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June 21, 2011, 01:57:46 AM
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This is potentially a 5-10m heist.  No one knows what's going on. 

This should open up lawsuits and criminal proceedings.  We don't know if MtGox stole it or what his intentions were.  We don't know ANYTHING.

You guys are blind religious fanatics for trusting this idiot.  I hope he contacts the FBI.  He's at least negligent and worst, a criminal.
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June 21, 2011, 02:00:06 AM
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This is potentially a 5-10m heist.  No one knows what's going on. 

This should open up lawsuits and criminal proceedings.  We don't know if MtGox stole it or what his intentions were.  We don't know ANYTHING.

You guys are blind religious fanatics for trusting this idiot.  I hope he contacts the FBI.  He's at least negligent and worst, a criminal.

We already have criminal proceedings in process against whoever did the hack.

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June 21, 2011, 02:01:31 AM
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Criminal proceedings in what country? Japan?
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June 21, 2011, 02:02:35 AM
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This is potentially a 5-10m heist.  No one knows what's going on. 

This should open up lawsuits and criminal proceedings.  We don't know if MtGox stole it or what his intentions were.  We don't know ANYTHING.

You guys are blind religious fanatics for trusting this idiot.  I hope he contacts the FBI.  He's at least negligent and worst, a criminal.

We already have criminal proceedings in process against whoever did the hack.
LOL.  Can you show proof of anything you say?

How many times have you lied?

You post information regarding users in a public forum?  Seriously?  You should be jailed for the way you handled this.

So you know who the perpetrator was?  Please tell us.  Do you have criminal proceedings against a fake identity?  Who exactly do you have criminal proceedings against?
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June 21, 2011, 02:03:36 AM
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My impression is that Mt. Gox is doing what they can as fast as they can do it. I have no complaints about the way they've handled the situation after the attacks (I do have a complaint about the attack, obviously, but that's past now).

This is potentially a 5-10m heist.  No one knows what's going on.

And we do know know what's doing on to a certain extent. They've released a lot of information on their site, on the forums, and in interviews.
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June 21, 2011, 02:07:40 AM
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It's hilarious that all these hyper-libertarians are running their asses off to get the government involved in private enterprise.  Just call Atlas with his private army.

I guess Kevin owns their paychecks now so they jumped ship.
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June 21, 2011, 02:10:58 AM
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This is potentially a 5-10m heist.  No one knows what's going on. 

This should open up lawsuits and criminal proceedings.  We don't know if MtGox stole it or what his intentions were.  We don't know ANYTHING.

You guys are blind religious fanatics for trusting this idiot.  I hope he contacts the FBI.  He's at least negligent and worst, a criminal.

The troll factor is high today

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June 21, 2011, 02:11:43 AM
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This is potentially a 5-10m heist.  No one knows what's going on. 

This should open up lawsuits and criminal proceedings.  We don't know if MtGox stole it or what his intentions were.  We don't know ANYTHING.

You guys are blind religious fanatics for trusting this idiot.  I hope he contacts the FBI.  He's at least negligent and worst, a criminal.

The troll factor is high today
Religious zealotry?
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June 21, 2011, 02:12:46 AM
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MtGox: Can you post information regarding the "criminal proceedings" you claimed above?
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June 21, 2011, 02:26:33 AM
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Kevin gets thrown to the wolves . . . but the mysterious and heretofore unmentioned "financial auditor" goes unnamed and apparently is above reproach.

MagicalTwinkie's got some splainin to do.
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June 21, 2011, 02:27:23 AM
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MtGox should be jailed.

Kevin should sue MtGox.

You guys are idiots for believing this criminal.  He should not be allowed to follow through with his plan.  There are no rules regarding this action.  The law should guide this decision, not subjective critique.  This needs to be subjected to the scrutiny of the legal system.

I don't understand how you have faith in MtGox to solve this crisis.
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June 21, 2011, 02:29:54 AM
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June 21, 2011, 02:30:35 AM
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This is potentially a 5-10m heist.  No one knows what's going on. 

This should open up lawsuits and criminal proceedings.  We don't know if MtGox stole it or what his intentions were.  We don't know ANYTHING.

You guys are blind religious fanatics for trusting this idiot.  I hope he contacts the FBI.  He's at least negligent and worst, a criminal.

We already have criminal proceedings in process against whoever did the hack.

PPFFFFFFFFFBWAHAHAHAHA

These...IDIOTS...get ahold of a random fucking IP...and now they've got "criminal prceedings" going on.

Unless he means that Kevin guy is the hacker, in which case..


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June 21, 2011, 02:32:46 AM
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Everyone has become so malicious.  The hate that people are typing is revolting.  NO BODY forced anyone to use MtGox!  It was their own fair choice.  Their own fair risk.

I would ask that people give MagicalTux a break... He has been doing a wonderful job considering.   I would ask you also to stop making judgements with no evidence.

However, this forum has become a troll pit.  Where people just say the most hateful and non-productive things, 'just because they can.'

One off NP-Hard.
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June 21, 2011, 02:33:22 AM
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Arresting people serves a purpose.  So that they can post or be denied bail.  In this situation the risk for damage should encourage a judge to deny bail.  The total amount of potential hardship that he can inflict is in the 10m+ dollar range.   If he is allowed bail, all of your money is at risk.  At this point all hardware associated with MtGox should be seized and he should be confined to prison until trial.

People who believe that MtGox should set the rules and become law are delusional religious crackheads.
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June 21, 2011, 02:36:39 AM
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Is it a comics to the whole "that buyer is the hacker [probably] lets kill him now" situation
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June 21, 2011, 02:38:37 AM
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Arresting people serves a purpose.  So that they can post or be denied bail.  In this situation the risk for damage should encourage a judge to deny bail.  The total amount of potential hardship that he can inflict is in the 10m+ dollar range.   If he is allowed bail, all of your money is at risk.  At this point all hardware associated with MtGox should be seized and he should be confined to prison until trial.

People who believe that MtGox should set the rules and become law are delusional religious crackheads.

You are evil.

One off NP-Hard.
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June 21, 2011, 02:40:53 AM
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If you were to compare bitcoins to gold and MtGox to a gold seller/trader.

You have a reasonable expectation when trading your physical gold that it will be kept safe. When there is evidence of theft or inept security you have a warning to be aware and pull your gold out or take the risk.

On one hand kevin has a point. He did buy the bitcoins and they technically belong to him. But for the transaction to really matter it would have to be the owner of the gold to actually be the one selling them.

Kevin can't be held at fault for snapping up bitcoins at 1 cent each other than to say that it wasn't very smart and any rational person would notice that something is going on here that isn't right and he cannot keep it since it is stolen. Kevin should go to MtGox to try and get compensation he thinks he deserves for his time invested in the transaction but he needs to suck up and take his lumps you can't keep stolen goods even if you legally bought them.

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June 21, 2011, 02:42:53 AM
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If the bitcoins were in fact stolen, then you had no legal expectation of keeping them no matter what price you bought them at.  In fact, you're lucky you are getting a roll-back rather than losing your investment completely.  If a cop found you in possession of a stolen vehicle that you got off of E-Bay, it won't matter that you paid for it.  They'll take it from you and give it back to the rightful owner.  It would then be your responsibility to go after the person who sold it to you.

Having said that, we have no way to validate the official story as it stands.  I do not necessarily trust or distrust MtGox.  But they need to provide confirmation of their own statements of fact.  If the police are involved, then a case number should be provided.  Perhaps a scanned copy of a police report?  I'd have much more trust in MtGox if I knew the owner has reported this to the police, if for no other reason than the fact that filing a false police report is typically a felony.


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June 21, 2011, 02:44:59 AM
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If the bitcoins were in fact stolen, then you had no legal expectation of keeping them no matter what price you bought them at.  In fact, you're lucky you are getting a roll-back rather than losing your investment completely.  If a cop found you in possession of a stolen vehicle, it won't matter that you paid for it.  They'll take it from you and give it back to the rightful owner.  It would then be your responsibility to go after the person who sold it to you.

Having said that, we have no way to validate the official story as it stands.  I do not necessarily trust or distrust MtGox.  But they need to provide confirmation of their own statements of fact.  If the police are involved, then a case number should be provided.  Perhaps a scanned copy of a police report?  I'd have much more trust in MtGox if I knew the owner has reported this to the police, if for no other reason than the fact that filing a false police report is typically a felony.



Stop.  Stop now.

Let the law decide what is or isn't.  Not you.  Not me.  Not MtGox.

4 Days until MtGox is open?  Are you serious?

HAHAHA. 

Idiots.
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