The lagest Bitcoin mixer is about to stop working

[European Central Bank]

And here we go , the clone is born:




https://bitmixor.io/
vs
https://bitmixer.io/


Whois Record for BitMixOr.io

Dates   Created on 2017-07-23 - Expires on 2018-07-23 - Updated on 2017-07-23

Website Title     BITMIXER.IO | High Volume Bitcoin Mixer

There were already hundreds of clones. The problem is not one was legit.

[operator55]

He got caught today. thanks for your service Sir!

https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/europe/russian-wanted-in-us-caught-in-greece-for-money-laundering/2017/07/26/13d912a2-71ef-11e7-8c17-533c52b2f014_story.html?utm_term=.dd36e8531833

Maybe this is a conscious mistake from police ;-) So we can't match service with author.

Anyway there's no other bitcoin mixer which went down in this time.
The timing of article/arrest, matches perfectly with bitmixer statement timing.

He was prolly arrested maybe month ago or something, same case as Alphabay.

[hilariousetc]

For someone who gets paid to post and earnings are sent through the gambling site (Bitsler) like me, I use a mixer because my local exchange site does not allow BTCs coming from gambling sites (they will suspend my account or close my account) and known HYIPs that's why I am dumbfounded by Bitmixers decision and might look for other alternatives that offers same service with same level of trust earned by Bitmixer.

There are always legitimate uses of such services, but of course nefarious people will also (ab)use them. I don't think there was anything inherently wrong or illegal with bitmixer or other such tumbling services, but of course that wont stop the USG coming after them.

Anyway, so what happens with the signature campaign now? is it still running?

No, of course not. Why would it? Lauda already announced it was closed.

He got caught today. thanks for your service Sir!

https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/europe/russian-wanted-in-us-caught-in-greece-for-money-laundering/2017/07/26/13d912a2-71ef-11e7-8c17-533c52b2f014_story.html?utm_term=.dd36e8531833

Where does it say anything about Bitmixer?

[ChipMixer]

Anyway there's no other bitcoin mixer which went down in this time.
The timing of article/arrest, matches perfectly with bitmixer statement timing.

He was prolly arrested maybe month ago or something, same case as Alphabay.

"Money laundering" is defined very broad by law enforcement. Buying bitcoins at localbitcoins could be persecuted as laundering.

[Termin4tor]

He got caught today. thanks for your service Sir!

https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/europe/russian-wanted-in-us-caught-in-greece-for-money-laundering/2017/07/26/13d912a2-71ef-11e7-8c17-533c52b2f014_story.html?utm_term=.dd36e8531833

thats the fate waiting for masternodes operators is the US.

That's really sad. Bitmixer was arguably one of the best services to exist on this forum for the bitcoin community. Sure it was definitely being used by criminals to mask their identity but there would have been a pack of other legitimate users, using it for their privacy. Hope the guy is released on bail or something. Moreover, I guess this news serves as warning for other services such as chipmixer.

[Joel_Jantsen]

He got caught today. thanks for your service Sir!

https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/europe/russian-wanted-in-us-caught-in-greece-for-money-laundering/2017/07/26/13d912a2-71ef-11e7-8c17-533c52b2f014_story.html?utm_term=.dd36e8531833

Stop the FUD.
It doesn't say anything about Bitmixer or the arrested guy.Although there is a possibility they could be under legal pressure but you just can't jump to conclusions when they made it clear it's out of their own wish.
->DirectBet Shuts down
->BitMixer Shuts down
->Alphabay Shuts down

Can you see some patterns here ?

[shield132]

Don't worry, we didn't keep logs, we deleted all used wallets, our servers never been seized, we had very strong mixing algorithm. We never collaborated with feds. All our clients are protected. We did our work honesty as described.

About "I'm not a criminal. Why should I mix my coins?". I really believed in this years ago. But look, in 2016 we mixed about 1M bitcoins. What do you think what part of this sum was non criminal? I don't know, we provided just a tool and didn't ask from what source coins coming. But I guess not all of them was clean. I really don't want to earn helping criminals. It is not only personal. Bitcoin couldn't be accepted by general public and governments if it is a crime tool. No, no, no. Fortunately last years appeared special anonymous cryptocurrencies for this purpose. But Bitcoin has another big aims. It is a finance revolution, but not a crime finance revolution.

I want to say that bitmixer was great website with really a lot of profit, imagine minimum 0.5% of 1 million bitcoin, so much...
There is no doubt that it was hardest decision for you to close bitmixer, it's like burning money machine... and even more...
Also you know that 99% of mixed coins would be for criminal activities, despite the fact that you are "privacy expert" as you claim, you took good decision, hang on profit if it will be reason of being in jail.

Also I want to say to all mixers: No one of you could beat bitmixer and if they decided to close bitmixer.io believe me, it's better for you to follow their step and get rid of bad future.

[Gleb Gamow]

I'm member of team which runs a mixing service as well. The service runs since 2015. When we started, the legal status of bitcoin was similar to "credit in a videogame". Since then, the legal status of bitcoin changed and many governments push for regulations and KYC policies. Unfortunately, bitcoin still doesn't provide sufficient privacy for ordinary users.

I think that our colleges from bitmixer decided that it is not worth the risk and discontinued the service. I understand their decision and wish them good luck.

We will keep CoinMixer running for now and keep an eye on the situation.

Exactly what risk is at stake for an unknown person(s) operating a profitable coin mixing service from some Nation State outside the US? We have no idea who the principals are but they have fear of being caught? Meanwhile, Paul Vernon, a known and recognizable person is somewhere in China, whereabouts known by at least local authorities there if abiding by visa guidelines, freely walks the streets sans fear of being extradited back to the US to face myriad charges.

[kalodu]

And here we go , the clone is born:




https://bitmixor.io/
vs
https://bitmixer.io/


Whois Record for BitMixOr.io

Dates   Created on 2017-07-23 - Expires on 2018-07-23 - Updated on 2017-07-23

Website Title     BITMIXER.IO | High Volume Bitcoin Mixer

If its legit and they actually do the service I don't see a problem, someone needs to fill the gap.

[Reid]

Anyway. Still a big thanks to the Bitmixer company. You did help a lot of bitcoin users.
It seems like there is pressure with his words when I read his posts.
He is just using some reasons for it to look like it aint that big. But it is really obvious it is big.
If the authority is pressuring him then we cannot do anything about it anymore.
His decision then we respect that.

[Quickseller]

He got caught today. thanks for your service Sir!

https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/europe/russian-wanted-in-us-caught-in-greece-for-money-laundering/2017/07/26/13d912a2-71ef-11e7-8c17-533c52b2f014_story.html?utm_term=.dd36e8531833

Are you sure this is the bitmixer operator? I have read rumors that this was the btce owner.

[Gleb Gamow]

Anyway. Still a big thanks to the Bitmixer company. You did help a lot of bitcoin users.
It seems like there is pressure with his words when I read his posts.
He is just using some reasons for it to look like it aint that big. But it is really obvious it is big.
If the authority is pressuring him then we cannot do anything about it anymore.
His decision then we respect that.

Fuck the pronouns! Who's the "HE" behind Bitmixer that some 3-LA is pressuring? Did I missed the memo where 3-LA now pressure pronouns behind entities they deem enemies of the State which operate on some foreign soil?

[hilariousetc]

He got caught today. thanks for your service Sir!

https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/europe/russian-wanted-in-us-caught-in-greece-for-money-laundering/2017/07/26/13d912a2-71ef-11e7-8c17-533c52b2f014_story.html?utm_term=.dd36e8531833

Are you sure this is the bitmixer operator? I have read rumors that this was the btce owner.

He's probably just spreading FUD. It is much more likely to be the btc e guy but I've not seen anything concrete so I would disregard it as mere speculation based on rumour right now.

[Gleb Gamow]

He got caught today. thanks for your service Sir!

https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/europe/russian-wanted-in-us-caught-in-greece-for-money-laundering/2017/07/26/13d912a2-71ef-11e7-8c17-533c52b2f014_story.html?utm_term=.dd36e8531833

Are you sure this is the bitmixer operator? I have read rumors that this was the btce owner.

Yep! That makes perfect sense. Start a thread three days ago declaring that you're shutting down, then go to Greece and get picked up by the authorities. 

[Gleb Gamow]

For someone who gets paid to post and earnings are sent through the gambling site (Bitsler) like me, I use a mixer because my local exchange site does not allow BTCs coming from gambling sites (they will suspend my account or close my account) and known HYIPs that's why I am dumbfounded by Bitmixers decision and might look for other alternatives that offers same service with same level of trust earned by Bitmixer.

If Bitsler doesn't allow BTC directly from a gambling site, then first split the BTC from the gambling into another bitcoin wallet address prior to remitting it to Bitsler. It's not rocket science. Surely, Bitsler doesn't look at all the hops a transaction made prior to deposit, do they?

[Gleb Gamow]

I'm member of team which runs a mixing service as well. The service runs since 2015. When we started, the legal status of bitcoin was similar to "credit in a videogame". Since then, the legal status of bitcoin changed and many governments push for regulations and KYC policies. Unfortunately, bitcoin still doesn't provide sufficient privacy for ordinary users.

I think that our colleges from bitmixer decided that it is not worth the risk and discontinued the service. I understand their decision and wish them good luck.

We will keep CoinMixer running for now and keep an eye on the situation.

Exactly what risk is at stake for an unknown person(s) operating a profitable coin mixing service from some Nation State outside the US? We have no idea who the principals are but they have fear of being caught? Meanwhile, Paul Vernon, a known and recognizable person is somewhere in China, whereabouts known by at least local authorities there if abiding by visa guidelines, freely walks the streets sans fear of being extradited back to the US to face myriad charges.

Well, nobody knows for sure. Many international laws were created before the internet even existed. Sometimes it is hard to tell where and when a law applies. In the end, an old judge (who probably doesn't have a clue how internet works) will decide your fate based on what he thinks is right.

Got it! Then the old judge sentences the pronoun to life in prison. Question: Are pronoun prisons unisex?

[Liquid71]

IF running a mixer is illegal then every Dash masternode is running a money laundering service and illegal 

[European Central Bank]

IF running a mixer is illegal then every Dash masternode is running a money laundering service and illegal 

who knows how it's gonna reverberate elsewhere?

i doubt the masternode thing though. too much law enforcement work for only theoretical gains that no court would be interested in.

in this btce guy's case they must have a mass of evidence of direct law breaking.

[Gleb Gamow]

He got caught today. thanks for your service Sir!

https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/europe/russian-wanted-in-us-caught-in-greece-for-money-laundering/2017/07/26/13d912a2-71ef-11e7-8c17-533c52b2f014_story.html?utm_term=.dd36e8531833

Are you sure this is the bitmixer operator? I have read rumors that this was the btce owner.

YEP!

https://www.theverge.com/2017/7/26/16035702/btce-arrest-bitcoin-alexander-vinnik-mt-gox-theft-suspect

Greek police have arrested one of the central figures in the Bitcoin exchange BTC-e on suspicion of money laundering. Russian citizen Alexander Vinnik was arrested in Greece at the request of US law enforcement, according to a Reuters report.

The BTC-e exchange has long been a favorite of criminals, as its headquarters in Russia places it outside the reach of US and European law enforcement. Recent Google research found that 95 percent of ransomware cash-outs occurred through the BTC-e exchange, although it’s unclear whether the exchange itself would be liable for those payments.

Those payments have made BTC-e one of the largest bitcoin exchanges, regularly handling more than 3 percent of total Bitcoin transactions. The exchange has been down since Tuesday evening.

[throwawayme3434534554]

https://www.justice.gov/usao-ndca/pr/russian-national-and-bitcoin-exchange-charged-21-count-indictment-operating-alleged