Paying .05btc for Good 7950 drivers/working settings (ReOPEN!!)

[lbr]

Dear sir, How do i go about installing the 12.6's SDK when the SDK's are "built in" to the 13.x drivers :S
Also I doubt this is the issue due to the factor that my Working drivers (12. use SDK 2.8 wich is the same that the 13.x's use

yo, man! : D

1) SDK = Software Development Kit, it has nothing to do with the runtime.. well ofc, why would anyone need SDK without the runtime?)))
long story short.. SDK is not built-in in the driver, neither is the runtime(lower than 13.4, in 13.4 runtime is indeed built-in.. installation process is, to be precise)

2) Almost each version of ATI driver has different OpenCL runtime bundled - http://www.hal6000.com/seti/boinc_ati_gpu_cheat_sheet.htm

3) OpenCL runtime is located in \AMD\Support\12-6_vista_win7_64_dd_ccc_whql\Packages\Apps\OpenCL64\OpenCL.msi

I am stuck on 12.8 drivers, I can't fnd newer drivers that I can Mine While Gaming on

From this I've assumed u need newer drivers for gaming, but u can't mine with newer drivers..
So, my idea was - why not to use new drivers and old opencl?

[Fiyasko]

Dear sir, How do i go about installing the 12.6's SDK when the SDK's are "built in" to the 13.x drivers :S
Also I doubt this is the issue due to the factor that my Working drivers (12. use SDK 2.8 wich is the same that the 13.x's use

yo, man! : D

1) SDK = Software Development Kit, it has nothing to do with the runtime.. well ofc, why would anyone need SDK without the runtime?)))
long story short.. SDK is not built-in in the driver, neither is the runtime(lower than 13.4, in 13.4 runtime is indeed built-in.. installation process is, to be precise)

2) Almost each version of ATI driver has different OpenCL runtime bundled - http://www.hal6000.com/seti/boinc_ati_gpu_cheat_sheet.htm

3) OpenCL runtime is located in \AMD\Support\12-6_vista_win7_64_dd_ccc_whql\Packages\Apps\OpenCL64\OpenCL.msi

I am stuck on 12.8 drivers, I can't fnd newer drivers that I can Mine While Gaming on

From this I've assumed u need newer drivers for gaming, but u can't mine with newer drivers..
So, my idea was - why not to use new drivers and old opencl?

Well my good aquantence, That would be because i have have Difficulties installing an Old SDK with newer drivers (the factor that the SDK is built into the newer installations really fks me)
So, I suppose what i shall do is:
Install the newer drivers (reboot if neccessary)
Uninstall the SDK (reboot if neccessary)
Goto \amd\supp\12-8blahblahblah and install the Old openCL files that are within this said folder that should still exsist?

Sound about right?

Heres a bit of a problem though, When i goto install 13.6beta2, It calims that the SDK is already installed and UP TO DATE. Wouldnt that imply that im Running on SDK 2.8? with display driver 12.8??

I just checked, My SDK version is 10.0.938.2 Wich is a 2.7 SDK..... So what now? when I try to install cat 13.6 and it tells me that it doesnt need to install SDK, and that its uptodate

[lbr]

I'd rather
0) disable windows to install drivers from auto-update(Control Panel->System->Advanced System Settings->Hardware->Windows Update Driver Settings)
1) run amd_cleanup_util_1.2.1.0.exe and reboot
2) install driver manually, c.panel->system->device manager->ur gpu->right click->update->browse->pick from a list->have disk-> \AMD\Support\12-6_vista_win7_64_dd_ccc_whql\Packages\Drivers\Display\W76A_INF\->ok
3) launch GPU-Z and verify that there is no OpenCL ticked
4) install OpenCL

[Fiyasko]

I'd rather
0) disable windows to install drivers from auto-update(Control Panel->System->Advanced System Settings->Hardware->Windows Update Driver Settings)
1) run amd_cleanup_util_1.2.1.0.exe and reboot
2) install driver manually, c.panel->system->device manager->ur gpu->right click->update->browse->pick from a list->have disk-> \AMD\Support\12-6_vista_win7_64_dd_ccc_whql\Packages\Drivers\Display\W76A_INF\->ok
3) launch GPU-Z and verify that there is no OpenCL ticked
4) install OpenCL

On step 4, Install from where? the 12.8 setup? or the 12.8's setup files?
Also the AMD folder you specified shouldnt exsist after the AMD_cleanup_ultility is done gutting the drivers off the system... Should it?

[lbr]

I'd rather
0) disable windows to install drivers from auto-update(Control Panel->System->Advanced System Settings->Hardware->Windows Update Driver Settings)
1) run amd_cleanup_util_1.2.1.0.exe and reboot
2) install driver manually, c.panel->system->device manager->ur gpu->right click->update->browse->pick from a list->have disk-> \AMD\Support\12-6_vista_win7_64_dd_ccc_whql\Packages\Drivers\Display\W76A_INF\->ok
3) launch GPU-Z and verify that there is no OpenCL ticked
4) install OpenCL

On step 4, Install from where? the 12.8 setup? or the 12.8's setup files?

\AMD\Support\12-6_vista_win7_64_dd_ccc_whql\Packages\Apps\OpenCL64\OpenCL.msi

[Fiyasko]

I'd rather
0) disable windows to install drivers from auto-update(Control Panel->System->Advanced System Settings->Hardware->Windows Update Driver Settings)
1) run amd_cleanup_util_1.2.1.0.exe and reboot
2) install driver manually, c.panel->system->device manager->ur gpu->right click->update->browse->pick from a list->have disk-> \AMD\Support\12-6_vista_win7_64_dd_ccc_whql\Packages\Drivers\Display\W76A_INF\->ok
3) launch GPU-Z and verify that there is no OpenCL ticked
4) install OpenCL

On step 4, Install from where? the 12.8 setup? or the 12.8's setup files?

\AMD\Support\12-6_vista_win7_64_dd_ccc_whql\Packages\Apps\OpenCL64\OpenCL.msi

Running the Cleanup Now!

[lbr]

Might be a good idea to run CCleaner after u finish with AMD cleanup.

Also, u might want to check if exists and delete following -
"Program Files (x86)/AMD APP"
Windows/System32(+SysWOW64)/OpenCL*.*
I usually also delete amd*.* and ati*.* - but this can cause issues if system has some other AMD/ATI hardware.

[lbr]

Btw, if after cleanup Windows still will detect "AMD Radeon" video card, then either Windows is using update or amd cleanup util screwed up.
In this case go to device manager and uninstall the driver manually and tick "delete driver files"

[Fiyasko]

So im here after rebooting, And im just noticing that now SDK's are not even freaking mentioned in either the 13.4 or 13.6 driver setup files. Where is it hidden in? I'd like to have the CCC installed so that i can control desktop colour/gamma/contrast/brightness

Im currently installing 13.6 display driver via device manager

[lbr]

So im here after rebooting, And im just noticing that now SDK's are not even freaking mentioned in either the 13.4 or 13.6 driver setup files. Where is it hidden in? I'd like to have the CCC installed so that i can control desktop colour/gamma/contrast/brightness

Please stop calling it SDK ; )
And, as I've mentioned earlier, starting from 13.4 it is embedded in the driver, so the files are in
AMD\Support\13-4_win7_win8_64_dd_ccc_whql\Packages\Drivers\Display\W86A_INF\B155215\
but there is no msi installer, so u can't install it manually(without some mess).

[lbr]

I'd like to have the CCC installed so that i can control desktop colour/gamma/contrast/brightness

Hm. This requirement changes things a lot.
Lets first check if you will be able to play and mine without Catalyst and then figure out how to make it with Catalyst or find a way to control colour/gamma/constast without Catalyst, ok?

[Fiyasko]

I'd like to have the CCC installed so that i can control desktop colour/gamma/contrast/brightness

Hm. This requirement changes things a lot.
Lets first check if you will be able to play and mine without Catalyst and then figure out how to make it with Catalyst or find a way to control colour/gamma/constast without Catalyst, ok?

Sounds good to me.
Im back after installing the 13.6 DISPLAY DRIVER via Device manager->browse and GPU-Z shows that OpenCL is ticked. It was not ticked when it drivers were "cleaned up"

Fucking hell even CGminer is running.........., Yes it was labeld as "standard VGA device" when i went to install it's display driver

[lbr]

I'd like to have the CCC installed so that i can control desktop colour/gamma/contrast/brightness

Hm. This requirement changes things a lot.
Lets first check if you will be able to play and mine without Catalyst and then figure out how to make it with Catalyst or find a way to control colour/gamma/constast without Catalyst, ok?

Sounds good to me.
Im back after installing the 13.6 DISPLAY DRIVER via Device manager->browse and GPU-Z shows that OpenCL is ticked. It was not ticked when it drivers were "cleaned up"

This means that 13.4+ even with manual install it installs OpenCL anyway.. not good.
Ok. Can you launch cgminer, check runtime version, install older OpenCL and check version in cgminer again?

[lbr]

I sense manual removal of Opencl )))

[Fiyasko]

I sense manual removal of Opencl )))

Gonna do that... Meow...
Just tested the current installation, and computer is acting "sticky" and mining crashes while gaming.
Gonna delete the OpenCL.dll files... Make SURE that they are gone, Then try to run the 12.8 installer for it's SDK

[lbr]

I sense manual removal of Opencl )))

Gonna do that... Meow...
Just tested the current installation, and computer is acting "sticky" and mining crashes while gaming.
Gonna delete the OpenCL.dll files... Make SURE that they are gone, Then try to run the 12.8 installer for it's SDK

w8, dont run any installer yet ; )

[lbr]

Ok, so unpacked OpenCL.msi from 13.1 driver looks like this -

"/program files/AMD APP/bin/x86_64/"
amdocl_as.exe
amdocl_ld.exe

"/System32/"
amdocl.dll
OpenCL.dll
OpenVideo.dll
OVDecode.dll
SlotMaximizerAg.dll
SlotMaximizerBe.dll

"/System64/"
amdocl64.dll
OpenCL.dll
OpenVideo64.dll
OVDecode64.dll
SlotMaximizerAg.dll
SlotMaximizerBe.dll
clinfo.exe


So.. find them and delete them.
After deleting run Ccleaner -> Registry, run it several times until it won't find any 'issues', this will de-register OpenCL from Windows.
To confirm, run GPU-Z, it should launch and report no OpenCL installed.

Now you can install the 'old' OpenCL.

[lbr]

+in "\AMD\AMD_Catalyst_13.6_Beta2\Packages\Drivers\Display\W86A_INF\B157935\" directory I've also found

amd_opencl32.dll
amd_opencl64.dll

but I bet it's just renamed OpenCL.dll
anyway if you notice them somewhere(System32/Syswow64 probably) - delete them also.

[Fiyasko]

+in "\AMD\AMD_Catalyst_13.6_Beta2\Packages\Drivers\Display\W86A_INF\B157935\" directory I've also found

amd_opencl32.dll
amd_opencl64.dll

but I bet it's just renamed OpenCL.dll
anyway if you notice them somewhere(System32/Syswow64 probably) - delete them also.

Yuppers, Also, I THINK WE HAVE A WINNER!, Please post your BTC addr, I will send them by tommorrow after i have done a 12 hour test, Right meow i am gaming and mining happily.
You seemed to have solved my issue

THANKYOU SO VERYMUCH

[lbr]

+in "\AMD\AMD_Catalyst_13.6_Beta2\Packages\Drivers\Display\W86A_INF\B157935\" directory I've also found

amd_opencl32.dll
amd_opencl64.dll

but I bet it's just renamed OpenCL.dll
anyway if you notice them somewhere(System32/Syswow64 probably) - delete them also.

Yuppers, Also, I THINK WE HAVE A WINNER!, Please post your BTC addr, I will send them by tommorrow after i have done a 12 hour test, Right meow i am gaming and mining happily.
You seemed to have solved my issue

THANKYOU SO VERYMUCH

hey, w8, so.. what was the solution? : D
U've deleted OpenCL installed automatically with the 13.6 driver and then installed older OpenCL, right?

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