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Question: Should OgNasty be removed as a forum treasurer?  (Voting closed: August 14, 2017, 01:54:05 PM)
yes - I have had issues with his escrow service - 7 (11.1%)
yes - I dislike his personality - 10 (15.9%)
yes - Multisig is the only way and OG is a dinosaur - 8 (12.7%)
yes - Multisig is the only way - 6 (9.5%)
no - I love him and his loss making asset NastyFans - 9 (14.3%)
NO - OG is better than Multisig - 23 (36.5%)
Total Voters: 47

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July 24, 2017, 01:54:05 PM
Last edit: July 25, 2017, 09:40:20 AM by TMAN
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As many of us know he seems slightly unhinged now, his recent spat with me where he refused to allow the community to decide a very simplistic bet. Recently there have been more and more issues with his escrow clients (the most recent one, where he returned the escrow payment to an address the user didn't control..).

His personality put aside, there are multiple risks associated with a single holder of funds. Even DNM's have moved to multisig, so why is Theymos letting OG keep so many BTC? You only need to look @ CET escrow service who are holding funds for an ICO with far more than the forums funds, they are a group of people spread half way across the globe with multiple keys held by multiple people.

Personally, I believe that OGNasty is not the man he once was - with his Fanclub seats falling in price quicker than a suicide jumper off a bridge, should the forum still trust this man?


Edit - OG sees Multisig as complicated... shame the Dinosaur isnt keeping up with the times.

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July 24, 2017, 02:01:39 PM
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No. He should not be removed

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Regardless what I think of OG's most recent behaviour I don't understand why 1 person is still in control of a large amount of funds. 1 of the BTCT fund holders (forgot his name) died/disappeared and I believe those funds were lost. Multisig is a safer way to store the funds imo.

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July 24, 2017, 02:11:50 PM
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Your poll is way too unbalanced. I'd chose no, but not for the stated reason.
I've had no issues with him and I was in a signature campaign he managed not that long ago.
I have no reasons to not trust him. But that doesn't mean I trust him blindly, I'd never trust blindly anyone.

Also I don't understand your problem. This should be Theymos' problem. If he trusts OgNasty, what's your problem with that?


TL;DR; No, he should not be removed by user request; it's Theymos' pure decision.

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July 24, 2017, 02:13:02 PM
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Regardless what I think of OG's most recent behaviour I don't understand why 1 person is still in control of a large amount of funds. 1 of the BTCT fund holders (forgot his name) died/disappeared and I believe those funds were lost. Multisig is a safer way to store the funds imo.

its not only the forum funds - its the hundreds of BTC that he holds for members as well - he said he has a dead man switch, how do we know if the fail-over person is trusted enough to not run off with the funds?

for all we know OG himself might of bought himself a pad in Belize... if the DNM's are using multisig why are more users not requesting it for forum sales?

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July 24, 2017, 02:14:35 PM
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1 of the BTCT fund holders (forgot his name) died/disappeared and I believe those funds were lost. Multisig is a safer way to store the funds imo.
I've suggested this to theymos sometime in 2016. Even though he was in favor of the idea, he still did not do anything about it AFAIK. I don't even know who the remaining treasurers are?

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July 24, 2017, 02:15:29 PM
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Your poll is way too unbalanced. I'd chose no, but not for the stated reason.
I've had no issues with him and I was in a signature campaign he managed not that long ago.
I have no reasons to not trust him. But that doesn't mean I trust him blindly, I'd never trust blindly anyone.

Also I don't understand your problem. This should be Theymos' problem. If he trusts OgNasty, what's your problem with that?


TL;DR; No, he should not be removed by user request; it's Theymos' pure decision.

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It should now be clear why the sudden rise of attacks against me and fake scam accusations.

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Who do you suggest be the new treasurer/s then?
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Who do you suggest be the new treasurer/s then?

thats not my decision, thats up to the big boss.. my point is mainly that OG is still hustling for 0.01BTC escrow tips, and running an asset that could be seen by some as a ponzi.. who knows what could happen next, imagine if the SEC got hold of him and he ended up in prison. With multisig there is no single point of failure, the DNM's are more innovative than this forum - maybe we should learn from them

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July 24, 2017, 02:26:02 PM
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Your poll is way too unbalanced. I'd chose no, but not for the stated reason.
I've had no issues with him and I was in a signature campaign he managed not that long ago.
I have no reasons to not trust him. But that doesn't mean I trust him blindly, I'd never trust blindly anyone.

Also I don't understand your problem. This should be Theymos' problem. If he trusts OgNasty, what's your problem with that?


TL;DR; No, he should not be removed by user request; it's Theymos' pure decision.

good point - i will add an additional no box. But can I ask why you wouldn't prefer people to use a multisig escrow?

This is not about technology and not much about OgNasty either; it's about people minding their own business.
If you would be at least donor, you should discuss this issue (if it's really an issue) with Theymos. It's 100% up to him.

TL;DR: The answer is already in my post: it's Theymos' decision and I respect that. Just as simple.

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July 24, 2017, 02:34:53 PM
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Your poll is way too unbalanced. I'd chose no, but not for the stated reason.
I've had no issues with him and I was in a signature campaign he managed not that long ago.
I have no reasons to not trust him. But that doesn't mean I trust him blindly, I'd never trust blindly anyone.

Also I don't understand your problem. This should be Theymos' problem. If he trusts OgNasty, what's your problem with that?


TL;DR; No, he should not be removed by user request; it's Theymos' pure decision.

good point - i will add an additional no box. But can I ask why you wouldn't prefer people to use a multisig escrow?

This is not about technology and not much about OgNasty either; it's about people minding their own business.
If you would be at least donor, you should discuss this issue (if it's really an issue) with Theymos. It's 100% up to him.

TL;DR: The answer is already in my post: it's Theymos' decision and I respect that. Just as simple.


This is about utilizing the best solution to protect all involved. I agree it is Theymos who has the final say, but If the community wants a more secure escrow service then maybe a new escrow service will become "the most trusted forum user"..

the fact that I despise OG and his draconian attitude to situations that arise has led me to question whats so great about Mr Arizona?

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July 24, 2017, 06:07:52 PM
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As many of us know he seems slightly unhinged now, his recent spat with me where he refused to allow the community to decide a very simplistic bet. Recently there have been more and more issues with his escrow clients (the most recent one, where he returned the escrow payment to an address the user didn't control..).

His personality put aside, there are multiple risks associated with a single holder of funds. Even DNM's have moved to multisig, so why is Theymos letting OG keep so many BTC? You only need to look @ CET escrow service who are holding funds for an ICO with far more than the forums funds, they are a group of people spread half way across the globe with multiple keys held by multiple people.

Personally, I believe that OGNasty is not the man he once was - with his Fanclub seats falling in price quicker than a suicide jumper off a bridge, should the forum still trust this man?

Answer: No shouldn't be removed.

Agree w/the other poster, your "Poll" is wayyy off.  Bias, obvious no need to distort things.   
Why is this even a post Huh  Does this "treasurer control your funds"?

 Cheesy "unhinged" loool sorry I gotta rofl at that are you serious? lol man "unhinged" is posting all over, lying, faking quotes, posting threats your buddy isoneguy (biggest and funniest melt down I've seen cuz of a failed scam Cheesy)

I think you are wrong.  I just stumbled onto the Green Project and I am interested.  No I'm not an Alt, never been a member etc.

Ok:  I see your gripe but honestly you could approach it differently.  I don't know about your bet.  Although, I dislike and don't really trust what you say.  Some people think I'm a fair person.  So let me ask you:  What was the bet?  Where can I see this?  Pm/Post.
 

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Do you ever find yourself having conversations with yourself in the dark OGnasty? How many alts will you burn over this? If you can't handle $700 properly how are you supposed to handle more than that?

Who's delusional enough to let you hold 49 BTC anyways?

Either Theymos is OGnasty or they're brothers or something.
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Do you ever find yourself having conversations with yourself in the dark OGnasty? How many alts will you burn over this? If you can't handle $700 properly how are you supposed to handle more than that?

Who's delusional enough to let you hold 49 BTC anyways?

Either Theymos is OGnasty or they're brothers or something.

Dude FFS stop with the alts shit. The poll is proving the community has lost faith in OG, if you stop throwing accusations people will be more likely to be sympathetic

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July 24, 2017, 06:50:09 PM
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Why is this even a post Huh  Does this "treasurer control your funds"?
This is a non argument. I was concerned with the safety of the forum funds before practically any interaction with any treasurer. Multisig is practically superior to the current setup in pretty much every way.

Cheesy "unhinged" loool sorry I gotta rofl at that are you serious? lol man "unhinged" is posting all over, lying, faking quotes, posting threats your buddy isoneguy (biggest and funniest melt down I've seen cuz of a failed scam Cheesy)
I don't think TMAN and isoneguy are buddies. I haven't heard of the latter until he/she/it opened a thread against OgNasty.

I see your gripe but honestly you could approach it differently. 
If I had planned to open a thread regarding forum funds, I would probably have left out any names. Multisig is a no-brainer (funds have been lost in the past). Then there is also this:

I don't even know who the remaining treasurers are?

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July 24, 2017, 07:03:12 PM
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I don't even know who the remaining treasurers are?

It had best not be one person...Shouldn't there be redundancies? Even a simple IT guy can figure that out.

I think OGnasty's recent behavior and the fact he's holding large sums of money is a SERIOUS problem.

Perhaps the two are linked? Who's dumb enough to give one person that much money without some sort of collateral.

How well does Theymos even know OGnasty to let him hold forum funds?

oh and multisig, yeah...it's probably secure enough you could build an API around it and use it automated.
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July 24, 2017, 07:19:06 PM
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Why is this even a post Huh  Does this "treasurer control your funds"?
This is a non argument. I was concerned with the safety of the forum funds before practically any interaction with any treasurer. Multisig is practically superior to the current setup in pretty much every way.

Cheesy "unhinged" loool sorry I gotta rofl at that are you serious? lol man "unhinged" is posting all over, lying, faking quotes, posting threats your buddy isoneguy (biggest and funniest melt down I've seen cuz of a failed scam Cheesy)
I don't think TMAN and isoneguy are buddies. I haven't heard of the latter until he/she/it opened a thread against OgNasty.

I see your gripe but honestly you could approach it differently. 
If I had planned to open a thread regarding forum funds, I would probably have left out any names. Multisig is a no-brainer (funds have been lost in the past). Then there is also this:

I don't even know who the remaining treasurers are?

buddy was being lax. I'm guilty of laughing so hard.  I even shared the failed scam meltdown with others who (shamefully) laughed equally hard.

Anyways to the point:  Where did these forum funds come from?  What are they to be used for?  That will help me understand a bit.  Because if these funds are "donations" that's a different thing.

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July 24, 2017, 07:24:54 PM
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Had you not tried to make it look like a troll (which I believe you  are after throwing personal attacks and baseless accusations against OgNasty since a month I guess) I could have taken your poll seriously.But look,your options are troll itself.

yes - I have had issues with his escrow service   - 2 (10%)
yes - I dislike his personality   - 4 (20%)
yes - Multisig is the only way and OG is a dinosaur   - 2 (10%)
yes - Multisig is the only way   - 3 (15%)
no - I love him and his loss making asset NastyFans

Sir,you need to stop attacking him personally.You know right you're just making a fool out of yourself ? Your previous polls never were in your favour,just like this one.

This is about utilizing the best solution to protect all involved. I agree it is Theymos who has the final say, but If the community wants a more secure escrow service then maybe a new escrow service will become "the most trusted forum user"..
Who said community wants to replace OgNasty ? I've seen only 2 trolls till date,you and the  hammer dude.And guess whaat ? You both don't individually represent the community. Kiss

Personally, I believe that OGNasty is not the man he once was - with his Fanclub seats falling in price quicker than a suicide jumper off a bridge, should the forum still trust this man?
That was a lame punchline either way,yes forum should still trust this man.I will.

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July 24, 2017, 07:34:38 PM
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Had you not tried to make it look like a troll (which I believe you  are after throwing personal attacks and baseless accusations against OgNasty since a month I guess) I could have taken your poll seriously.But look,your options are troll itself.

yes - I have had issues with his escrow service   - 2 (10%)
yes - I dislike his personality   - 4 (20%)
yes - Multisig is the only way and OG is a dinosaur   - 2 (10%)
yes - Multisig is the only way   - 3 (15%)
no - I love him and his loss making asset NastyFans

Sir,you need to stop attacking him personally.You know right you're just making a fool out of yourself ? Your previous polls never were in your favour,just like this one.

This is about utilizing the best solution to protect all involved. I agree it is Theymos who has the final say, but If the community wants a more secure escrow service then maybe a new escrow service will become "the most trusted forum user"..
Who said community wants to replace OgNasty ? I've seen only 2 trolls till date,you and the  hammer dude.And guess whaat ? You both don't individually represent the community. Kiss

Personally, I believe that OGNasty is not the man he once was - with his Fanclub seats falling in price quicker than a suicide jumper off a bridge, should the forum still trust this man?
That was a lame punchline either way,yes forum should still trust this man.I will.

Nice trust rating son... OG is a dinosaur, multisig is too complicated for him... dinosaurs are extinct.. just like OG

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