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June 28, 2013, 01:20:06 AM |
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Dear sir, How do i go about installing the 12.6's SDK when the SDK's are "built in" to the 13.x drivers :S Also I doubt this is the issue due to the factor that my Working drivers (12. ![Cool](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cool.gif) use SDK 2.8 wich is the same that the 13.x's use yo, man! : D 1) SDK = Software Development Kit, it has nothing to do with the runtime.. well ofc, why would anyone need SDK without the runtime?))) long story short.. SDK is not built-in in the driver, neither is the runtime(lower than 13.4, in 13.4 runtime is indeed built-in.. installation process is, to be precise) 2) Almost each version of ATI driver has different OpenCL runtime bundled - http://www.hal6000.com/seti/boinc_ati_gpu_cheat_sheet.htm3) OpenCL runtime is located in \AMD\Support\12-6_vista_win7_64_dd_ccc_whql\Packages\Apps\OpenCL64\OpenCL.msi I am stuck on 12.8 drivers, I can't fnd newer drivers that I can Mine While Gaming on From this I've assumed u need newer drivers for gaming, but u can't mine with newer drivers.. So, my idea was - why not to use new drivers and old opencl?
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June 28, 2013, 01:24:48 AM |
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Dear sir, How do i go about installing the 12.6's SDK when the SDK's are "built in" to the 13.x drivers :S Also I doubt this is the issue due to the factor that my Working drivers (12. ![Cool](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cool.gif) use SDK 2.8 wich is the same that the 13.x's use yo, man! : D 1) SDK = Software Development Kit, it has nothing to do with the runtime.. well ofc, why would anyone need SDK without the runtime?))) long story short.. SDK is not built-in in the driver, neither is the runtime(lower than 13.4, in 13.4 runtime is indeed built-in.. installation process is, to be precise) 2) Almost each version of ATI driver has different OpenCL runtime bundled - http://www.hal6000.com/seti/boinc_ati_gpu_cheat_sheet.htm3) OpenCL runtime is located in \AMD\Support\12-6_vista_win7_64_dd_ccc_whql\Packages\Apps\OpenCL64\OpenCL.msi I am stuck on 12.8 drivers, I can't fnd newer drivers that I can Mine While Gaming on From this I've assumed u need newer drivers for gaming, but u can't mine with newer drivers.. So, my idea was - why not to use new drivers and old opencl? Well my good aquantence, That would be because i have have Difficulties installing an Old SDK with newer drivers (the factor that the SDK is built into the newer installations really fks me) So, I suppose what i shall do is: Install the newer drivers (reboot if neccessary) Uninstall the SDK (reboot if neccessary) Goto \amd\supp\12-8blahblahblah and install the Old openCL files that are within this said folder that should still exsist? Sound about right? Heres a bit of a problem though, When i goto install 13.6beta2, It calims that the SDK is already installed and UP TO DATE. Wouldnt that imply that im Running on SDK 2.8? with display driver 12.8?? I just checked, My SDK version is 10.0.938.2 Wich is a 2.7 SDK..... So what now? when I try to install cat 13.6 and it tells me that it doesnt need to install SDK, and that its uptodate
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June 28, 2013, 01:32:44 AM |
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I'd rather 0) disable windows to install drivers from auto-update(Control Panel->System->Advanced System Settings->Hardware->Windows Update Driver Settings) 1) run amd_cleanup_util_1.2.1.0.exe and reboot 2) install driver manually, c.panel->system->device manager->ur gpu->right click->update->browse->pick from a list->have disk-> \AMD\Support\12-6_vista_win7_64_dd_ccc_whql\Packages\Drivers\Display\W76A_INF\->ok 3) launch GPU-Z and verify that there is no OpenCL ticked 4) install OpenCL
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June 28, 2013, 01:36:04 AM |
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I'd rather 0) disable windows to install drivers from auto-update(Control Panel->System->Advanced System Settings->Hardware->Windows Update Driver Settings) 1) run amd_cleanup_util_1.2.1.0.exe and reboot 2) install driver manually, c.panel->system->device manager->ur gpu->right click->update->browse->pick from a list->have disk-> \AMD\Support\12-6_vista_win7_64_dd_ccc_whql\Packages\Drivers\Display\W76A_INF\->ok 3) launch GPU-Z and verify that there is no OpenCL ticked 4) install OpenCL
On step 4, Install from where? the 12.8 setup? or the 12.8's setup files? Also the AMD folder you specified shouldnt exsist after the AMD_cleanup_ultility is done gutting the drivers off the system... Should it?
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June 28, 2013, 01:36:42 AM |
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I'd rather 0) disable windows to install drivers from auto-update(Control Panel->System->Advanced System Settings->Hardware->Windows Update Driver Settings) 1) run amd_cleanup_util_1.2.1.0.exe and reboot 2) install driver manually, c.panel->system->device manager->ur gpu->right click->update->browse->pick from a list->have disk-> \AMD\Support\12-6_vista_win7_64_dd_ccc_whql\Packages\Drivers\Display\W76A_INF\->ok 3) launch GPU-Z and verify that there is no OpenCL ticked 4) install OpenCL
On step 4, Install from where? the 12.8 setup? or the 12.8's setup files? \AMD\Support\12-6_vista_win7_64_dd_ccc_whql\Packages\Apps\OpenCL64\OpenCL.msi
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June 28, 2013, 01:39:03 AM |
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I'd rather 0) disable windows to install drivers from auto-update(Control Panel->System->Advanced System Settings->Hardware->Windows Update Driver Settings) 1) run amd_cleanup_util_1.2.1.0.exe and reboot 2) install driver manually, c.panel->system->device manager->ur gpu->right click->update->browse->pick from a list->have disk-> \AMD\Support\12-6_vista_win7_64_dd_ccc_whql\Packages\Drivers\Display\W76A_INF\->ok 3) launch GPU-Z and verify that there is no OpenCL ticked 4) install OpenCL
On step 4, Install from where? the 12.8 setup? or the 12.8's setup files? \AMD\Support\12-6_vista_win7_64_dd_ccc_whql\Packages\Apps\OpenCL64\OpenCL.msi Running the Cleanup Now!
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June 28, 2013, 01:43:24 AM |
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Might be a good idea to run CCleaner after u finish with AMD cleanup.
Also, u might want to check if exists and delete following - "Program Files (x86)/AMD APP" Windows/System32(+SysWOW64)/OpenCL*.* I usually also delete amd*.* and ati*.* - but this can cause issues if system has some other AMD/ATI hardware.
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June 28, 2013, 01:45:25 AM |
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Btw, if after cleanup Windows still will detect "AMD Radeon" video card, then either Windows is using update or amd cleanup util screwed up. In this case go to device manager and uninstall the driver manually and tick "delete driver files"
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June 28, 2013, 01:52:43 AM |
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So im here after rebooting, And im just noticing that now SDK's are not even freaking mentioned in either the 13.4 or 13.6 driver setup files. Where is it hidden in? I'd like to have the CCC installed so that i can control desktop colour/gamma/contrast/brightness
Im currently installing 13.6 display driver via device manager
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June 28, 2013, 01:57:13 AM |
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So im here after rebooting, And im just noticing that now SDK's are not even freaking mentioned in either the 13.4 or 13.6 driver setup files. Where is it hidden in? I'd like to have the CCC installed so that i can control desktop colour/gamma/contrast/brightness
Please stop calling it SDK ; ) And, as I've mentioned earlier, starting from 13.4 it is embedded in the driver, so the files are in AMD\Support\13-4_win7_win8_64_dd_ccc_whql\Packages\Drivers\Display\W86A_INF\B155215\ but there is no msi installer, so u can't install it manually(without some mess).
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June 28, 2013, 01:59:28 AM |
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I'd like to have the CCC installed so that i can control desktop colour/gamma/contrast/brightness
Hm. This requirement changes things a lot. Lets first check if you will be able to play and mine without Catalyst and then figure out how to make it with Catalyst or find a way to control colour/gamma/constast without Catalyst, ok?
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June 28, 2013, 02:04:16 AM |
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I'd like to have the CCC installed so that i can control desktop colour/gamma/contrast/brightness
Hm. This requirement changes things a lot. Lets first check if you will be able to play and mine without Catalyst and then figure out how to make it with Catalyst or find a way to control colour/gamma/constast without Catalyst, ok? Sounds good to me. Im back after installing the 13.6 DISPLAY DRIVER via Device manager->browse and GPU-Z shows that OpenCL is ticked. It was not ticked when it drivers were "cleaned up" Fucking hell even CGminer is running.........., Yes it was labeld as "standard VGA device" when i went to install it's display driver
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June 28, 2013, 02:06:48 AM |
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I'd like to have the CCC installed so that i can control desktop colour/gamma/contrast/brightness
Hm. This requirement changes things a lot. Lets first check if you will be able to play and mine without Catalyst and then figure out how to make it with Catalyst or find a way to control colour/gamma/constast without Catalyst, ok? Sounds good to me. Im back after installing the 13.6 DISPLAY DRIVER via Device manager->browse and GPU-Z shows that OpenCL is ticked. It was not ticked when it drivers were "cleaned up" This means that 13.4+ even with manual install it installs OpenCL anyway.. not good. Ok. Can you launch cgminer, check runtime version, install older OpenCL and check version in cgminer again?
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June 28, 2013, 02:08:17 AM |
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I sense manual removal of Opencl )))
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June 28, 2013, 02:11:54 AM |
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I sense manual removal of Opencl )))
Gonna do that... Meow... Just tested the current installation, and computer is acting "sticky" and mining crashes while gaming. Gonna delete the OpenCL.dll files... Make SURE that they are gone, Then try to run the 12.8 installer for it's SDK
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June 28, 2013, 02:12:41 AM |
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I sense manual removal of Opencl )))
Gonna do that... Meow... Just tested the current installation, and computer is acting "sticky" and mining crashes while gaming. Gonna delete the OpenCL.dll files... Make SURE that they are gone, Then try to run the 12.8 installer for it's SDK w8, dont run any installer yet ; )
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June 28, 2013, 02:17:21 AM |
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Ok, so unpacked OpenCL.msi from 13.1 driver looks like this -
"/program files/AMD APP/bin/x86_64/" amdocl_as.exe amdocl_ld.exe
"/System32/" amdocl.dll OpenCL.dll OpenVideo.dll OVDecode.dll SlotMaximizerAg.dll SlotMaximizerBe.dll
"/System64/" amdocl64.dll OpenCL.dll OpenVideo64.dll OVDecode64.dll SlotMaximizerAg.dll SlotMaximizerBe.dll clinfo.exe
So.. find them and delete them. After deleting run Ccleaner -> Registry, run it several times until it won't find any 'issues', this will de-register OpenCL from Windows. To confirm, run GPU-Z, it should launch and report no OpenCL installed.
Now you can install the 'old' OpenCL.
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June 28, 2013, 02:19:51 AM |
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+in "\AMD\AMD_Catalyst_13.6_Beta2\Packages\Drivers\Display\W86A_INF\B157935\" directory I've also found
amd_opencl32.dll amd_opencl64.dll
but I bet it's just renamed OpenCL.dll anyway if you notice them somewhere(System32/Syswow64 probably) - delete them also.
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June 28, 2013, 02:23:29 AM |
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+in "\AMD\AMD_Catalyst_13.6_Beta2\Packages\Drivers\Display\W86A_INF\B157935\" directory I've also found
amd_opencl32.dll amd_opencl64.dll
but I bet it's just renamed OpenCL.dll anyway if you notice them somewhere(System32/Syswow64 probably) - delete them also.
Yuppers, Also, I THINK WE HAVE A WINNER!, Please post your BTC addr, I will send them by tommorrow after i have done a 12 hour test, Right meow i am gaming and mining happily. You seemed to have solved my issue THANKYOU SO VERYMUCH
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June 28, 2013, 02:26:03 AM |
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+in "\AMD\AMD_Catalyst_13.6_Beta2\Packages\Drivers\Display\W86A_INF\B157935\" directory I've also found
amd_opencl32.dll amd_opencl64.dll
but I bet it's just renamed OpenCL.dll anyway if you notice them somewhere(System32/Syswow64 probably) - delete them also.
Yuppers, Also, I THINK WE HAVE A WINNER!, Please post your BTC addr, I will send them by tommorrow after i have done a 12 hour test, Right meow i am gaming and mining happily. You seemed to have solved my issue THANKYOU SO VERYMUCH hey, w8, so.. what was the solution? : D U've deleted OpenCL installed automatically with the 13.6 driver and then installed older OpenCL, right? My BTC addr. is in my sig.
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