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Author Topic: [ANN] Bitcoin Cash - Pro on-chain scaling - Cheaper fees  (Read 704492 times)
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November 14, 2017, 11:55:11 PM
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Core BTC/SHIT Coin Still 100015 Unconfirmed Transactions

My bitcoin transaction has been stuck for more than 12 hours now : https://blockchain.info/tx/1f15ef9777583192ae469a961f63d2d9be57d0d7524740ab7eb10206efd75e0a

Whats the best option? There is not enough BTC so i can't double spend. I have permission of receiver to withdraw funds if required because the receiver is still waiting for 1 confirmation.

Especially in these P&D times people tend to claim that bitcoin is "the only one". The one coin that is "far better" than anything else. "No one can beat bitcoin"... and so on. For me, that's just blabla. I tolerate that the holders and early adpoters will always stick with it and will always promote it. But technically, there are far better products.

So, here is my question. In a technical way, what makes bitcoin special? / What makes it special compared to other blockchain projects?

A hint from my side; it CAN NOT be:

Transaction time
Transaction fees
Anonymity
Scalability

... because there are enough projects out there that are ahead of bitcoin when it comes to these points.

Thanks in advance!



We should start betting on how long it will take to get back to a few thousand.
Here https://www.betmoose.com/bet/will-bitcoin-cash-beat-bitcoin-3619#bets-1

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November 15, 2017, 12:22:39 AM
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Looks like it is starting to sink in, that core btc is shit

Network getting worst....there still about 90K unconfirmed transaction and transactions cost become so high.

If this keep happening, price will drop into shit soon....it could lead price to below 5K soon
There seem no way to solve this network problem, transaction per-second more higher than bitcoin network can handle.

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November 15, 2017, 12:40:30 AM
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Any news about the renegade 2X fork? The big players postponed the fork but some renegade group was going to go ahead anyway? Coming up now within 24h? Btc pumping now and bch going down.
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November 15, 2017, 12:41:48 AM
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Any news about the renegade 2X fork? The big players postponed the fork but some renegade group was going to go ahead anyway? Coming up now within 24h? Btc pumping now and bch going down.
is this the flipping everyone is talking about?

$100,000 BTC in one hour
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November 15, 2017, 12:46:06 AM
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Probably yes, flipping flip-flops.
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November 15, 2017, 12:47:38 AM
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Looks like it is starting to sink in, that core btc is shit

Network getting worst....there still about 90K unconfirmed transaction and transactions cost become so high.

If this keep happening, price will drop into shit soon....it could lead price to below 5K soon
There seem no way to solve this network problem, transaction per-second more higher than bitcoin network can handle.


The markets seem to disagree at the moment, Bitcoin is recovering at a fast pace with large volume. The effect of Bitcoin Cash may have worn off. I was hoping it would beat some sense of urgency into Bitcoin Core but we need a bigger drop for that.
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November 15, 2017, 12:51:17 AM
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Did they fork the fork?  Why would anyone use this over Litecoin given that the vast majority of people using bch are traders and very few normal people even know about it.
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November 15, 2017, 12:54:35 AM
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Did they fork the fork?  Why would anyone use this over Litecoin given that the vast majority of people using bch are traders and very few normal people even know about it.

The name, the fact Roger Ver owns Bitcoin.com and can advertise Bitcoin Cash on it as the real Bitcoin, and the influence of Bitmain.
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November 15, 2017, 12:55:31 AM
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Looks like it is starting to sink in, that core btc is shit

Network getting worst....there still about 90K unconfirmed transaction and transactions cost become so high.

If this keep happening, price will drop into shit soon....it could lead price to below 5K soon
There seem no way to solve this network problem, transaction per-second more higher than bitcoin network can handle.


The markets seem to disagree at the moment, Bitcoin is recovering at a fast pace with large volume. The effect of Bitcoin Cash may have worn off. I was hoping it would beat some sense of urgency into Bitcoin Core but we need a bigger drop for that.

Recovery shit,

It was $7385 , it is still a fail at below that.
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November 15, 2017, 12:57:10 AM
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Why bitcoin cash is dropping again? I bought at 0.25 btc but now is 0.18 btc? Bitcoin has 90k unconfirmed transactions but BCH is going down? Maybe the whales sold too much?
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November 15, 2017, 12:59:10 AM
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Why bitcoin cash is dropping again? I bought at 0.25 btc but now is 0.18 btc? Bitcoin has 90k unconfirmed transactions but BCH is going down? Maybe the whales sold too much?

patience dear friend... the cashening is upon us. witness its glory.

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November 15, 2017, 01:01:22 AM
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Did they fork the fork?  Why would anyone use this over Litecoin given that the vast majority of people using bch are traders and very few normal people even know about it.

The name, the fact Roger Ver owns Bitcoin.com and can advertise Bitcoin Cash on it as the real Bitcoin, and the influence of Bitmain.

Hopefully he doesn't deceive people without telling innocent users they aren't actually buying BTC but an altcoin.
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November 15, 2017, 01:02:52 AM
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https://cointelegraph.com/news/how-close-did-bitcoin-get-to-disastrous-chain-death-spiral   Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy

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The danger of losing a large amount of hashing power for Bitcoin is that it could trigger a chain death spiral.
Many feel that as a market, there is nothing that can stop Bitcoin, but that is a surface-view under the hood, things are a little more fragile.
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November 15, 2017, 01:03:41 AM
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Hopefully he doesn't deceive people without telling innocent users they aren't actually buying BTC but an altcoin.

some think he's a dick but he's not that much of a dick. there are two price tickers on there and nowhere is there a bait and switch. they'll just carry on subtly upping its presence on there.
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November 15, 2017, 01:06:25 AM
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Did they fork the fork?  Why would anyone use this over Litecoin given that the vast majority of people using bch are traders and very few normal people even know about it.

The name, the fact Roger Ver owns Bitcoin.com and can advertise Bitcoin Cash on it as the real Bitcoin, and the influence of Bitmain.

Hopefully he doesn't deceive people without telling innocent users they aren't actually buying BTC but an altcoin.

There is no way that anyone would be tricked into buying BCH while thinking they are buying BTC... Where would that happen? "normies" dont trade altcoins on alt exchanges. and as it stands, there is no place to purchase BCH with fiat directly. This meme is so overplayed its ridiculous.

BCH has legitimately grown its market cap to where it is at today. If this was some malicious PnD, then the price would have returned to where it started (around 300USD)

Just stop with the seriously flawed narrative the small blockers are trying to perpetuate.

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November 15, 2017, 01:10:26 AM
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Hopefully he doesn't deceive people without telling innocent users they aren't actually buying BTC but an altcoin.

some think he's a dick but he's not that much of a dick. there are two price tickers on there and nowhere is there a bait and switch. they'll just carry on subtly upping its presence on there.


Those same asshats , used to call him Bitcoin Jesus because he did so much for bitcoin.

And when he wanted to improve the coin, those very same asshats turned on him.

Roger been a straight shooter and does not want the users to pay insane fees or wait weeks for transactions to happen.

Now he works to make Bitcoin Cash the #1 coin and the Laws of Economics is on his side.

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November 15, 2017, 01:10:37 AM
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If this was some malicious PnD, then the price would have returned to where it started (around 300USD)

it's not the typical alt pump and dump. because it was so huge it could take a few weeks to work its way back down. anyone who assumes this is the new normal might get bitten hard.
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November 15, 2017, 01:16:16 AM
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If this was some malicious PnD, then the price would have returned to where it started (around 300USD)

it's not the typical alt pump and dump. because it was so huge it could take a few weeks to work its way back down. anyone who assumes this is the new normal might get bitten hard.

Man, i couldnt disagree with you more, however everyone is entitled to their own opinion on the matter. I suppose we will just have to wait and see.

I personally am bullish on the fact that the free market will find BCH more useful, and because of this, will inevitably switch to calling it bitcoin. This is an unprecedented situation in the history of crypto, so for someone to say something like "never happened, never will" is just utter nonsense.

I could make the argument that BTC is actually the alt coin here based on SN's whitepaper and the implementation of SegWit corrupting the original code.


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November 15, 2017, 01:22:31 AM
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If this was some malicious PnD, then the price would have returned to where it started (around 300USD)

it's not the typical alt pump and dump. because it was so huge it could take a few weeks to work its way back down. anyone who assumes this is the new normal might get bitten hard.


It is not a typical PnD, because it never was a PnD!

Your wishful thinking is wrong. You been whining it was going to drop since it was $350 ,

how much money has your stupidity cost investors that actually listen to your whining.

Read the btc forums, for the 1st time ever btc owners are scared and they should be ,
because the fundamentals point to Bitcoin Cash being the #1 coin after all it is The Real Bitcoin.

Segshitcoin is going to die, they feel it , and because most don't understand economics they can't really understand it, but they are feeling it and know it to be true.
Segshit time is limited and it dies because it's fees are too high and transactions time too long , basically broken.

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November 15, 2017, 01:24:23 AM
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Did they fork the fork?  Why would anyone use this over Litecoin given that the vast majority of people using bch are traders and very few normal people even know about it.

The name, the fact Roger Ver owns Bitcoin.com and can advertise Bitcoin Cash on it as the real Bitcoin, and the influence of Bitmain.

Hopefully he doesn't deceive people without telling innocent users they aren't actually buying BTC but an altcoin.

There is no way that anyone would be tricked into buying BCH while thinking they are buying BTC... Where would that happen? "normies" dont trade altcoins on alt exchanges. and as it stands, there is no place to purchase BCH with fiat directly. This meme is so overplayed its ridiculous.

BCH has legitimately grown its market cap to where it is at today. If this was some malicious PnD, then the price would have returned to where it started (around 300USD)

Just stop with the seriously flawed narrative the small blockers are trying to perpetuate.

LOL the price went from 350 to over 2350 in 14 days - that's a rise of approx. 34 billion in value followed by a 10+ billion drop in a day.  Based on - a fork of a fork - satoshi's m8 Tweets BCH is what he has been working on since '10 or did I miss some huge news along the way?  

Here's how innocent user A ends up with BCH rather than BTC - they are redirected to the exchange and they see Bitcoin, Bitcoin Cash, Bitcoin Gold - after some googling they come across an infestation of idiots who bought BCH at 300$ who are saying "GUIZE BCH IS THE REAL BTC" because they are desperate to make their x% profit.  This isn't a handful of people - thousands of idiots are spamming message boards, reddit etc. spouting this nonsense.

I have no dog in this race either - I hold altcoins that I did purchase using BTC but if BTC is overtaken or dies for the 500th time I can simply withdraw my altcoins and trade them for whatever the leading cryptocurrency is.
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