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July 20, 2017, 10:29:08 AM
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Hi

I started to play Cells on luckygames.io a few months ago. It's funny game, which is very profitable sometimes. I gradually raised my bets. And suddenly strange things began to happen - i could lose about 95% of my bank for a few rounds of cells. At some moment i had more than 4 BTC on my balance, but lost them very fast. So, I decided to check cells fairness.

During my investigation, I had many different accounts on luckygames.io with different deposits of different cryptocurrencies, from different sources (including transfers inside luckygames), and so on.

Also, I wrote a script that saves the multipliers of opened cells. Than script checks if they match the multipliers in the hash of round after the end of the round. That is a great thing that helped me sort out.

So, I made the following conclusions:
There is «maximum bet» in cells game for some players. Player stably often will receive a zero instead of multiplier for bet greater or equal to «maximum bet». According to my estimates, somewhere in 25% of cases. That dramatically increases the margin from 0.5% to about 26%.
Here is video proof: https://vimeo.com/225903821

During my investigation, script systematically informed me about deception of other players during playing cells, not only me.

The restriction applies to all currencies in accordance with its rate. For example, if the «maximum bet» is 0.001 BTC, then «maximum bet» is about 0.01 for ETH, about 0.5 Monero XMR, and so on.

«Maximum bet» is not established for new players. Except in cases where the system has identified a new account as another account of existing player with «maximum bet». But later, admin will set «maximum bet» for you manually if you play cells a lot and win.

«Maximum bet» was equal to 0.01 BTC for me a month ago. Then, it became equal to 0.001 BTC. And now, «maximum bet» was equal to only 0.0001 BTC for me before ban. By the way, the official limit on the maximal bet is equal to 0.1 BTC.

There are more than 174 BTC total wagered on my account. Somewhere 20% of this amount are large bets on Cells. It's 34.8 BTC. Half of cells have prizes. It's 17.4 BTC. About fourth part of the bets was scammed. It's 4.35 BTC. Average multiplier is 2. So, net loss is about 8.7 BTC. In any case, i am still in some plus.

I did not check the fairness of other games at luckygames, but I'm sure that there's same scam. Has anyone checked fairness of other games on big bets?

I wanted to collect more evidence, but today the admin removed the old game logs. I think he had read my private messages on luckygames, in which I shared my observations with other players.

So, do not play on luckygames.io.

your GeVP <GeVP(a)tuta.io>

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July 27, 2017, 11:59:06 PM
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I also believe this casino is rigged. Go small you win most of the time, but the second you go big (while playing roulette) it goes to Green/Zero. I had played at the live casinos all the time and I had never seen Zero pop up so many so many times in just 10 rolls. Sure, it can be just a coincidence, so I thought. So, I took a break from the game and came back to play a few hours later, same thing. Great entertainment, but it's just that.. . entertainment.

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July 28, 2017, 01:21:55 AM
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when good people in the future look back at 2107 they will be surprised that everyone today doesnt know all the online casinos are scams. provably fair is a provable scam. The digital  casinos easily steal money all day, all the dice sites, all the blackjack and on and on. even many of the 'players only' poker surely have sysadmins playing and stealing from everyone.  they all exist only to take gullible peoples money

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July 28, 2017, 05:13:44 AM
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Hi

I started to play Cells on luckygames.io a few months ago. It's funny game, which is very profitable sometimes. I gradually raised my bets. And suddenly strange things began to happen - i could lose about 95% of my bank for a few rounds of cells. At some moment i had more than 4 BTC on my balance, but lost them very fast. So, I decided to check cells fairness.

During my investigation, I had many different accounts on luckygames.io with different deposits of different cryptocurrencies, from different sources (including transfers inside luckygames), and so on.

Also, I wrote a script that saves the multipliers of opened cells. Than script checks if they match the multipliers in the hash of round after the end of the round. That is a great thing that helped me sort out.

So, I made the following conclusions:
There is «maximum bet» in cells game for some players. Player stably often will receive a zero instead of multiplier for bet greater or equal to «maximum bet». According to my estimates, somewhere in 25% of cases. That dramatically increases the margin from 0.5% to about 26%.
Here is video proof: https://vimeo.com/225903821

During my investigation, script systematically informed me about deception of other players during playing cells, not only me.

The restriction applies to all currencies in accordance with its rate. For example, if the «maximum bet» is 0.001 BTC, then «maximum bet» is about 0.01 for ETH, about 0.5 Monero XMR, and so on.

«Maximum bet» is not established for new players. Except in cases where the system has identified a new account as another account of existing player with «maximum bet». But later, admin will set «maximum bet» for you manually if you play cells a lot and win.

«Maximum bet» was equal to 0.01 BTC for me a month ago. Then, it became equal to 0.001 BTC. And now, «maximum bet» was equal to only 0.0001 BTC for me before ban. By the way, the official limit on the maximal bet is equal to 0.1 BTC.

There are more than 174 BTC total wagered on my account. Somewhere 20% of this amount are large bets on Cells. It's 34.8 BTC. Half of cells have prizes. It's 17.4 BTC. About fourth part of the bets was scammed. It's 4.35 BTC. Average multiplier is 2. So, net loss is about 8.7 BTC. In any case, i am still in some plus.

I did not check the fairness of other games at luckygames, but I'm sure that there's same scam. Has anyone checked fairness of other games on big bets?

I wanted to collect more evidence, but today the admin removed the old game logs. I think he had read my private messages on luckygames, in which I shared my observations with other players.

So, do not play on luckygames.io.

your GeVP <GeVP(a)tuta.io>

PS: russians is so russian


I love it when people like you dissect and digest the scam artistry behind these so-called casinos. These thieves should be exposed.




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August 01, 2017, 10:54:02 AM
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More proofs:
https://vimeo.com/227886031
https://web.archive.org/web/*/https://luckygames.io/bet/2077464868/
This log file (and a lot of others) disappeared 20 Jul

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August 09, 2017, 08:17:50 AM
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More proofs:
https://vimeo.com/227886031
https://web.archive.org/web/*/https://luckygames.io/bet/2077464868/
This log file (and a lot of others) disappeared 20 Jul

I was told that bets were removed every few days to keep the site running fast.

I PM'ed this blog to their owner or manager or something.


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August 09, 2017, 06:16:24 PM
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More proofs:
https://vimeo.com/227886031
https://web.archive.org/web/*/https://luckygames.io/bet/2077464868/
This log file (and a lot of others) disappeared 20 Jul

I was told that bets were removed every few days to keep the site running fast.

I PM'ed this blog to their owner or manager or something.
Owner knows about that "issue". He says "bug" and no more.
Old bets' logs with "bug" was deleted specially after i inform a few players about that problem. I think, someone asked owner about that, and he deleted bets' old logs with proofs. Also he created account "Kings" and filled all page "High rollers" at cells to hide my 0.1 BTC bet with "bug". This is not a coincidence.

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August 09, 2017, 07:06:29 PM
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Sometimes, the javascript hasn't been loading the cells of the new round and the system continued opening new cells from the old field. This issue has been fixed in the last update.



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August 09, 2017, 07:16:38 PM
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Sometimes, the javascript hasn't been loading the cells of the new round and the system continued opening new cells from the old field. This issue has been fixed in the last update.

Sometimes, the javascript hasn't been loading the cells of the new round and the system continued opening new cells from the old field. This issue has been fixed in the last update.
If this were the described issue, then:
1) it would sometimes appear a win-cell instead of lose-cell, but always only lose-cell instead of win-cell would appear.
2) its appearance would not depend on the amount of the bet, but it depends.
3) its appearance would not depend on the account, but it depends.
So no, not a issue, but programmed behavior, that is a scam.

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August 10, 2017, 11:00:20 AM
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https://web.archive.org/web/20170719192102/https://luckygames.io/bet/2077464868/

https://prnt.sc/g6q3cl

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2.        3
3.        0
4.        4
5.        0
6.        1.4
7.        1.8
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9.        0
10.      2
11.      1.3
12.      2
13.      0
14.      5
15.      1.6
16.      2
17.      0
18.      0
19.      0
20.      1.8
21.      0
22.      0
23.      1.6
24.      1.6,
25.      0
26.      0
27.      1.1
28.      0
29.      2
30.      0
31.      0
32.      1.2
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34.      0
35.      0
36.      1.5
37.      1.6
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39.      1.3
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41.      1.1
42.      3
43.      0
44.      0
45.      0
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47.      1.4
48.      0
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50.      1.2
51.      1.2
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53.      1.5
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57.      1.5,
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63.      1.2
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74.      3
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76.      1.6
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78.      0
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101.    0
102.    5
103.    3
104.    0
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106.    1.2
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108.    4
109.    1.5
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111.    1.4
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113.    0
114.    0
115.    0
116.    4
117.    1.3
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120.    1.2
121.    1.1
122.    1.8
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124.    0
125.    1.6
126.    1.4
127.    0
128.    0
129.    0
130.    1.3
131.    5
132.    0
133.    0
134.    1.5
135.    0
136.    0
137.    3
138.    1.4
139.    1.8
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141.    0
142.    1.8
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144.    1.4
145.    0
146.    0
147.    1.1
148.    0
149.    0
150.    0
151.    1.1
152.    0
153.    5
154.    0
155.    0
157.    0

I see Admin already answered : "Sometimes, the javascript hasn't been loading the cells of the new round and the system continued opening new cells from the old field. This issue has been fixed in the last update." and you can again check your round date it was 0 no 4
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August 10, 2017, 11:20:09 AM
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As i said
No, numbers of cells starts from 0, not 1. So
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116.    1.3
Here is first cell on board, but it's number is 0.
https://luckygames.io/bet/3072955781/
Second cell, number is 1.
https://luckygames.io/bet/3072956488/
And i had answer to admin. His words are not true.

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August 11, 2017, 06:53:54 AM
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Thank you for letting us know , but i am sorry to hear you got scammed. Better watch out next time fam
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August 11, 2017, 10:27:16 PM
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More proofs:
https://vimeo.com/227886031
https://web.archive.org/web/*/https://luckygames.io/bet/2077464868/
This log file (and a lot of others) disappeared 20 Jul


hello, I've been playing at lucky games for months and really like playing there.

i'm staring to send refers there when i saw this thread for first time todaay.

after 2 hours of watching both videos and checking other info you provided.

i have to say to me it does look like site is cheating.

i removeed my LG sig till we hear from the owner.

i want to hear both sides before coming making a judgment.


don't take this the worng way, but i hope you are wrong.


but after watching the 15min video, is very hard to say you are not wrong.


so let's see what the owner says/.



i really love lucky games. been waiting for a dice site like this for years.  hope it's some kind of error



we will see

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August 11, 2017, 10:32:14 PM
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More proofs:
https://vimeo.com/227886031
https://web.archive.org/web/*/https://luckygames.io/bet/2077464868/
This log file (and a lot of others) disappeared 20 Jul


hello, I've been playing at lucky games for months and really like playing there.

i'm staring to send refers there when i saw this thread for first time todaay.

after 2 hours of watching both videos and checking other info you provided.

i have to say to me it does look like site is cheating.

i removeed my LG sig till we hear from the owner.

i want to hear both sides before coming making a judgment.


don't take this the worng way, but i hope you are wrong.


but after watching the 15min video, is very hard to say you are not wrong.


so let's see what the owner says/.



i really love lucky games. been waiting for a dice site like this for years.  hope it's some kind of error



we will see

I spoke with p1ayer yesterday and I believe they are going to respond to this thread.

Even if there was a flaw in the game... at least it can be fixed and the guy can be compensated... it isn't the end of the world either way.


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August 11, 2017, 11:44:33 PM
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I'm really surprised with this , you don't see happening in other trusted sites
hope the admin will come by here , cause I really only gamble at luckygames these days and this is scaring me
I never bothered with checking fairness cause I discovered the site late and thought other members already figured out that the site is 100% fair
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August 12, 2017, 02:03:30 AM
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I'm really surprised with this , you don't see happening in other trusted sites
hope the admin will come by here , cause I really only gamble at luckygames these days and this is scaring me
I never bothered with checking fairness cause I discovered the site late and thought other members already figured out that the site is 100% fair

I have never played game in the question it is not fun for me.
I have played Dice & Roulette games only and verified each and every bet and all of the bets verified.
Videos provided by GeVP are convincing and I am also waiting for reply from the owner. 

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August 12, 2017, 06:52:44 AM
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Admin already explained what happened : Sometimes, the javascript hasn't been loading the cells of the new round and the system continued opening new cells from the old field. This issue has been fixed in the last update.
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August 12, 2017, 09:51:31 AM
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Hi

I started to play Cells on luckygames.io a few months ago. It's funny game, which is very profitable sometimes. I gradually raised my bets. And suddenly strange things began to happen - i could lose about 95% of my bank for a few rounds of cells. At some moment i had more than 4 BTC on my balance, but lost them very fast. So, I decided to check cells fairness.

During my investigation, I had many different accounts on luckygames.io with different deposits of different cryptocurrencies, from different sources (including transfers inside luckygames), and so on.

Also, I wrote a script that saves the multipliers of opened cells. Than script checks if they match the multipliers in the hash of round after the end of the round. That is a great thing that helped me sort out.

So, I made the following conclusions:
There is «maximum bet» in cells game for some players. Player stably often will receive a zero instead of multiplier for bet greater or equal to «maximum bet». According to my estimates, somewhere in 25% of cases. That dramatically increases the margin from 0.5% to about 26%.
Here is video proof: https://vimeo.com/225903821

During my investigation, script systematically informed me about deception of other players during playing cells, not only me.

The restriction applies to all currencies in accordance with its rate. For example, if the «maximum bet» is 0.001 BTC, then «maximum bet» is about 0.01 for ETH, about 0.5 Monero XMR, and so on.

«Maximum bet» is not established for new players. Except in cases where the system has identified a new account as another account of existing player with «maximum bet». But later, admin will set «maximum bet» for you manually if you play cells a lot and win.

«Maximum bet» was equal to 0.01 BTC for me a month ago. Then, it became equal to 0.001 BTC. And now, «maximum bet» was equal to only 0.0001 BTC for me before ban. By the way, the official limit on the maximal bet is equal to 0.1 BTC.

There are more than 174 BTC total wagered on my account. Somewhere 20% of this amount are large bets on Cells. It's 34.8 BTC. Half of cells have prizes. It's 17.4 BTC. About fourth part of the bets was scammed. It's 4.35 BTC. Average multiplier is 2. So, net loss is about 8.7 BTC. In any case, i am still in some plus.

I did not check the fairness of other games at luckygames, but I'm sure that there's same scam. Has anyone checked fairness of other games on big bets?

I wanted to collect more evidence, but today the admin removed the old game logs. I think he had read my private messages on luckygames, in which I shared my observations with other players.

So, do not play on luckygames.io.

your GeVP <GeVP(a)tuta.io>

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Good job on the find, It is very dodgy that when you go small you will always win, but when you start going big, you would always lose. Would recommend just better on more reputable sites like Bitsler, bitcasino and any other reputable websites.

Looks like due to the other reply it is some sort of glitch but it is still pretty dodgy to have that big of a gitch on a casino that big and popular, lets hope everything is fixed and your coins are refunded.
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August 12, 2017, 10:50:45 PM
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I'm really surprised with this , you don't see happening in other trusted sites
hope the admin will come by here , cause I really only gamble at luckygames these days and this is scaring me
I never bothered with checking fairness cause I discovered the site late and thought other members already figured out that the site is 100% fair

I have never played game in the question it is not fun for me.
I have played Dice & Roulette games only and verified each and every bet and all of the bets verified.
Videos provided by GeVP are convincing and I am also waiting for reply from the owner. 
How did you verify bets?

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