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July 26, 2017, 03:01:54 PM
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I am a bit confused the forthcoming blockchain fork.  Huh

As far as I understand I would receive automatically the same amount of BCC I have BTC if I held my coins in Ledger Nano (or Electrum?) since their software support that.

However, my question is: if my coins was in BitcoinCore wallet, would I be able to separate my coins into BTC and BCC afterwards and getting free BCC?

I am not sure what you mean by BitcoinCore wallet as there is no such as far as I know. Yes, the nano ledger will be able to separate between BTC and BTCC as  the two are quite different. Dont worry, just sit tight and enjoy the ride.
  

Thanks for reply. I meant this by BitcoinCore wallet:
https://bitcoin.org/en/download

So if I keep my coins there, would I be able to separate them between BTC and BCC manually later after the fork and receiving same amount of BTC and BCC?
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July 26, 2017, 03:20:27 PM
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I am a bit confused the forthcoming blockchain fork.  Huh

As far as I understand I would receive automatically the same amount of BCC I have BTC if I held my coins in Ledger Nano (or Electrum?) since their software support that.

However, my question is: if my coins was in BitcoinCore wallet, would I be able to separate my coins into BTC and BCC afterwards and getting free BCC?

I am not sure what you mean by BitcoinCore wallet as there is no such as far as I know. Yes, the nano ledger will be able to separate between BTC and BTCC as  the two are quite different. Dont worry, just sit tight and enjoy the ride.
  

Thanks for reply. I meant this by BitcoinCore wallet:
https://bitcoin.org/en/download

So if I keep my coins there, would I be able to separate them between BTC and BCC manually later after the fork and receiving same amount of BTC and BCC?

I think there will be another wallet supporting BCC that will receive BCC. The wallet just uses the same private key and the same address. Isn't it?

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July 26, 2017, 04:09:07 PM
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Will became two independent currencies

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July 26, 2017, 07:56:16 PM
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I am a bit confused the forthcoming blockchain fork.  Huh

As far as I understand I would receive automatically the same amount of BCC I have BTC if I held my coins in Ledger Nano (or Electrum?) since their software support that.

However, my question is: if my coins was in BitcoinCore wallet, would I be able to separate my coins into BTC and BCC afterwards and getting free BCC?

I am not sure what you mean by BitcoinCore wallet as there is no such as far as I know. Yes, the nano ledger will be able to separate between BTC and BTCC as  the two are quite different. Dont worry, just sit tight and enjoy the ride.
  

Thanks for reply. I meant this by BitcoinCore wallet:
https://bitcoin.org/en/download

So if I keep my coins there, would I be able to separate them between BTC and BCC manually later after the fork and receiving same amount of BTC and BCC?

I think there will be another wallet supporting BCC that will receive BCC. The wallet just uses the same private key and the same address. Isn't it?
Yes, as they write on bitcoincash.org, it will be the same private key and the same adress on 1.August.
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July 26, 2017, 08:36:34 PM
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Anyone knows if the online wallets will support BCC, I'm talking about wallets like Xapo!?

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July 26, 2017, 08:45:46 PM
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Anyone knows if the online wallets will support BCC, I'm talking about wallets like Xapo!?

Too early to tell. ViaBTC only has about 10 PH mining on Bitcoin ABC. The best way to get bcc is to have your bitcoin in a Trezor or Ledger Nano S hardware wallet before the fork.

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July 26, 2017, 08:51:14 PM
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Anyone knows if the online wallets will support BCC, I'm talking about wallets like Xapo!?

Too early to tell. ViaBTC only has about 10 PH mining on Bitcoin ABC. The best way to get bcc is to have your bitcoin in a Trezor or Ledger Nano S hardware wallet before the fork.

Sure. I'm already thinking in buying a Ledger Nano S.

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July 26, 2017, 09:10:28 PM
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Anyone knows if the online wallets will support BCC, I'm talking about wallets like Xapo!?

Too early to tell. ViaBTC only has about 10 PH mining on Bitcoin ABC. The best way to get bcc is to have your bitcoin in a Trezor or Ledger Nano S hardware wallet before the fork.

Or any wallet that gives u access to the private key. The private key will obviously work on both chains when they have their separate wallets.
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July 26, 2017, 10:07:20 PM
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Hey guys I am still confused on what to do to get both coins. I have all my bitcoins on my electrum desktop wallet. However someone says that does not support BCC.

Is a desktop wallet considered a hardware wallet? If I cannot get my hands on a  Trezor or Ledger Nano S hardware wallet in time for the fork, Should I take everything off electrum and put it on a paper wallet?

Thanks for the help I am a total noob at this stuff still.
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July 26, 2017, 10:20:45 PM
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Hey guys I am still confused on what to do to get both coins. I have all my bitcoins on my electrum desktop wallet. However someone says that does not support BCC.

Is a desktop wallet considered a hardware wallet? If I cannot get my hands on a  Trezor or Ledger Nano S hardware wallet in time for the fork, Should I take everything off electrum and put it on a paper wallet?

Thanks for the help I am a total noob at this stuff still.
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July 26, 2017, 10:22:26 PM
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If I did that I would be losing money.
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July 26, 2017, 10:28:15 PM
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Bitcoin price has dropped. Should I invest more FIAT into it before 1 Aug?
Investing more into bitcoin when the price drops is your choice and if you are able to invest more into bitcoin right now before August,you will stand a chance to own more coins from the split coin as well,so literally you are gaining more profit if you look at that way,good that you have already moved your coins in your own wallet where you holds the private key.
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July 26, 2017, 10:46:58 PM
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If price drops below $2000 you should buy. I think a drop that low will be brief and the only way to take advantage of it is to already have cash at an exchange with a buy order in place. You should assume if we have a flash crash Coinbase may go down from server overload so don't count on being able to watch price and make a market buy, you may not be able to even log into Coinbase.

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July 26, 2017, 10:56:40 PM
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I'm pretty new to the cryptocurrency world and what I have seen in the past days, everybody is talking about BIP 149, SegWit2x and other terms that I really don't understand. As far I can understand that bitcoin will split into 2 separate currencies: BTC (Legacy old) and BCC (Bitcoin Cash or Bitcoin ABC -it's the same, right?-) after 1 August UTC 12:00 am. People say that I should withdraw all my coins into my Electrum Wallet before 1 Aug. That's what have I done.

After the split, everything will be cloned and people will have both BTC and BCC. If you had 1 BTC, after the split you will have 1 BCC as well. So... what to do after that? Will ever BTC exists? Will people have the possibility to trade with BTC and with BCC as well? If these are 2 different currencies, that means if I make a transaction with BCC (send) then it will be transfered in BTC as well? Will the 2 currencies "synchronize" with each other? (I don't know if you can understand what I'm trying to say).

- Bitcoin price has dropped. Should I invest more FIAT into it before 1 Aug?

I think that statements like "Bitcoin will split" are wrong.Bitcoin doesn`t split,the blockchain splits.
If the split happens,BCC will soon become worthless,due to the lack of supporters.People would want
to sell their BCC as soon as possible and the price will colapse pretty fast.
Everyone is free to HODL their BCC,after the split.Nobody would lose anything,unless all the people panic and make some wrong trading decisions.

You are absolutely right except on one point, BCC sure has stronger support than you think. There is a strong political game/power being it, no wonder exchange are getting ready like crazy.
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July 26, 2017, 11:00:54 PM
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One thing you should know that. segwit is to provide solutions in the confirmation in order to be as ready, so if segwit is successful it is likely that the absence of a split in the world of the bitcoin. BEEP already done 149 yesterday and most of the miners had already managed to confirm this, right now I am trying to do the transaction confirmation that the level is much better than before. So you need not fear to save any number of BTC, all you hear is only big investors strategies to utilize the State
 
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July 26, 2017, 11:16:09 PM
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I'm pretty new to the cryptocurrency world and what I have seen in the past days, everybody is talking about BIP 149, SegWit2x and other terms that I really don't understand. As far I can understand that bitcoin will split into 2 separate currencies: BTC (Legacy old) and BCC (Bitcoin Cash or Bitcoin ABC -it's the same, right?-) after 1 August UTC 12:00 am. People say that I should withdraw all my coins into my Electrum Wallet before 1 Aug. That's what have I done.

After the split, everything will be cloned and people will have both BTC and BCC. If you had 1 BTC, after the split you will have 1 BCC as well. So... what to do after that? Will ever BTC exists? Will people have the possibility to trade with BTC and with BCC as well? If these are 2 different currencies, that means if I make a transaction with BCC (send) then it will be transfered in BTC as well? Will the 2 currencies "synchronize" with each other? (I don't know if you can understand what I'm trying to say).

- Bitcoin price has dropped. Should I invest more FIAT into it before 1 Aug?

You were doing so well, if you want some suggestions, here;
1. withdraw all your coins into electrum wallet, mean you can get BCC after UAHF and consider it as a free money, if you can sell it.
2. If you can't, just cash out your bitcoin and buy back when bitcoin clone launched on August, we expect for a little drop of the price.
3. If you don't want to take the risk, then just let it safe in electrum wallet and make sure to export the private keys.
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July 27, 2017, 02:16:49 AM
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I'm pretty new to the cryptocurrency world and what I have seen in the past days, everybody is talking about BIP 149, SegWit2x and other terms that I really don't understand. As far I can understand that bitcoin will split into 2 separate currencies: BTC (Legacy old) and BCC (Bitcoin Cash or Bitcoin ABC -it's the same, right?-) after 1 August UTC 12:00 am. People say that I should withdraw all my coins into my Electrum Wallet before 1 Aug. That's what have I done.

After the split, everything will be cloned and people will have both BTC and BCC. If you had 1 BTC, after the split you will have 1 BCC as well. So... what to do after that? Will ever BTC exists? Will people have the possibility to trade with BTC and with BCC as well? If these are 2 different currencies, that means if I make a transaction with BCC (send) then it will be transfered in BTC as well? Will the 2 currencies "synchronize" with each other? (I don't know if you can understand what I'm trying to say).

- Bitcoin price has dropped. Should I invest more FIAT into it before 1 Aug?
Store all your btc in your personal wallet.
Don't sell your Bitcoin too soon as nothing big happens in a fortnight.
Don't panic.
Make sure that you don't send/receive bitcoin 24 - 48 hours before and probably after  August 1.
If there is a split keep both BTC and BCC with you.
The decision is still yours ,its still up to you for what is good and what is bad for you and your future in Bitcoin.


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July 27, 2017, 02:36:53 AM
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sorry guys I am still not getting this. So you are saying BCC will just appear in my electrum wallet 8/1/17 at 12:20pm as long as my BTC is there, or do I have to have my BTC in another type of electrum wallet... such as the one found on this website recommended by bitcoin cash

http://www.electrumcash.org/

However this website says it is coming soon.

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July 27, 2017, 03:10:48 AM
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sorry guys I am still not getting this. So you are saying BCC will just appear in my electrum wallet 8/1/17 at 12:20pm as long as my BTC is there, or do I have to have my BTC in another type of electrum wallet... such as the one found on this website recommended by bitcoin cash

http://www.electrumcash.org/

However this website says it is coming soon.


No it will not. Read the instructions at Bitcoin Cash:

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You can continue to use legacy Bitcoin as usual.  As long as you hold your private keys, any unspent bitcoins from before August 1 will be be safely waiting for you. Make and keep a backup of your wallet before July 31. When you are ready, copy your pre-fork wallet.dat (or import your private keys) into one of the Bitcoin Cash implementations, and your pre-split balance will be available to you as Bitcoin Cash.

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July 27, 2017, 03:12:56 AM
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Is Electrum wallet supports split?

Electrum Wallet does not support BCC, only BTC: https://electrum.org/bcc.txt

After reading the text, what i understand is that you can have btc in the electrum wallet and you will be entitled to the bcc also. However, to claim the bcc, you have to use another wallet as electrum wallet does not support, am i right to say so?
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