[POLL] Should OgNasty be removed as a forum treasurer?

[minifrij]

I don't even know who the remaining treasurers are?

The only living treasurer (other than theymos) is currently OgNasty. paraipan is still holding the forum's Bitcoin, but I don't think I have to say why he isn't relevant. However, the source hasn't been updated in a while so I may be wrong.

[Wendigo]

I don't even know who the remaining treasurers are?

The only living treasurer (other than theymos) is currently OgNasty. paraipan is still holding the forum's Bitcoin, but I don't think I have to say why he isn't relevant. However, the source hasn't been updated in a while so I may be wrong.

Is this the deceased guy? I think I have heard the coins he was holding couldn't be retrieved and were lost a while ago. Or am I mistaken?

[Vod]

The only living treasurer (other than theymos) is currently OgNasty. paraipan is still holding the forum's Bitcoin, but I don't think I have to say why he isn't relevant. However, the source hasn't been updated in a while so I may be wrong.

It doesn't make sense that OgNasty would attempt to scam less than a bitcoin when he presumably holds many bitcoins for the forum.  :/

If it doesn't make sense, then only religious people will believe it.  

[minifrij]

Is this the deceased guy? I think I have heard the coins he was holding couldn't be retrieved and were lost a while ago. Or am I mistaken?

Yes, paraipan passed away in 2014 while holding 250BTC of the forum's money. He is a practical example of when multisig would be helpful.

[TMAN]

The only living treasurer (other than theymos) is currently OgNasty. paraipan is still holding the forum's Bitcoin, but I don't think I have to say why he isn't relevant. However, the source hasn't been updated in a while so I may be wrong.

It doesn't make sense that OgNasty would attempt to scam less than a bitcoin when he presumably holds many bitcoins for the forum.  :/

If it doesn't make sense, then only religious people will believe it.  

Hey VOD glad to see another respected member here. What's your thoughts on multisig over traditional escrow??

[Vod]

What's your thoughts on multisig over traditional escrow??

I will answer this question in the near future. 

[Quickseller]

I don't even know who the remaining treasurers are?

The only living treasurer (other than theymos) is currently OgNasty. paraipan is still holding the forum's Bitcoin, but I don't think I have to say why he isn't relevant. However, the source hasn't been updated in a while so I may be wrong.

You literally need to click on roughly 6 links to get your answer.

[mammabitcoin2u]

Updating my answer to HELL NO he should NOT be removed!!!

I asked about it and no one wanted to answer?  Geez I wonder why    NONE OF YOU, as far as I can see is on that list. Edit: Not even me is on that list. IF you are NOT a DONOR you do NOT have any say. IT'S NOT YOUR BUSINESS.    

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Yeah I read that waste of time thread.  Its so OBVIOUS what that thread was another FAILED attempt.  Read it for yourself and you will find:

Tman has a thing for "cocksucking". I can't even count how many times he kept talking about sucking cock cunts n cum priceless
Tman says things and think it's automatically makes it a bet    He even starts a "countdown".  He also pushes funds to OG and THEN tries to claim he's "self-escrow"  THEN TMan wants a vote from the community about the Bet.  HE LOST and still kept whining lol fuckin passive aggressive loser    Before, I even saw that hot mess, I added YOUR feedback profile as a perfect example.

@Gums the escrow guy made some valid points but obviously if it's valid -Tman doesn't wanna hear it.
@QS you made valid points props to you.
@Lauda I use to think you were impartial, you were not. There is something for you to gain.  IF this "multi-sig" has something to do with adding you on it?  Never should you be allowed anywhere near that fund. Tman and Isoneguy are not buddies, they are in collusion/associates/they are connected.

Attacking & Discrediting OG and THEN trying to get him removed as Treasure lol whatta fuckin joke.  Hell I don't even know the full history of ya'll shit.  But its obvious OGNasty was chosen for a reason & rightly so.

After all this shit tossed at the guy......I TRUST HIM MORE AND YOU ALL LESS.  I'm betting I'm not the only one either.

On behalf of everyone (not the scammers) THANK YOU FOR TRYING TO PULL THIS SHIT IN THE OPEN  

This thread is MOOT edit: MY VOTE DOESN'T MATTER BUT LET IT BE MY OPINION.

[isoneguy]

All I have to say is that OG ripped me off for $700 and I think that's enough for a lawsuit against the forum.

On account that he's such an esteemed member and provides an illegal escrow service for the forum...I feel that's forum business.

He also takes advantage of his esteemed position by creating many alt accounts and spamming the forum with them.

I want to know what was going through Theymos's head because this schmuck has probably built the habit up over many years. Which would be obvious to anyone worth their salt.

[Quickseller]

All I have to say is that OG ripped me off for $700 and I think that's enough for a lawsuit against the forum.

You literally told him to do something and he did exactly that. Before you gave him those instructions he gave you a recommendation as to what to do and you responded with threats.

[isoneguy]

All I have to say is that OG ripped me off for $700 and I think that's enough for a lawsuit against the forum.

You literally told him to do something and he did exactly that. Before you gave him those instructions he gave you a recommendation as to what to do and you responded with threats.

He ignored all my previous instructions on how to provide me with money.

He mishandled my funds.

He forced my hand by only allowing me to choose the thing he wanted me to choose.

How the fuck is this even an issue?

[Quickseller]

All I have to say is that OG ripped me off for $700 and I think that's enough for a lawsuit against the forum.

You literally told him to do something and he did exactly that. Before you gave him those instructions he gave you a recommendation as to what to do and you responded with threats.

He ignored all my previous instructions on how to provide me with money.

He mishandled my funds.

He forced my hand by only allowing me to choose the thing he wanted me to choose.

How the fuck is this even an issue?

I gave you several alternatives regarding how to potentially get your money back. If you did not agree to OgNasty returning the BTC to the coinbase address, then you should not have told him to do that, even if that meant OgNasty holding onto your money longer than you would like.

By giving him instructions that he followed, you went from someone who might have a claim that he owes you money to someone who used his escrow service.

[mammabitcoin2u]

All I have to say is that OG ripped me off for $700 and I think that's enough for a lawsuit against the forum.

You literally told him to do something and he did exactly that. Before you gave him those instructions he gave you a recommendation as to what to do and you responded with threats.

He ignored all my previous instructions on how to provide me with money.

He mishandled my funds.

He forced my hand by only allowing me to choose the thing he wanted me to choose.

How the fuck is this even an issue?

I gave you several alternatives regarding how to potentially get your money back. If you did not agree to OgNasty returning the BTC to the coinbase address, then you should not have told him to do that, even if that meant OgNasty holding onto your money longer than you would like.

By giving him instructions that he followed, you went from someone who might have a claim that he owes you money to someone who used his escrow service.

in·san·i·ty
inˈsanədē/
noun
the state of being seriously mentally ill; madness.
"he suffered from bouts of insanity"
synonyms:   mental illness, madness, dementia; More
extreme foolishness or irrationality.  -taken from Google Search

QS, the guy is nuts you can't talk sense when someone is nuts you say A he says B you say B he says A   and on and on stop feeding the animals  

Edit to add: I'D LOVE to see this "lawsuit" He'd lose but he aint got shit to lose when they counter sue his crazy ass Hell they may even petition to get that straight jacket out.........let's hope hes not in Everett 

[Quickseller]

All I have to say is that OG ripped me off for $700 and I think that's enough for a lawsuit against the forum.

You literally told him to do something and he did exactly that. Before you gave him those instructions he gave you a recommendation as to what to do and you responded with threats.

He ignored all my previous instructions on how to provide me with money.

He mishandled my funds.

He forced my hand by only allowing me to choose the thing he wanted me to choose.

How the fuck is this even an issue?

I gave you several alternatives regarding how to potentially get your money back. If you did not agree to OgNasty returning the BTC to the coinbase address, then you should not have told him to do that, even if that meant OgNasty holding onto your money longer than you would like.

By giving him instructions that he followed, you went from someone who might have a claim that he owes you money to someone who used his escrow service.

in·san·i·ty
inˈsanədē/
noun
the state of being seriously mentally ill; madness.
"he suffered from bouts of insanity"
synonyms:   mental illness, madness, dementia; More
extreme foolishness or irrationality.  -taken from Google Search

QS, the guy is nuts you can't talk sense when someone is nuts you say A he says B you say B he says A  and on and on stop feeding the animals 

Edit to add: I'D LOVE to see this "lawsuit" He'd lose but he aint got shit to lose when they counter sue his crazy ass Hell they may even petition to get that straight jacket out.........let's hope hes not in Everett 

I was hoping to at least help the guy. Just because he may be mentally ill does not mean he deserves to be upset. I was trying to give him good advice, and am now trying to give him a perspective as to the situation he is in.

[mammabitcoin2u]

All I have to say is that OG ripped me off for $700 and I think that's enough for a lawsuit against the forum.

You literally told him to do something and he did exactly that. Before you gave him those instructions he gave you a recommendation as to what to do and you responded with threats.

He ignored all my previous instructions on how to provide me with money.

He mishandled my funds.

He forced my hand by only allowing me to choose the thing he wanted me to choose.

How the fuck is this even an issue?

I gave you several alternatives regarding how to potentially get your money back. If you did not agree to OgNasty returning the BTC to the coinbase address, then you should not have told him to do that, even if that meant OgNasty holding onto your money longer than you would like.

By giving him instructions that he followed, you went from someone who might have a claim that he owes you money to someone who used his escrow service.

in·san·i·ty
inˈsanədē/
noun
the state of being seriously mentally ill; madness.
"he suffered from bouts of insanity"
synonyms:   mental illness, madness, dementia; More
extreme foolishness or irrationality.  -taken from Google Search

QS, the guy is nuts you can't talk sense when someone is nuts you say A he says B you say B he says A  and on and on stop feeding the animals 

Edit to add: I'D LOVE to see this "lawsuit" He'd lose but he aint got shit to lose when they counter sue his crazy ass Hell they may even petition to get that straight jacket out.........let's hope hes not in Everett 

I was hoping to at least help the guy. Just because he may be mentally ill does not mean he deserves to be upset. I was trying to give him good advice, and am now trying to give him a perspective as to the situation he is in.

I'm no saint.  But, I never said or implied because he is mentally ill he should be treated differently or deserves to be "upset".  I've never treated anyone differently OL/RL.  I've seen the worst of the worst.  You got common sense QS you know he's not upset, he's just trying to play that game    If anything he's upset it didn't work 

[Spoetnik]

Who do you suggest be the new treasurer/s then?

theymos.. it's his money no ?

No offense Nasty i have nothing against you or your services.
If he offers a service and users want to use it then so be it.
But i thought of Master-P pretty quick.. you all forget how he ran off with the cash ? 

[TMAN]

morning all - interesting to see that the votes are getting away from OG...  maybe he isn't quite the power house he once was....

the fact that he says that multisig is just too complicated is worrying to me, surely a professional escrow service would go out of its way to protect its clients money..

[Lauda]

IF you are NOT a DONOR you do NOT have any say. IT'S NOT YOUR BUSINESS.    

That does not make sense.

@Lauda I use to think you were impartial, you were not. There is something for you to gain.  IF this "multi-sig" has something to do with adding you on it?  Never should you be allowed anywhere near that fund.

Exactly what did I state which was not impartial? Has someone sent you some false information via PM? Read my posts again. I had suggested multi-sig (obviously not myself, nor OgNasty) to theymos long before I had any direct interaction with TMAN, OgNasty, et. al. or their dispute came into being. I think he used CET as an example of a much safer setup, because we use multi-sig for our major funds. Whether someone wants to endorse or protest CET is not up to me. Switching over from single key holders to a multi-sig setup for the forum funds is a no brainer, in every context.

Tman and Isoneguy are not buddies, they are in collusion/associates/they are connected.

I know TMAN to a certain extent, and have never heard of the other guy which is why I do not believe they are connected in any way. If two people share the opinion on a certain issue, does that mean they are in collusion? I think not.

After all this shit tossed at the guy......I TRUST HIM MORE AND YOU ALL LESS.  I'm betting I'm not the only one either.

There is a lot more to all of these stories, but most of that was never publicly released. Blind faith has never led to any good. I suggest that you add a grain of salt and skepticism when dealing with, anyone.

[TMAN]

Updating my answer to HELL NO he should NOT be removed!!!

I asked about it and no one wanted to answer?  Geez I wonder why    NONE OF YOU, as far as I can see is on that list. Edit: Not even me is on that list. IF you are NOT a DONOR you do NOT have any say. IT'S NOT YOUR BUSINESS.    

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Yeah I read that waste of time thread.  Its so OBVIOUS what that thread was another FAILED attempt.  Read it for yourself and you will find:

Tman has a thing for "cocksucking". I can't even count how many times he kept talking about sucking cock cunts n cum priceless
Tman says things and think it's automatically makes it a bet    He even starts a "countdown".  He also pushes funds to OG and THEN tries to claim he's "self-escrow"  THEN TMan wants a vote from the community about the Bet.  HE LOST and still kept whining lol fuckin passive aggressive loser    Before, I even saw that hot mess, I added YOUR feedback profile as a perfect example.

@Gums the escrow guy made some valid points but obviously if it's valid -Tman doesn't wanna hear it.
@QS you made valid points props to you.
@Lauda I use to think you were impartial, you were not. There is something for you to gain.  IF this "multi-sig" has something to do with adding you on it?  Never should you be allowed anywhere near that fund. Tman and Isoneguy are not buddies, they are in collusion/associates/they are connected.

Attacking & Discrediting OG and THEN trying to get him removed as Treasure lol whatta fuckin joke.  Hell I don't even know the full history of ya'll shit.  But its obvious OGNasty was chosen for a reason & rightly so.

After all this shit tossed at the guy......I TRUST HIM MORE AND YOU ALL LESS.  I'm betting I'm not the only one either.

On behalf of everyone (not the scammers) THANK YOU FOR TRYING TO PULL THIS SHIT IN THE OPEN  

This thread is MOOT edit: MY VOTE DOESN'T MATTER BUT LET IT BE MY OPINION.

you haven't been around that long so you don't know that a number of the people on the donator list turned into scammers.. I am discrediting OG as he decided the outcome of a silly childish bet on his own, he refused to let the community decide on the outcome of the bet - but I put a poll up anyway and he won. If he had chosen to let the community decide we wouldnt be here now talking about it.

this led on to me questioning his draconian attitude, the fact his word is the last word - so I started questioning his escrow service - with a few unhappy clients recently and the mooning price of BTC surely it would be better having other peoples funds not tied up in a single point of failure. 

I supply Servers and Networking IRL - for any half decent business storing data RAID comes into play - lose one disk it doesnt matter, another still has the data...  it should be the same with forum members funds and the forum funds..  a single point of failure causes issues IRL and will cause issues here one day.  OG could be hit by a bus, be arrested for running a ponzi, have a heart attack - be arrested for kerb crawling, whatever the reason - people with funds in escrow could lose out.  That is why multisig is the only safe option.

[isoneguy]

you're right, I can't afford a lawsuit.

I can't even afford my next meal...I had to eat my previous one from a garbage can.