mem's BITCOIN GAMBLING LIST v2 discussion.

[mem]

Welcome To the list (WIP).

Its been coming for a long time (to long), and now that have I have a little bit of holiday time spare I shall rework the entire list to speed up submissions and removals.
This new list will be auto generated from a csv which will be compiled from a shared google document (WIP) which will be linked on the main thread to serve as a potentially more up to date list than this forum posting.

I will enable key members of the forum who have outstanding credibility to update and modify the spreadsheet without my consent, 2 members with outstanding credibility and a constant presence come to mind: Stephen Gormick and Dooglus.

Posting blatant lies like BitcoinFlush because your site didnt get added quick enough will ensure you are never welcome on this list again.

This forum post is self moderated, please keep discussion on topic: new casinos, provably fair queries etc.
Should you wish to contact me I am available on gmail and email on: mem.namefix at gmail.com

[1715585683]

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[mem]

The request:

Please add us to your poker list .

http://satoshipoker.org

My response:

hello, may I suggest that you have a trusted AV Vendor do a report on your clients exe, it will set most users mind to ease.
Also, if you do not already you should have hashes of the client download file so users can confirmed it has not been tampered with.

I love poker, will try and set up an account tonight, was on seals for the first time in 3 months last night

The Lie and Slander:

It's clear that mem has little integrity, and not much in the way of intelligence either.  He's a liar and a shill.  He's not competent enough, nor intectually honest enough, to serve as some kind of "watchdog".

I would say that goes a little too far, but yes, i am annoyed about mem consequently rejecting satoshi poker on the gambling list. I feel some sort of conflict of interest in his list, hence the reason why he refuses honest businesses and uses non-business related reasons to flame businesses on his list.

At this moment we are content not to be listed on it, as an unstable individual as him/her can do only more damage than good.

The Denial:

To many to quote, it just keeps coming.

The Avoidance of Direct Questions:

Why not just edit your original thread completely starting from scratch?

Because then he can't censor the responses from the people he attacks

At this point BitcoinFlush's character can be flushed down the toilet as far as Im concerned.

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[Zaih]

I believe the credibility of your gambling list was definitely heavily influenced by the fact that the thread had been around for quite a long time, and as a result had accumulated a decent amount of views & replies.

Starting a new thread will take away from this, and lead to you unfairly sabotaging your rightful credibility.

Why not just edit your original thread completely starting from scratch?

[mem]

I believe the credibility of your gambling list was definitely heavily influenced by the fact that the thread had been around for quite a long time, and as a result had accumulated a decent amount of views & replies.

Starting a new thread will take away from this, and lead to you unfairly sabotaging your rightful credibility.

Why not just edit your original thread completely starting from scratch?

The issue I have faced recently is that I have come under attack from several trolls who do nothing more than derail and attack me on the main list.
Addressing the blatant lies directed at me and fending off ridiculous accusations (lol mem is paid by BFL, BitBet.us, SealsWithClubs.eu, CrackDice, to shill (I wish I was)) is consuming to much of my time currently.

A self moderated thread will enable me to keep the signal to noise ratio high and I can easily edit the new post to redirect to the new.

[mem]

Why not just edit your original thread completely starting from scratch?

Because then he can't censor the responses from the people he attacks

Please addres this post BitcoinFlush:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=203763.msg2129668#msg2129668

I am leaving your irrelevant post here to show that you have chosen to lie, slander and attack then claim innocence.

[mem]

I believe the credibility of your gambling list was definitely heavily influenced by the fact that the thread had been around for quite a long time, and as a result had accumulated a decent amount of views & replies.

Starting a new thread will take away from this, and lead to you unfairly sabotaging your rightful credibility.

Why not just edit your original thread completely starting from scratch?

After relaxing and watching the latest episode of GoT I have decided you are correct, thank you for the voice of reason.

Additionally I shall cease my current antagonisms and restore the list to an a-political state, I cannot expect casinos to abstain from strong political point of views if I do not do so myself. In cases that I find extreme, eg the blog posts by micrea of MPEx I shall simply place an asterix next to said entries. There willbe no fouls simply for a different view point of my own, the same for casinos (ie satoshipoker) run by unpleasant people.

A difference of opinion or a personal dislike is not a good reason to invalidate the list, which should only be for honest casino operations and warning players against scams in the most literal sense.

Regarding lottery and wager sites, well we have recently seen how something good can turn to shit rather quickly with betsofbitco.in, bitbet.is and bitlotto.
Due to the nature of these sites (holding player funds for X amount of time(, i can only see one way forward:
* sites with an outstanding record and operation time of ~6 months shall make the list, no asterix, italics, bold etc.
* new sites which have taken all steps within reason to validate themselves but require an event to complete shall also be added, but with an asterix noting that this site has not completed a full round and been verified and or has not been running for longer than 6 moths with an outstanding record.

With these two points In mind I strongly recommend players only betting what they can afford to lose regardless of the bets outcome and arrive at their own conclusion for the honesty of the site. Many non casino operations have had to step through similar hoops of gaining players trust.

So I shall be re-opening "vintage mems list" trolls have at it, it is and will be a good lesson for me to be able to continue doing something I feel has worth despite a few vocal detractors.
consider this thread purely for spitballing ideas for streamlining the new revision of mems list and of course trolling me.

[Zaih]

I believe the credibility of your gambling list was definitely heavily influenced by the fact that the thread had been around for quite a long time, and as a result had accumulated a decent amount of views & replies.

Starting a new thread will take away from this, and lead to you unfairly sabotaging your rightful credibility.

Why not just edit your original thread completely starting from scratch?

After relaxing and watching the latest episode of GoT I have decided you are correct, thank you for the voice of reason.

Additionally I shall cease my current antagonisms and restore the list to an a-political state, I cannot expect casinos to abstain from strong political point of views if I do not do so myself. In cases that I find extreme, eg the blog posts by micrea of MPEx I shall simply place an asterix next to said entries. There willbe no fouls simply for a different view point of my own, the same for casinos (ie satoshipoker) run by unpleasant people.

A difference of opinion or a personal dislike is not a good reason to invalidate the list, which should only be for honest casino operations and warning players against scams in the most literal sense.

Regarding lottery and wager sites, well we have recently seen how something good can turn to shit rather quickly with betsofbitco.in, bitbet.is and bitlotto.
Due to the nature of these sites (holding player funds for X amount of time(, i can only see one way forward:
* sites with an outstanding record and operation time of ~6 months shall make the list, no asterix, italics, bold etc.
* new sites which have taken all steps within reason to validate themselves but require an event to complete shall also be added, but with an asterix noting that this site has not completed a full round and been verified and or has not been running for longer than 6 moths with an outstanding record.

With these two points In mind I strongly recommend players only betting what they can afford to lose regardless of the bets outcome and arrive at their own conclusion for the honesty of the site. Many non casino operations have had to step through similar hoops of gaining players trust.

So I shall be re-opening "vintage mems list" trolls have at it, it is and will be a good lesson for me to be able to continue doing something I feel has worth despite a few vocal detractors.
consider this thread purely for spitballing ideas for streamlining the new revision of mems list and of course trolling me.

Well this is a pleasant ending to the short lived drama. Great to see.

[darkmule]

Welcome To the list (WIP).

Frankly, you appear to be stating that this will no longer be a list of sites where you can get a fair wager, but instead, will be a list of people you like and don't like for personal reasons.  That seriously degrades its value as a resource.

[mem]

Welcome To the list (WIP).

Frankly, you appear to be stating that this will no longer be a list of sites where you can get a fair wager, but instead, will be a list of people you like and don't like for personal reasons.  That seriously degrades its value as a resource.

wrong, please read this post here:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=203763.msg2130718#msg2130718

specifically:

A difference of opinion or a personal dislike is not a good reason to invalidate the list, which should only be for honest casino operations and warning players against scams in the most literal sense.

[evoorhees]

Addressing the blatant lies directed at me and fending off ridiculous accusations (lol mem is paid by BFL, BitBet.us, SealsWithClubs.eu, CrackDice, to shill (I wish I was)) is consuming to much of my time currently.

I know how you feel. Sucks when people lie about you and perpetuate ridiculous accusations, doesn't it?