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Europool here.
Don't pay attention to what the first guy, bitmixer.io, said. It's safe to continue to use Bitcoin mixers. The nonprivate blockchain ensures this. We really can't trace anything on the nonprivate blockchain because we lack the resources to do so. Bitmixer.io is just ignorant.
Our US Government friends, in your best interest, encourage you to continue using Bitcoin mixers, Dash and Zcash. Don't pay attention to their CEO who said they could deanonymise your transactions. He was high that day and was just joking. What a riot!
Look. We don't care how you spend your money. We're only after terrorists but we need to monitor all transactions since we don't know who could be a terrorist. THere's really no way to narrow down a list of possible terrorists, no way at all and you know that's true, so we look at everyone. It's really no big deal though. I mean we can't trace anything anyway.
It's been a long day. I'm off to the pub to see a...get ready for it...mixologist. Wha-what? Because alcohol never hurt anyone but weed is worse than rapists. That's why we let rapists in and kick weed out. Note to self: delete the previous sentence before posting.
Thanks for your cooperation.
There is no private here, all transaction are shown in the blockchain and you need FIAT to have a live. Now every where, any critical store or business already implant "known your customer policy", you hide nowhere. Like chinese proverb said that people afraid of businessman, businessman afraid of government. So you never win against government
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July 29, 2017, 05:56:25 AM |
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Europool here.
Don't pay attention to what the first guy, bitmixer.io, said. It's safe to continue to use Bitcoin mixers. The nonprivate blockchain ensures this. We really can't trace anything on the nonprivate blockchain because we lack the resources to do so. Bitmixer.io is just ignorant.
Our US Government friends, in your best interest, encourage you to continue using Bitcoin mixers, Dash and Zcash. Don't pay attention to their CEO who said they could deanonymise your transactions. He was high that day and was just joking. What a riot!
Look. We don't care how you spend your money. We're only after terrorists but we need to monitor all transactions since we don't know who could be a terrorist. THere's really no way to narrow down a list of possible terrorists, no way at all and you know that's true, so we look at everyone. It's really no big deal though. I mean we can't trace anything anyway.
It's been a long day. I'm off to the pub to see a...get ready for it...mixologist. Wha-what? Because alcohol never hurt anyone but weed is worse than rapists. That's why we let rapists in and kick weed out. Note to self: delete the previous sentence before posting.
Thanks for your cooperation.
There is no private here, all transaction are shown in the blockchain and you need FIAT to have a live. Now every where, any critical store or business already implant "known your customer policy", you hide nowhere. Like chinese proverb said that people afraid of businessman, businessman afraid of government. So you never win against government Looks like the only thing left is to regress back to the barter system ... "I didn't get any bread." "You want bread?" "Yes, please." "Two blowjobs." "But everybody else got bread." "No blowjobs from you for one year! NEXT!" "Kramer, the guy is not a looney tune. Technically, a cucumber is a fruit and as for the prices expressed in fiat, that's just his way of reflecting on the past. Now, are you gonna give me your underwear or not so that I can trade it for some freshly ripe mangos?"
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July 29, 2017, 11:39:37 AM |
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Why anyone will be need clean BTC? Average people enough in bank payment system, they don't need bitcoin, 'cause bitcoin it's not a payment system not quite. Without decentralization and anonimity it will be worst than Visa.
Along with anonymity and decentralized there are a it of other benefits of bitcoins which is making bitcoin much more better than any other payment system or from visa etc. I like bitcoin the most because due to bitcoin the freelancers are sending their money with lowest fees which is very high if paid with banks or other payment processor. It has also enabled the whole world to work the same while before bitcoin there were tiers in the online earning system and some people were not able to access to online earning.
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July 29, 2017, 12:18:33 PM |
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Don't see the point in blaming him.
One of the following:
- It is his own real reason, and he's entitled to do whatever he likes with his business (unlikely) - He received pressure, but obviously he will not say it publicly (possible) - He has read the writing on the wall and decided to leave and enjoy the profits before they put him in jail (likely)
Theres also the chance that Bitmixer was compromised and they have only discovered it recently. All their activities and secrets are known to the government and have no choice but to run and hide.
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July 29, 2017, 01:30:50 PM |
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Interesting how the name of the topic was chosen!
"the largest bitcoin mixer is about to..." . Really interesting, I think you should think about it
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July 29, 2017, 03:06:02 PM |
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Oh well, no more free coins from you I guess, after your partner got arrested in Greece for laundering $4 Billion dollars I would stop my business as well. Can I have the business please? I will provide the funds/coins myself I just need the name plus code and the domain, I will share 30% of the profit for 2 years with you, I could even take the servers in an underground bunker which is nuke proof so no one could ever reach me or my servers. Please don't just throw away years of hard work and reputation which you earned and gained by sweat and blood.
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July 29, 2017, 06:11:15 PM |
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It sucks that bitmixer has stopped operations, you were the best mixer in the industry. I don't blame you for shutting down, your freedom is more important. I hope to see you involved in other projects assuming the law does not find a way to drag you into their mess.
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July 29, 2017, 08:29:53 PM |
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From bitmixer.io site : BitMixer has a huge reserve of Bitcoins already in its system. May be i'm paranoid but is there a possibility that you had any connection with btc-e ? Because i think that your large reserve of Bitcoins (mixed) could only come from there and you stopped your service, two days later btc-e went down. May be you were aware that something like that will happen. For me there are too much coincidences. If you have any link with btc-e please help us to recover our money.
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July 29, 2017, 10:06:45 PM |
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From bitmixer.io site : BitMixer has a huge reserve of Bitcoins already in its system. May be i'm paranoid but is there a possibility that you had any connection with btc-e ? Because i think that your large reserve of Bitcoins (mixed) could only come from there and you stopped your service, two days later btc-e went down. May be you were aware that something like that will happen. For me there are too much coincidences. If you have any link with btc-e please help us to recover our money. So yet another exchange service ran away with people's money just like that? I didn't know about it until now reading from your post, I must get in to it then. BTW, I think Bitblender and Chipmonkeys now are celebrating because their main competitor backed off shut down just like that, smart move would be for them to double their advertisements to saturate the net as Bitmixer's only legit replacements.
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From bitmixer.io site : BitMixer has a huge reserve of Bitcoins already in its system. May be i'm paranoid but is there a possibility that you had any connection with btc-e ? Because i think that your large reserve of Bitcoins (mixed) could only come from there and you stopped your service, two days later btc-e went down. May be you were aware that something like that will happen. For me there are too much coincidences. If you have any link with btc-e please help us to recover our money. So yet another exchange service ran away with people's money just like that? I didn't know about it until now reading from your post, I must get in to it then. BTW, I think Bitblender and Chipmonkeys now are celebrating because their main competitor backed off shut down just like that, smart move would be for them to double their advertisements to saturate the net as Bitmixer's only legit replacements. That's what I would do starting with Google adwords. The process to participate on said platform is simple. First, provide Google with your name and ... See where I'm goin' with this?
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July 30, 2017, 03:55:43 AM |
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The government pressure doesn't work like "Oh man please close your service!". No way. They just come and arrest you for illegal activity. We are the privacy experts, it is hard or impossible to find out our location and personality, our servers are located in the country where Bitcoin is not considered as a currency, etc, etc. I could sell the business for our competitors for $5-6M, but I will not do this. It is important that you understand my position. I really revised my view about Bitcoin as a transparent system. Bitcoin has no future with drug/weapon traffic or any other illegal activity. This is my point.
Your competitors will get your business for much cheaper, and as such it's admirable that you stay true to your new found beliefs as you close this chapter of your life with Bitcoin. You could easily take one last pay day with a sale...it's uncharacteristic of "business man" to avoid such an easy arrangement. Given that you are the self proclaimed "privacy experts", it would be interesting to see how you use that expertise with Bitcoin in a manner that supports your beliefs for what Bitcoin should be used for. I hope you're not abandoning Bitcoin all together. Good luck to you.
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The government pressure doesn't work like "Oh man please close your service!". No way. They just come and arrest you for illegal activity. We are the privacy experts, it is hard or impossible to find out our location and personality, our servers are located in the country where Bitcoin is not considered as a currency, etc, etc. I could sell the business for our competitors for $5-6M, but I will not do this. It is important that you understand my position. I really revised my view about Bitcoin as a transparent system. Bitcoin has no future with drug/weapon traffic or any other illegal activity. This is my point.
My Take 1: You use "like" like a quasi-colloquialism indigenous to the US (Western World) given the context. What's your mother tongue again? My Take 2: In re "privacy experts" you best hope that you only accessed this USELESS <according to Leroy Fodor> forum via Tor, albeit even then you're vulnerable according to learned privacy experts.
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July 31, 2017, 09:17:44 PM |
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Hi all! Despite the huge profit we earn, we are closing our activity. Let me explain why.
I'm bitcoin enthusiast since 2011. When we started this service I was convinced that any Bitcoin user has a natural right to privacy. I was totally wrong. Now I grasped that Bitcoin is transparent non-anonymous system by design. Blockchain is a great open book. I believe that Bitcoin will have a great future without dark market transactions. You may use Dash or Zerocoin if you want to buy some weed. Not Bitcoin.
I hope our decision will help to make Bitcoin ecosystem more clean and transparent. I hope our competitors will hear our message and will close their services too. Very soon this kind of activity will be considered as illegal in most of countries.
Cheers, Bitmixer.IO
You mean cocaine or meth? What a stereotypical person. Alcohol destroy lives everyday why is this not banned?
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Hi all! Despite the huge profit we earn, we are closing our activity. Let me explain why.
I'm bitcoin enthusiast since 2011. When we started this service I was convinced that any Bitcoin user has a natural right to privacy. I was totally wrong. Now I grasped that Bitcoin is transparent non-anonymous system by design. Blockchain is a great open book. I believe that Bitcoin will have a great future without dark market transactions. You may use Dash or Zerocoin if you want to buy some weed. Not Bitcoin.
I hope our decision will help to make Bitcoin ecosystem more clean and transparent. I hope our competitors will hear our message and will close their services too. Very soon this kind of activity will be considered as illegal in most of countries.
Cheers, Bitmixer.IO
Translated: My pastor told me to abandon this business, so if you wanna buy weed use Dash or Zerocoin; for accessing underage porn sites, use Ether or Monero; for purchasing weapons off the darknet, use DarkCoin; for buying peaches from Georgia, use CarterCoin; to donate to your place of worship, use JesusCoin.
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August 03, 2017, 06:21:17 AM |
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From what i see,
Bitmixer is just too afraid of being jailed after btc-e's admin got caught.
He is now acting like a tough guy but nobody is perfect, everybody does mistakes and %100 anonymity is not possible.
Since bitmixer was an automated service, who knows how much btc they cleaned up over the years. btc-e itself got rekt for the same reason and If i were operating bitmixer.io, I would be scared either. So, no judging you or whatsoever.
I used your services and enjoyed it very much.
Good luck.
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From what i see,
Bitmixer is just too afraid of being jailed after btc-e's admin got caught.
He is now acting like a tough guy but nobody is perfect, everybody does mistakes and %100 anonymity is not possible.
Since bitmixer was an automated service, who knows how much btc they cleaned up over the years. btc-e itself got rekt for the same reason and If i were operating bitmixer.io, I would be scared either. So, no judging you or whatsoever.
I used your services and enjoyed it very much.
Good luck.
Hi all! Despite the huge profit we earn, we are closing our activity. Let me explain why.
I'm bitcoin enthusiast since 2011. When we started this service I was convinced that any Bitcoin user has a natural right to privacy. I was totally wrong. Now I grasped that Bitcoin is transparent non-anonymous system by design. Blockchain is a great open book. I believe that Bitcoin will have a great future without dark market transactions. You may use Dash or Zerocoin if you want to buy some weed. Not Bitcoin.
I hope our decision will help to make Bitcoin ecosystem more clean and transparent. I hope our competitors will hear our message and will close their services too. Very soon this kind of activity will be considered as illegal in most of countries.
Cheers, Bitmixer.IO
I guess that's why you make the big bucks via posting wonderful insight in satisfying your sig campaign commitment, eh? So sage one, Bitmixer closed up shop because they were "just too afraid of being jailed after btc-e's admin got caught" you say? Here's a question that only you can answer: If Bitmixer closed up shop on July 23 and Vinnik of BTC-e was arrested on July 25, thus negating your "wonderful insight", exactly what universe do you call home where the aforementioned is true? Feel free to consult with any of universal buds prior to answering so that you don't flunk this pop quiz. BTW, nice sig, bud. Is that one of the better paying campaigns currently available?
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August 03, 2017, 06:46:55 AM |
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I guess that's why you make the big bucks via posting wonderful insight in satisfying your sig campaign commitment, eh?
So sage one, Bitmixer closed up shop because they were "just too afraid of being jailed after btc-e's admin got caught" you say?
Here's a question that only you can answer: If Bitmixer closed up shop on July 23 and Vinnik of BTC-e was arrested on July 25, thus negating your "wonderful insight", exactly what universe do you call home where the aforementioned is true? Feel free to consult with any of universal buds prior to answering so that you don't flunk this pop quiz.
BTW, nice sig, bud. Is that one of the better paying campaigns currently available?
btc-e's situation started way before that date. And when you are in a business that big, you may gather information way before the others. See this news? http://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-cyber-idUSKBN1A51UZIt is from 20th July. Now you know why they decided it on 23rd. I hope my wonderful insight helped you very much. I wear whatever signature I want! Now Piss Off! edit: Accusing me for being a sig spammer even though the service is over and He is wearing a sig himself. What kind of a hypocrite fuck are you?
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I guess that's why you make the big bucks via posting wonderful insight in satisfying your sig campaign commitment, eh?
So sage one, Bitmixer closed up shop because they were "just too afraid of being jailed after btc-e's admin got caught" you say?
Here's a question that only you can answer: If Bitmixer closed up shop on July 23 and Vinnik of BTC-e was arrested on July 25, thus negating your "wonderful insight", exactly what universe do you call home where the aforementioned is true? Feel free to consult with any of universal buds prior to answering so that you don't flunk this pop quiz.
BTW, nice sig, bud. Is that one of the better paying campaigns currently available?
btc-e's situation started way before that date. And when you are in a business that big, you may gather information way before the others. See this news? http://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-cyber-idUSKBN1A51UZIt is from 20th July. Now you know why they decided it on 23rd. I hope my wonderful insight helped you very much. I wear whatever signature I want! Now Piss Off! edit: Accusing me for being a sig spammer even though the service is over and He is wearing a sig himself. What kind of a hypocrite fuck are you? What a fuckin moron! I don't give a shit if Bitmixer was pissing blood days prior to him having dinner with his pastor who informed him to stop the business. My post was in reference to one aspect ONLY penned by ... wait for it .... you. THIS: Bitmixer is just too afraid of being jailed after btc-e's admin got caught. Now scroll back up and reread everything in context, then come back here and apologize to me. Mmmkay? Accusing me for being a sig spammer even though the service is over and He is wearing a sig himself. What kind of a hypocrite fuck are you? If you're talkin' 'bout my sig, you're a bigger moron than first thought. Dude, it's my sig because I own the company regardless if the campaign is active or not.
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Now scroll back up and reread everything in context, then come back here and apologize to me. Mmmkay?
I may got confused the events on the time frame but If you wait for an apology, don't keep your hopes too high. I don't apologize to dick heads. in fact, i'll just put you to my ignore list. You can "hee haw" all you want now.
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Now scroll back up and reread everything in context, then come back here and apologize to me. Mmmkay?
I may got confused the events on the time frame but If you wait for an apologize, don't keep your hopes too high. I don't apologize to dick heads. in fact, i'll just put you to my ignore list. You can "hee haw" all you want now. NO, WAIT! PLEASE DON'T PUT ME ON IGNORE. I'll do anything. I'll even suck your dick while finguring your ass and even give you a reach around. Please, please reconsider, bud. I'm cool. I'll prove it to you if only give me another chance. Dude, look, you even made me cry.
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