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Looks like bitcoin is starting to look life fiat more and more. We have banks (online wallets), a central bank (the devs) , a banking cartel (miners) and now free money printed out of thin air.
It has all to do with the freedom people enjoy here. In most cases it's all positive, but in some cases the freedom that Bitcoin gets praised for, is also a factor that might work against Bitcoin. The only thing that isn't centralized are the coins that you have stored offline. Everything else is centralized in one way or another, but hey, in most cases we still have the freedom to go with whatever we want. No one forces us to do something we don't want. ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif)
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BCC shitcoin will get dumped hard. I'll take the free money though ![Wink](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/wink.gif) Looks like bitcoin is starting to look life fiat more and more. We have banks (online wallets), a central bank (the devs) , a banking cartel (miners) and now free money printed out of thin air. This has been like this since the beginning. It started with litecoin to be more accurate. Every altcoin is a bitcoin fork actually. You may even call them airdrops ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) bcc is no different than the other alts. Agreed with the rest tho. The only truly decentralized currency is gold coins but they are not practical in everyday use. Bitcoin is experimental anyways enjoy the ride while it lasts.
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July 25, 2017, 09:45:07 PM |
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The only truly decentralized currency is gold coins but they are not practical in everyday use.
Basically every object/asset that offers a total form of decentralization is suffering from various inconveniences. If we look at what gold is mainly being used for, then it's for long term store of value purposes. In some cases it's not always doing a proper job in that regard, but for people being interested solely in gold there is no other option. Positive aspect of gold is that governments such a Russia are stacking up gold in massive quantities. I don't see this trend reversing in the coming 5-10 years. It will be well worth keeping an eye on gold.
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BSV is not the real Bcash. Bcash is the real Bcash.
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July 25, 2017, 09:57:17 PM |
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Looks like bitcoin is starting to look life fiat more and more. We have banks (online wallets), a central bank (the devs) , a banking cartel (miners) and now free money printed out of thin air.
Bullshit. Devs do not have power to decide how scaling is implemented. This is why we have a consensus system. And BCC is not "free money printed out of thin air", it's a 1:1 fork of BTC with a different block size and different characteristics. If we went by your logic I could create fifty 1:1 forks of BTC and claim that they're all "real" Bitcoin. But they're all completely separate things which only the free market gives value, and they're not an increase of supply at all. Online wallets also do not give out loans in which they conjure money out of thin air, and the coins that you hold in an online wallet are at least supposed to represent real coins that the wallet provider holds, whereas in a banking system the digital money does not represent real cash, and the real cash does not represent real assets. They're simply not comparable at all. Every altcoin is a bitcoin fork actually. You may even call them airdrops ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) bcc is no different than the other alts. Even more bullshit than what he said. LTC is a separate altcoin with a separate blockchain. BCC is copying the blockchain at the time of the fork and can be accessed from BTC private keys. BCC could be regarded as an "airdrop" (I would not consider it that), but LTC most certainly could not because people have to buy into the completely new coin.
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July 25, 2017, 11:06:58 PM |
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BCC shitcoin will get dumped hard. I'll take the free money though ![Wink](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/wink.gif) Agree, people will sell immediately if they get free money from bitcoin branch which named bitcoin cash or maybe they should named it 'bitcoin crash currency'. But I doubt more exchanges will list this coin if they feel it maybe inflict a financial loss, and so far just viabtc announced support BCC. Digital currency price will be determined by its usability, none of altcoins could compare or compete with bitcoin, altcoins will always become trading object including BCC.
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July 26, 2017, 03:01:15 AM |
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I read some email from crypto-games earlier that they not going to support BCC, but they are going to pay out BCC to investors and players, don't get them ![Undecided](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/undecided.gif) , anyways little bit off-topic but its related to BCC too that's why I opened it here.
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July 26, 2017, 06:22:11 AM |
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They are broken any morale limit it seems. But still the world of bitcoin as we know it today is going to end in a couple of days.
I cant imagine a day without a bitcoin transaction. In the last 4 years I did not became a rich person even if I was an early user but change the way i am seeing money transfer and world economy.
With these changes bitcoin will be a totally new thing and I really think that now both coins can reach 100k in the next 3-4 years. So start to buy now the new tokens.
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July 26, 2017, 01:27:54 PM |
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Looks like bitcoin is starting to look life fiat more and more. We have banks (online wallets), a central bank (the devs) , a banking cartel (miners) and now free money printed out of thin air.
Bullshit. Devs do not have power to decide how scaling is implemented. This is why we have a consensus system. And BCC is not "free money printed out of thin air", it's a 1:1 fork of BTC with a different block size and different characteristics. If we went by your logic I could create fifty 1:1 forks of BTC and claim that they're all "real" Bitcoin. But they're all completely separate things which only the free market gives value, and they're not an increase of supply at all. Online wallets also do not give out loans in which they conjure money out of thin air, and the coins that you hold in an online wallet are at least supposed to represent real coins that the wallet provider holds, whereas in a banking system the digital money does not represent real cash, and the real cash does not represent real assets. They're simply not comparable at all. 1) Oh but they have the power. They just proven that to the entire world. Choose one. Either republicans or democrats , segwit or bitcoincash. 2) What is being done is introducing a new currency on top of another one. Just like a lot of countries did, with success stories like "plano real" or in 99% failure of the entire system. 3) Online wallets have control over you money. Just like banks. And if a bank fails your money are somewhat insured. If inputs.io goes down.... we now what happened
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What happens if i sold my bcc pre tokem and bcc won't fork?
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July 27, 2017, 06:59:38 PM |
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What happens if i sold my bcc pre tokem and bcc won't fork?
They will 100% release the Bitcoin Cash fork. But... in case they don't, you would probably get your frozen Bitcoins back and nothing would have changed.
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July 27, 2017, 07:40:31 PM |
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What happens if i sold my bcc pre tokem and bcc won't fork?
They will 100% release the Bitcoin Cash fork. But... in case they don't, you would probably get your frozen Bitcoins back and nothing would have changed. Thank you for answer mate ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif)
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July 27, 2017, 11:31:29 PM |
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they are playing good game but they will die immediately. market will not let them. we will see next week.
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July 28, 2017, 01:58:23 AM |
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The logo is nearly the same? Wth is this?
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July 28, 2017, 08:16:22 AM |
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BCC shitcoin will get dumped hard. I'll take the free money though ![Wink](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/wink.gif) Agree, people will sell immediately if they get free money from bitcoin branch which named bitcoin cash or maybe they should named it 'bitcoin crash currency'. But I doubt more exchanges will list this coin if they feel it maybe inflict a financial loss, and so far just viabtc announced support BCC. Digital currency price will be determined by its usability, none of altcoins could compare or compete with bitcoin, altcoins will always become trading object including BCC. You are greatly underestimating the other currencies. I think it is too early to say that Bitcoin Cash will not have value, many people will not dump their Bitcoin Cash ... people are greedy but many people learned the lesson of the altcoins that had an increase in the price astronomical, so i think many people will not dump their Bitcoin Cash and many exchanges will support Bitcoin Cash in the future.
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they are playing good game but they will die immediately. market will not let them. we will see next week.
Yes we are gonna see a big dump and very big price dip in BCC, and it will continue like etc.
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July 28, 2017, 03:16:00 PM |
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they are playing good game but they will die immediately. market will not let them. we will see next week.
Yes we are gonna see a big dump and very big price dip in BCC, and it will continue like etc. Probably that is their plan for a big dump pump and dump. Once everybody will dump their bcc it will be easier for them to raise the coin 2x or 3x times with the amount of BTC they have at their disposal. And once people see a coin going high they tend to forget the history of the coin and start buying like crazy sheep.
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