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July 20, 2017, 10:29:08 AM |
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Hi I started to play Cells on luckygames.io a few months ago. It's funny game, which is very profitable sometimes. I gradually raised my bets. And suddenly strange things began to happen - i could lose about 95% of my bank for a few rounds of cells. At some moment i had more than 4 BTC on my balance, but lost them very fast. So, I decided to check cells fairness. During my investigation, I had many different accounts on luckygames.io with different deposits of different cryptocurrencies, from different sources (including transfers inside luckygames), and so on. Also, I wrote a script that saves the multipliers of opened cells. Than script checks if they match the multipliers in the hash of round after the end of the round. That is a great thing that helped me sort out. So, I made the following conclusions: There is «maximum bet» in cells game for some players. Player stably often will receive a zero instead of multiplier for bet greater or equal to «maximum bet». According to my estimates, somewhere in 25% of cases. That dramatically increases the margin from 0.5% to about 26%. Here is video proof: https://vimeo.com/225903821During my investigation, script systematically informed me about deception of other players during playing cells, not only me. The restriction applies to all currencies in accordance with its rate. For example, if the «maximum bet» is 0.001 BTC, then «maximum bet» is about 0.01 for ETH, about 0.5 Monero XMR, and so on. «Maximum bet» is not established for new players. Except in cases where the system has identified a new account as another account of existing player with «maximum bet». But later, admin will set «maximum bet» for you manually if you play cells a lot and win. «Maximum bet» was equal to 0.01 BTC for me a month ago. Then, it became equal to 0.001 BTC. And now, «maximum bet» was equal to only 0.0001 BTC for me before ban. By the way, the official limit on the maximal bet is equal to 0.1 BTC. There are more than 174 BTC total wagered on my account. Somewhere 20% of this amount are large bets on Cells. It's 34.8 BTC. Half of cells have prizes. It's 17.4 BTC. About fourth part of the bets was scammed. It's 4.35 BTC. Average multiplier is 2. So, net loss is about 8.7 BTC. In any case, i am still in some plus. I did not check the fairness of other games at luckygames, but I'm sure that there's same scam. Has anyone checked fairness of other games on big bets? I wanted to collect more evidence, but today the admin removed the old game logs. I think he had read my private messages on luckygames, in which I shared my observations with other players. So, do not play on luckygames.io. your GeVP <GeVP(a)tuta.io> PS: russians is so russian
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MtRev
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July 27, 2017, 11:59:06 PM |
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I also believe this casino is rigged. Go small you win most of the time, but the second you go big (while playing roulette) it goes to Green/Zero. I had played at the live casinos all the time and I had never seen Zero pop up so many so many times in just 10 rolls. Sure, it can be just a coincidence, so I thought. So, I took a break from the game and came back to play a few hours later, same thing. Great entertainment, but it's just that.. . entertainment.
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July 28, 2017, 01:21:55 AM |
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when good people in the future look back at 2107 they will be surprised that everyone today doesnt know all the online casinos are scams. provably fair is a provable scam. The digital casinos easily steal money all day, all the dice sites, all the blackjack and on and on. even many of the 'players only' poker surely have sysadmins playing and stealing from everyone. they all exist only to take gullible peoples money
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July 28, 2017, 05:13:44 AM |
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Hi I started to play Cells on luckygames.io a few months ago. It's funny game, which is very profitable sometimes. I gradually raised my bets. And suddenly strange things began to happen - i could lose about 95% of my bank for a few rounds of cells. At some moment i had more than 4 BTC on my balance, but lost them very fast. So, I decided to check cells fairness. During my investigation, I had many different accounts on luckygames.io with different deposits of different cryptocurrencies, from different sources (including transfers inside luckygames), and so on. Also, I wrote a script that saves the multipliers of opened cells. Than script checks if they match the multipliers in the hash of round after the end of the round. That is a great thing that helped me sort out. So, I made the following conclusions: There is «maximum bet» in cells game for some players. Player stably often will receive a zero instead of multiplier for bet greater or equal to «maximum bet». According to my estimates, somewhere in 25% of cases. That dramatically increases the margin from 0.5% to about 26%. Here is video proof: https://vimeo.com/225903821During my investigation, script systematically informed me about deception of other players during playing cells, not only me. The restriction applies to all currencies in accordance with its rate. For example, if the «maximum bet» is 0.001 BTC, then «maximum bet» is about 0.01 for ETH, about 0.5 Monero XMR, and so on. «Maximum bet» is not established for new players. Except in cases where the system has identified a new account as another account of existing player with «maximum bet». But later, admin will set «maximum bet» for you manually if you play cells a lot and win. «Maximum bet» was equal to 0.01 BTC for me a month ago. Then, it became equal to 0.001 BTC. And now, «maximum bet» was equal to only 0.0001 BTC for me before ban. By the way, the official limit on the maximal bet is equal to 0.1 BTC. There are more than 174 BTC total wagered on my account. Somewhere 20% of this amount are large bets on Cells. It's 34.8 BTC. Half of cells have prizes. It's 17.4 BTC. About fourth part of the bets was scammed. It's 4.35 BTC. Average multiplier is 2. So, net loss is about 8.7 BTC. In any case, i am still in some plus. I did not check the fairness of other games at luckygames, but I'm sure that there's same scam. Has anyone checked fairness of other games on big bets? I wanted to collect more evidence, but today the admin removed the old game logs. I think he had read my private messages on luckygames, in which I shared my observations with other players. So, do not play on luckygames.io. your GeVP <GeVP(a)tuta.io> PS: russians is so russian I love it when people like you dissect and digest the scam artistry behind these so-called casinos. These thieves should be exposed.
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gevp (OP)
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August 01, 2017, 10:54:02 AM |
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BayAreaCoins
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August 09, 2017, 08:17:50 AM |
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I was told that bets were removed every few days to keep the site running fast. I PM'ed this blog to their owner or manager or something.
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gevp (OP)
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August 09, 2017, 06:16:24 PM |
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I was told that bets were removed every few days to keep the site running fast. I PM'ed this blog to their owner or manager or something. Owner knows about that "issue". He says "bug" and no more. Old bets' logs with "bug" was deleted specially after i inform a few players about that problem. I think, someone asked owner about that, and he deleted bets' old logs with proofs. Also he created account "Kings" and filled all page "High rollers" at cells to hide my 0.1 BTC bet with "bug". This is not a coincidence.
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BayAreaCoins
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August 09, 2017, 07:06:29 PM |
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Sometimes, the javascript hasn't been loading the cells of the new round and the system continued opening new cells from the old field. This issue has been fixed in the last update.
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gevp (OP)
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August 09, 2017, 07:16:38 PM |
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Sometimes, the javascript hasn't been loading the cells of the new round and the system continued opening new cells from the old field. This issue has been fixed in the last update. Sometimes, the javascript hasn't been loading the cells of the new round and the system continued opening new cells from the old field. This issue has been fixed in the last update. If this were the described issue, then: 1) it would sometimes appear a win-cell instead of lose-cell, but always only lose-cell instead of win-cell would appear. 2) its appearance would not depend on the amount of the bet, but it depends. 3) its appearance would not depend on the account, but it depends. So no, not a issue, but programmed behavior, that is a scam.
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August 10, 2017, 11:00:20 AM |
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https://web.archive.org/web/20170719192102/https://luckygames.io/bet/2077464868/https://prnt.sc/g6q3cl1. 0 2. 3 3. 0 4. 4 5. 0 6. 1.4 7. 1.8 8. 0 9. 0 10. 2 11. 1.3 12. 2 13. 0 14. 5 15. 1.6 16. 2 17. 0 18. 0 19. 0 20. 1.8 21. 0 22. 0 23. 1.6 24. 1.6, 25. 0 26. 0 27. 1.1 28. 0 29. 2 30. 0 31. 0 32. 1.2 33. 0 34. 0 35. 0 36. 1.5 37. 1.6 38. 0 39. 1.3 40. 0 41. 1.1 42. 3 43. 0 44. 0 45. 0 46. 0 47. 1.4 48. 0 49. 1.1 50. 1.2 51. 1.2 52. 0 53. 1.5 54. 0 55. 0 56. 3 57. 1.5, 58. 0 59. 0 60. 1.4 61. 1.5 62. 1.5 63. 1.2 64. 0 65. 3 66. 1.6 67. 1.2 68. 0 69. 1.2 70. 0 71. 0 72. 0 73. 0 74. 3 75. 0 76. 1.6 77. 0 78. 0 79. 0 80. 1.1 81. 0 82. 0 83. 1.3 84. 0 85. 1.8 86. 1.5 87. 1.3 88. 1.3 89. 0 90. 1.6 91. 0 92. 5 93. 4 94. 1.8 95. 0 96. 1.8 97. 0 98. 0 99. 1.3 100. 0 101. 0 102. 5 103. 3 104. 0 105. 2 106. 1.2 107. 0 108. 4 109. 1.5 110. 0 111. 1.4 112. 0 113. 0 114. 0 115. 0 116. 4 117. 1.3 118. 0 119. 1.1 120. 1.2 121. 1.1 122. 1.8 123. 0 124. 0 125. 1.6 126. 1.4 127. 0 128. 0 129. 0 130. 1.3 131. 5 132. 0 133. 0 134. 1.5 135. 0 136. 0 137. 3 138. 1.4 139. 1.8 140. 4 141. 0 142. 1.8 143. 1.4 144. 1.4 145. 0 146. 0 147. 1.1 148. 0 149. 0 150. 0 151. 1.1 152. 0 153. 5 154. 0 155. 0 157. 0 I see Admin already answered : "Sometimes, the javascript hasn't been loading the cells of the new round and the system continued opening new cells from the old field. This issue has been fixed in the last update." and you can again check your round date it was 0 no 4
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gevp (OP)
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August 10, 2017, 11:20:09 AM |
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As i said And i had answer to admin. His words are not true.
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August 11, 2017, 06:53:54 AM |
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Thank you for letting us know , but i am sorry to hear you got scammed. Better watch out next time fam
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August 11, 2017, 10:27:16 PM |
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hello, I've been playing at lucky games for months and really like playing there. i'm staring to send refers there when i saw this thread for first time todaay. after 2 hours of watching both videos and checking other info you provided. i have to say to me it does look like site is cheating. i removeed my LG sig till we hear from the owner. i want to hear both sides before coming making a judgment. don't take this the worng way, but i hope you are wrong. but after watching the 15min video, is very hard to say you are not wrong. so let's see what the owner says/. i really love lucky games. been waiting for a dice site like this for years. hope it's some kind of error we will see
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BayAreaCoins
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August 11, 2017, 10:32:14 PM |
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hello, I've been playing at lucky games for months and really like playing there. i'm staring to send refers there when i saw this thread for first time todaay. after 2 hours of watching both videos and checking other info you provided. i have to say to me it does look like site is cheating. i removeed my LG sig till we hear from the owner. i want to hear both sides before coming making a judgment. don't take this the worng way, but i hope you are wrong. but after watching the 15min video, is very hard to say you are not wrong. so let's see what the owner says/. i really love lucky games. been waiting for a dice site like this for years. hope it's some kind of error we will see I spoke with p1ayer yesterday and I believe they are going to respond to this thread. Even if there was a flaw in the game... at least it can be fixed and the guy can be compensated... it isn't the end of the world either way.
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August 11, 2017, 11:44:33 PM |
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I'm really surprised with this , you don't see happening in other trusted sites hope the admin will come by here , cause I really only gamble at luckygames these days and this is scaring me I never bothered with checking fairness cause I discovered the site late and thought other members already figured out that the site is 100% fair
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joksim299
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August 12, 2017, 02:03:30 AM |
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I'm really surprised with this , you don't see happening in other trusted sites hope the admin will come by here , cause I really only gamble at luckygames these days and this is scaring me I never bothered with checking fairness cause I discovered the site late and thought other members already figured out that the site is 100% fair
I have never played game in the question it is not fun for me. I have played Dice & Roulette games only and verified each and every bet and all of the bets verified. Videos provided by GeVP are convincing and I am also waiting for reply from the owner.
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LuckyLuke1
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August 12, 2017, 06:52:44 AM |
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Admin already explained what happened : Sometimes, the javascript hasn't been loading the cells of the new round and the system continued opening new cells from the old field. This issue has been fixed in the last update.
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August 12, 2017, 09:51:31 AM |
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Hi I started to play Cells on luckygames.io a few months ago. It's funny game, which is very profitable sometimes. I gradually raised my bets. And suddenly strange things began to happen - i could lose about 95% of my bank for a few rounds of cells. At some moment i had more than 4 BTC on my balance, but lost them very fast. So, I decided to check cells fairness. During my investigation, I had many different accounts on luckygames.io with different deposits of different cryptocurrencies, from different sources (including transfers inside luckygames), and so on. Also, I wrote a script that saves the multipliers of opened cells. Than script checks if they match the multipliers in the hash of round after the end of the round. That is a great thing that helped me sort out. So, I made the following conclusions: There is «maximum bet» in cells game for some players. Player stably often will receive a zero instead of multiplier for bet greater or equal to «maximum bet». According to my estimates, somewhere in 25% of cases. That dramatically increases the margin from 0.5% to about 26%. Here is video proof: https://vimeo.com/225903821During my investigation, script systematically informed me about deception of other players during playing cells, not only me. The restriction applies to all currencies in accordance with its rate. For example, if the «maximum bet» is 0.001 BTC, then «maximum bet» is about 0.01 for ETH, about 0.5 Monero XMR, and so on. «Maximum bet» is not established for new players. Except in cases where the system has identified a new account as another account of existing player with «maximum bet». But later, admin will set «maximum bet» for you manually if you play cells a lot and win. «Maximum bet» was equal to 0.01 BTC for me a month ago. Then, it became equal to 0.001 BTC. And now, «maximum bet» was equal to only 0.0001 BTC for me before ban. By the way, the official limit on the maximal bet is equal to 0.1 BTC. There are more than 174 BTC total wagered on my account. Somewhere 20% of this amount are large bets on Cells. It's 34.8 BTC. Half of cells have prizes. It's 17.4 BTC. About fourth part of the bets was scammed. It's 4.35 BTC. Average multiplier is 2. So, net loss is about 8.7 BTC. In any case, i am still in some plus. I did not check the fairness of other games at luckygames, but I'm sure that there's same scam. Has anyone checked fairness of other games on big bets? I wanted to collect more evidence, but today the admin removed the old game logs. I think he had read my private messages on luckygames, in which I shared my observations with other players. So, do not play on luckygames.io. your GeVP <GeVP(a)tuta.io> PS: russians is so russian Good job on the find, It is very dodgy that when you go small you will always win, but when you start going big, you would always lose. Would recommend just better on more reputable sites like Bitsler, bitcasino and any other reputable websites. Looks like due to the other reply it is some sort of glitch but it is still pretty dodgy to have that big of a gitch on a casino that big and popular, lets hope everything is fixed and your coins are refunded.
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gevp (OP)
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August 12, 2017, 10:50:45 PM |
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I'm really surprised with this , you don't see happening in other trusted sites hope the admin will come by here , cause I really only gamble at luckygames these days and this is scaring me I never bothered with checking fairness cause I discovered the site late and thought other members already figured out that the site is 100% fair
I have never played game in the question it is not fun for me. I have played Dice & Roulette games only and verified each and every bet and all of the bets verified. Videos provided by GeVP are convincing and I am also waiting for reply from the owner. How did you verify bets?
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August 13, 2017, 09:55:33 PM |
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I'm really surprised with this , you don't see happening in other trusted sites hope the admin will come by here , cause I really only gamble at luckygames these days and this is scaring me I never bothered with checking fairness cause I discovered the site late and thought other members already figured out that the site is 100% fair
I have never played game in the question it is not fun for me. I have played Dice & Roulette games only and verified each and every bet and all of the bets verified. Videos provided by GeVP are convincing and I am also waiting for reply from the owner. How did you verify bets? Automated with verification bot which compared hashes and result number.
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BayAreaCoins
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August 13, 2017, 10:03:49 PM |
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I'm really surprised with this , you don't see happening in other trusted sites hope the admin will come by here , cause I really only gamble at luckygames these days and this is scaring me I never bothered with checking fairness cause I discovered the site late and thought other members already figured out that the site is 100% fair
I have never played game in the question it is not fun for me. I have played Dice & Roulette games only and verified each and every bet and all of the bets verified. Videos provided by GeVP are convincing and I am also waiting for reply from the owner. How did you verify bets? Automated with verification bot which compared hashes and result number. Could you please verify this: Client seed: 8ab8fa700fa93681f2b757f027930171 Server seed: ab3f7ed98b43b8204197ef497c979c641dd70b043c40ec9d46a5da26a146bd90 Server Seed Hash: 6c6b26564dcdc1ac7e59e6bbff561a4055fabf56e8c6fea8080f5cf07b1092b3 Result Seed: 2e00b3b49bcf22bf0920ad2491b8ccfea79d518444892969769b94845183139450e4d4d31b342d8 c3de165f83f75dbd87a80d4f927d26724c064ef6a4490a1d6 Result Number: 197580272795 Lucky Number: 95 Verification: <?PHP $client_seed = '8ab8fa700fa93681f2b757f027930171'; $server_seed = 'ab3f7ed98b43b8204197ef497c979c641dd70b043c40ec9d46a5da26a146bd90'; $result_seed = hash_hmac('sha512', $server_seed, $client_seed); $result_number = hexdec(substr($result_seed,0,10)); $lucky_number = abs($result_number % 100); echo $lucky_number;
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August 14, 2017, 07:34:40 PM |
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I'm really surprised with this , you don't see happening in other trusted sites hope the admin will come by here , cause I really only gamble at luckygames these days and this is scaring me I never bothered with checking fairness cause I discovered the site late and thought other members already figured out that the site is 100% fair
I have never played game in the question it is not fun for me. I have played Dice & Roulette games only and verified each and every bet and all of the bets verified. Videos provided by GeVP are convincing and I am also waiting for reply from the owner. How did you verify bets? Automated with verification bot which compared hashes and result number. Could you please verify this: Client seed: 8ab8fa700fa93681f2b757f027930171 Server seed: ab3f7ed98b43b8204197ef497c979c641dd70b043c40ec9d46a5da26a146bd90 Server Seed Hash: 6c6b26564dcdc1ac7e59e6bbff561a4055fabf56e8c6fea8080f5cf07b1092b3 Result Seed: 2e00b3b49bcf22bf0920ad2491b8ccfea79d518444892969769b94845183139450e4d4d31b342d8 c3de165f83f75dbd87a80d4f927d26724c064ef6a4490a1d6 Result Number: 197580272795 Lucky Number: 95 Verification: <?PHP $client_seed = '8ab8fa700fa93681f2b757f027930171'; $server_seed = 'ab3f7ed98b43b8204197ef497c979c641dd70b043c40ec9d46a5da26a146bd90'; $result_seed = hash_hmac('sha512', $server_seed, $client_seed); $result_number = hexdec(substr($result_seed,0,10)); $lucky_number = abs($result_number % 100); echo $lucky_number; Lucky number = 95 , server seed hashed output same hash
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gevp (OP)
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August 17, 2017, 06:19:16 PM |
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Hi guys,
I need to share something with you.
My name is Mark, well known as p1AYER, 28 years old and I'm Ukrainian, currently living in Thailand. From the age of 15, an amateur of the web development and servers administration. I'm managing Luckygames with 4 servers and 30 cryptocurrencies by myself. The design, program code, games and all the features you may saw at Luckygames have been written by myself. I don't trust people too, that's why I never used to pay for a staff.
There were up to 10 huge attacks on Luckygames, that cost over 10 BTC for me. Despite this, Luckygames is still alive and will continue serving its players in the future. And I'm not even upset, because it is ton of experience which I bought for just 10 BTC. I have 2 more businesses connecting to the crypto world, which allows me to keep Luckygames, even if it's not profitable.
Cells game is my favourite one on Luckygames. Before launching it, I didn't even thought that it could be easily cheated. There were 156 cells available and 100 opened cells needed till the next round. The player GeVP wrote a simple bot, that was opening cells using small bet amount (10 satoshis). Once the bot founds, that the number of opened cells with zero multiplier was significantly higher than with 1.1+ multipliers, it started to place huge bets 0.01 BTC etc. Therefore, the winning chance has been increased up to 70-90%. Whether it's attractive? - sure. Take a look at his deposits and withdrawals history.
ID TYPE DATE COIN STATUS TRANSACTION ID AMOUNT 497207 Withdrawal 2017-07-17 21:16 Bitcoin Processed b5babc2a4565a7b71a7fb1f4025074322f322aad7e2770c7241076fe964aa748 0.30000000 BTC 475931 Withdrawal 2017-07-14 18:03 Bitcoin Processed 859bc983ddbc01a36a97aa418c750073c9888a75ebaff54b2e767a5eee86720f 0.10050000 BTC 469451 Withdrawal 2017-07-13 21:11 Bitcoin Processed 4d87a603af9f2da9be0ce7a5cc1e7c8ce6494d77564cb128cde1a4ccb1f506ce 0.09500000 BTC 469318 Withdrawal 2017-07-13 20:48 Bitcoin Processed 850db4d772ec7b8939e8ea4b4012ab7425a3e9447cb073485b4cc3e40db11cb9 0.09000000 BTC 468459 Withdrawal 2017-07-13 17:22 Bitcoin Processed 571cc0914367e931097f33ea2434024926fcf31b1cc44e3036a0b30058711d35 0.00745635 BTC 444463 Deposit 2017-07-10 20:06 Bitcoin Processed 5272ca214fb7918d1d3bf923ded634ff55c70214048dbebb5deccd2a168b5c32 0.15496024 BTC 431408 Withdrawal 2017-07-09 16:40 Bitcoin Processed c42db860b096c30aaff19314925133c21efc2dad3596deb045402800a01c32ab 0.25000000 BTC 317476 Withdrawal 2017-06-27 20:56 Bitcoin Processed fa58870b37613433fd9f22e2820a7ef8d76da772f6d33771731fdcb0911d5f2d 0.16303478 BTC 316800 Withdrawal 2017-06-27 18:57 Bitcoin Processed bd86a24a13d3af5ac6f07f6eb11c4855b7d565b2955ecba51d31dee7197f26ff 0.23000000 BTC 296906 Withdrawal 2017-06-25 08:34 Bitcoin Processed 4971e06b81cafe8cdf9d2f9e30aae49331023e72064fd2a80ed3cc0a46e6d957 0.10512291 BTC 296835 Withdrawal 2017-06-25 08:12 Bitcoin Processed 4f67bc9492c909a831209346eb870852327791db7d8e152c6ae42c2530d5da84 0.01500000 BTC 288505 Deposit 2017-06-24 11:13 Bitcoin Processed e4afb8fa24ca181dd8ace4938d38aa351a69cd5ece63d97fb379f3c6d53428d6 0.02877270 BTC
As he cheated on the website, the fast decision was to cheat on him. I know, that was a wrong way. I hope, that he would take the profit and won't play there, before I made the new update including fixes. Unfortunately he continued playing, tried to cheat the website once again using accounts: GeVP - 0.78027867 BTC profit GeVPq - 0.35623531 BTC profit GeVPfair - 0.00231441 BTC profit GeVP3 - 0.03462817 BTC profit GeVP2 - 0.06195488 BTC porift
Finally, he made 1.2354144 BTC profit, started from 0.02877270 BTC.
P.S. Luckygames is my favourite website, it's like a hobby. I'm spending a lot of free time developing the website to keep it going well. And I will not let someone to cheat on it.
Sincerely, Mark.
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gevp (OP)
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August 17, 2017, 07:38:33 PM |
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I think I was wrong about the fact that owner did not cheat against new players. It seems that he cheated against all "high roll" players on Cells.
At this moment: p1ayer does not respond on bitcointalk anymore but he is active on luckygames Also he had additionally made some unfair manipuations with my suspended accounts on luckygames So I think that all is over
In total: 1. Check the fairness of games, if there is such an opportunity. The provably fairness does not guarantee fair game to you, but only gives you the opportunity to check fairness. Always use that opportunity. 2. luckygames.io is unfair
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August 19, 2017, 06:54:38 AM |
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Probably everyone has already made a conclusion whether I was wrong or GeVP.
Thanks to everyone, who is supporting Luckygames and me personally. You guys are giving a lot of motivation. And I appreciate everyone's opinion, even if it is negative.
You are able to express your opinion in the poll, whether I need to refund 0.4 BTC or not. Link: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2101649 The poll will be closed on August, 26th.
P.S. "Despite this, Luckygames is still alive and will continue serving its players in the future".
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BayAreaCoins
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August 20, 2017, 12:20:33 AM |
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Probably everyone has already made a conclusion whether I was wrong or GeVP.
Thanks to everyone, who is supporting Luckygames and me personally. You guys are giving a lot of motivation. And I appreciate everyone's opinion, even if it is negative.
You are able to express your opinion in the poll, whether I need to refund 0.4 BTC or not. Link: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2101649 The poll will be closed on August, 26th.
P.S. "Despite this, Luckygames is still alive and will continue serving its players in the future". I've responded in that thread.
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November 08, 2017, 03:54:58 AM |
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lucky is a legit site!
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memoleonq
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January 26, 2018, 08:01:07 AM |
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I also believe this casino is rigged. Go small you win most of the time, but the second you go big (while playing roulette) it goes to Green/Zero. I had played at the live casinos all the time and I had never seen Zero pop up so many so many times in just 10 rolls. Sure, it can be just a coincidence, so I thought. So, I took a break from the game and came back to play a few hours later, same thing. Great entertainment, but it's just that.. . entertainment.
that's true ... go under bet that wins ... increase the bet and lose i play over 85, in the half year that I played in LG I reached 82 reds 2 times ... so I put a limit of 85 reds and make a table in Excel to calculate the initial bet and when the autobet stop ... with the first bet initial could hold up to 200 red, put a stop if it reached the 70 reds, I started running in 6 tabs for 1 day and never reached the 70 reds ... I decided to increase the initial bet change from 0.000001 to 0.00001 and again adjust the autobet to stop in 70 reds, but according to my table I could only support 92 reds ... and in less than 1 hour 3 tabs had already reached 70 reds ... in the 3 hours that i playing in total 8 times reach the 70 reds, but my surprise was that one of them reached 94 reds ... I lost everything I had ... days later I returned to my initial base the low and the I started running for 3 days and never reached the 70 reds ... I decided to raise the bet and the same in less than 1 hour had already reached the 70 reds, continue and this time reach 97 reds ... it is logical that if plays with a low initial bet will win little, but if the bet is increased the gain is higher, which does not suit a casino because it would be more lost, I think the system should have some adjustment for avoid that
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tarek313
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April 08, 2018, 09:46:35 AM |
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I'm really surprised with this , you don't see happening in other trusted sites hope the admin will come by here , cause I really only gamble at luckygames these days and this is scaring me I never bothered with checking fairness cause I discovered the site late and thought other members already figured out that the site is 100% fair
Not 100% fair as you and others think i am sure and know luckygames have a smart seed generator generating a seed for next game to get a results as they want for example in dice game when you set 10% chance to win you can in some minutes or in some hours get loss with 90 or 125 losses in a raw But when you set 90% chance you can play days with 10 times or more bets and not get 80 wins in a raw! It's obvious we're not stupid If you want to win don't believe the auto seed you need to change your seed after every bet
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April 10, 2018, 11:32:33 PM |
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Maybe there were some bugs on the website before this week
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July 24, 2018, 02:10:53 PM |
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Why was this message/question deleted by the Moderator? If you want to win don't believe the auto seed you need to change your seed after every bet
How do i change seed after every bet?
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Mandrake7667
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July 27, 2018, 10:58:03 AM |
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I Came to the conclusion the game is rigged aswell or the site is bugging.
For the sake of it i tried it with 4,8 Lsk coins.
When i had the last Lsk coins left i tried Martingale tactics. For this i run Bet 10.000 above 1 . Winning odds are 99% With house edge its 98%. Winning sum is 10. On lose martingale. This means that either you win or get flushed out at a bad streak there is no in between.
Still i can see iam winning small amount but my sum is sinking. Lol imagine that.
Tells me the site is either bugging or faking. The rate of loss also tells me its corrupted as i bet 10.000 from 0.02000000 and even though there was no losing streak that crashed my betting totally it should be a matematical physical impossibility to lose while martingaling if the only option is to win or to crash as in this case.
Lessons learned.
If the site had worked i would have used it as a holder to grow coins from trading but after a couple of weeks of testing i cant say iam confident.
Insteed of gambling on casino sites better to turn into crypto and fx trading combination.
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HereticalSmile
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January 13, 2019, 12:36:43 PM |
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In total: 1. Check the fairness of games, if there is such an opportunity. The provably fairness does not guarantee fair game to you, but only gives you the opportunity to check fairness. Always use that opportunity. 2. luckygames.io is unfair
how many places online with such opportunity? .... And with such spread rates? And with such choice cryptocurrency ?
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