That's the fucking worst comparison I've ever seen.  Child porn is TERRIBLE.  It is a moral ABOMINATION.  People who listen to rock music can have any moral values and it's COMPLETELY unrelated.

However, I haven't seen Spoetnikthe user in question directly admit to downloading child porn.  I've seen him condoning being perverts to underage girls, which in my opinion does warrant negative trust, but I still can't see him openly admitting it.  Also, your quotes seem to be a tad out of context and strung together in that fashion.
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July 18, 2017, 08:00:31 PM
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Age of consent is 16 in the UK and if it's 16 in Canada then I don't think it's warranted. However, if he was downloading actual child porn then that would be different.

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July 18, 2017, 08:22:43 PM
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I think the desire to view child pornoigraphy, which society views as wrong, comes from an upbringing where your idiot parents don't care about how you are raised.

The person in question asked me to come visit him and he would take care of me, so I asked him for his address.  His response was quick:

Quote from: xxx link=action=profile;u=xxx date=1500361433
You picked the wrong guy to fuck with arrogant little bitch.

By the way i have family a couple miles away who are patched Hell's Angels.
Want to come to my town and talk shit about being a pedo ?
My parents were bank robbers buddy LOL

You don't who you are dealing with.
People who say shit like that get beat to death.

Idiot parents who rob banks, care little about their kid - it's no wonder he will seek any kind of attention, esp illegal activities which garner the most attention.  :/

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Lol. Sounds like this guy:

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Age of consent is 16 in the UK and if it's 16 in Canada then I don't think it's warranted.
The age of consent to produce pornography is 18, because of how 16 year olds could be manipulated or pressured into it and the fact that other work is more readily available to adults.  Under that age is considered child porn, and I think that's the relevant age here rather than the age of consent for sex.  However, I still can't see the user directly saying that he downloaded child porn.
i think Child Porn is illegal
Well done.  You're a fucking genius.
Also, it's not like he/she will stop watch/collect/sell/share Child Porn after got negative/red trust.
If the person is a paedophile, you should not help them by doing trade deals with them.  That sort of scum is not to be trusted.
 
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Short answer: Yes.


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July 19, 2017, 02:56:12 PM
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16 is not a child and has nothing to do with pedophilia. Paedophilia concerns prepubescent children.

Now, posting/sharing sexual pictures of 16 yo might still be illegal and should be avoided on a public forum. Even though you might have the right to have sex with her. Privacy is something important, Bitcoiners should understand this.

Merely talking about it, I'm not offended.

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July 19, 2017, 04:34:08 PM
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I assume that this thread is regarding Spoetnik. It is my understanding that he is disputing that what he was downloading is Child Porn, so your thread is very misleading, as usual.

Obviously downloading, sharing, etc., child porn is absolutely not okay. If someone is disputing the charge, then they deserve due process, and proof needs to be presented beyond a reasonable doubt (BadBear used to use the threshold "beyond any doubt").

It is my understanding and belief that Martin Lawrence is a pedophile.

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July 19, 2017, 06:14:00 PM
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Obviously downloading, sharing, etc., child porn is absolutely not okay. If someone is disputing the charge, then they deserve due process, and proof needs to be presented beyond a reasonable doubt (BadBear used to use the threshold "beyond any doubt").

It is my understanding and belief that Martin Lawrence is a pedophile.

There is the standard hypocrite again.  Where is your proof beyond a reasonable doubt?   Cheesy

It is my belief that Quickseller is a pedophile, using the same proof he has.  You perverts sure like to stick together.  :/

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July 19, 2017, 07:02:52 PM
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Well, for sure no one should receive this type of trust thinking at the fact that this is a bitcoin forum, not a opinion's forum. Berlusconi was having sex with underage girls and he was still elected.

Also the answers at your question is totally wrong for example the negative answer: No - everyone does it. It is too radical

The priests are abusing thousands of kids every year and the priest is still one of the most respected guy in the community.

If the girls are over an specific age like 14-16 and they signed an agreement that their pictures may be posted online and maybe if the parents were ok with that, who re you to blame this user ur talking about?

For example, in my country there was a fashion reality show Next Model or something like this. There were even challenges to make nude pictures, there were even underage girls and these girls appeared on a National TV channel.

If I blo8i, I am breaking up with my girlfriend and  I post pictures with her without her approval, there is a situation of me going to jail.

For example my brother did in march this year the beutiful age of 18 yrs old.

Between Octomber 2016-End of March 2017 he and his highschool friends shared inside of a facebook messenger group pictures with their girlfriends/random girls from highschool they had sex online.

I saw this group and judged him 2-3 times but he didn't stopped. More interesting facts. There were arround ~60 people on this group with arround ~4000 pictures shared. Most of the girls knew that there pictures are there but no one said anything. Some of them wanted to be "famous" inside of their personal life and some of them just afraid to say anything.

The group was created by a 14 yrs girl, her "nickname" was The Fish.

To conclude: this story finished drastic that at the end of March the police arrived brutally at our houses at 6 am, took all the drivers, usbs, phones, mostly all the possible storages, still having 14 btc at police, from the house and they arrested my brother + another 40 actions in the same time.

But at most of this periode he was underage too. Now he is expecting to do between 1-3 yrs in jail.

So...yep


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July 19, 2017, 07:06:45 PM
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Thank you for your input blo8i.  The fact is, these pedophiles read an anonymous extortion attempt online (the kind Quickseller likes), they believe I am a pedo, so they send me emails asking to exchange pics.  Once I tell them to fuck off, they come on here and call me a pedophile.   Shocked

So far, I can confirm that Spoetnik and Quickseller are pedophiles, both based on what I have read online.  :/   I have a feeling this thread will attract other pedophiles, so I'm thinking of locking it if it goes much further off topic.

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July 19, 2017, 10:24:01 PM
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I have decided to lock this thread - I'm going to a Bob Dylan concert in a couple hours, and I don't want to be bothered with it.

Now that Quickseller has decided to post more lies, one thing comes to mind:

Never argue with an idiot, as people watching may not be able to tell the difference.

Based on the poll, the vast majority of people think downloading child porn deserves red trust.  Obviously, the only people to vote yes would be the ones who already do it - spoetnik and quickseller  SORRY GUYS, but sending me an email asking for pictures won't get you anywhere.  I have none.


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