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July 28, 2017, 03:41:26 PM |
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Hi,
stored everything on paper wallets to have the private key. How can I claim Bitcoin Cash from that?
I think I'll have to use a Bitcoin Cash wallet, import my private key there and transfer everything to a Bitcoin Cash address?
I would not like to entrust a software i don't know with my private key. Or maybe there will be online services who will do the split but same thing how to know if i can trust this?
Also I'd like to know if I need a special Bitcoin Cash Address or will my Bitcoin address simply be my Bitcoin Cash address if I move everything away after 1.8? Would be the easiest way in my opinion since my Bitcoins are in safety and I could import this private key then in a Bitcoin Cash wallet or sell them?.
Also you should do no transactions after 1.8 for a couple of days but it should be perfectly safe if I hold all the private keys so I dot't care where the coins end up.
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July 28, 2017, 03:53:27 PM |
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Thank you!
I could move my Bitcoins to a new address before I import them since the new chain for Bitcoin Cash would no see that and accept the old now empty wallet? I understand the this transfer might not happen if Bitcoin has problems with the chain but I can't lose anything right?
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July 28, 2017, 04:04:25 PM |
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Thank you!
I could move my Bitcoins to a new address before I import them since the new chain for Bitcoin Cash would no see that and accept the old now empty wallet? I understand the this transfer might not happen if Bitcoin has problems with the chain but I can't lose anything right?
Your question isn't really clear. What I understood is you want to know about the safety of your Bitcoin. Then let me tell you no matter what wallet or exchange (trusted ones) you chose for storing your Bitcoin, your BTC will remain safe. That all fuss about private keys is for claiming BCC on 1st August. The amount of BCC you will receive will be equal to the Bitcoin you are holding on that key. Just avoid transactions on 1st August. There wouldn't be any problem in transferring Bitcoin before 1st August. What all transfers you want to do, do it in these 2 days.
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July 28, 2017, 04:07:51 PM |
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Thank you!
I could move my Bitcoins to a new address before I import them since the new chain for Bitcoin Cash would no see that and accept the old now empty wallet? I understand the this transfer might not happen if Bitcoin has problems with the chain but I can't lose anything right?
The only thing you should have is private key of your bitcoin address where you have to store all of your bitcoins before 31st july. During hardfork bitcoincash will take blockchain snapshot and it will credit similar about of BCC to all bitcoin holding addresses at the time of that snapshot. So when you will import that private key in BCC compatible wallet like jaxx in future you will see same amount of BCC which you can move afterwards. Just put your bitcoin in paper wallet and relax.
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July 28, 2017, 05:03:10 PM |
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Thank you. I have everything on paper already. My question was if I move my Bitcoin away after the snapshot I can safely import the private key in Bitcoin Cash wallet since I don't want to trust this wallet with a private key where my Bitcoin are still stored.
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July 28, 2017, 06:39:51 PM |
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Okay just confirmed it, I will hold on to this rule:
Control private Key BEFORE the fork (I use paper wallet). Move Bitcoins to a new Wallet address AFTER (again paper in my case) the fork (also control private key).
Then use the private key from BEFORE the fork to import in BCC wallet.
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July 28, 2017, 09:12:46 PM |
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Okay just confirmed it, I will hold on to this rule:
Control private Key BEFORE the fork (I use paper wallet). Move Bitcoins to a new Wallet address AFTER (again paper in my case) the fork (also control private key).
Then use the private key from BEFORE the fork to import in BCC wallet.
Why do you need to move the Bitcoins to a new Wallet Address?
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July 28, 2017, 10:23:44 PM |
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Okay just confirmed it, I will hold on to this rule:
Control private Key BEFORE the fork (I use paper wallet). Move Bitcoins to a new Wallet address AFTER (again paper in my case) the fork (also control private key).
Then use the private key from BEFORE the fork to import in BCC wallet.
Yes that would work, just make sure you look into replay attack protection as well. I would suggest you move both btc and bcc to new paper wallets after the fork rather than just the one.
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July 28, 2017, 11:55:14 PM |
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Ok, i just wanted to confirm 100% because im a paranoid fuck:
I am a paper wallet user, after the hardfork and bitcoin cash is born:
- wait for bitcoin cash supported wallet to appear - use my private key to sweep my BITCOIN CASH balance onto the bitcoin cash wallet.
No, for my retarded better safe than sorry question:
Will doing a wallet sweep for my bitcoin cash balance affect my bitcoin balance?
- i know youre NEVER to do partial sweeps of a paper wallet I think i know the answer to this question but figured i wanted to be 100% sure
Thanks for any help!
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July 29, 2017, 02:01:37 AM |
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Ok, i just wanted to confirm 100% because im a paranoid fuck:
I am a paper wallet user, after the hardfork and bitcoin cash is born:
- wait for bitcoin cash supported wallet to appear - use my private key to sweep my BITCOIN CASH balance onto the bitcoin cash wallet.
No, for my retarded better safe than sorry question:
Will doing a wallet sweep for my bitcoin cash balance affect my bitcoin balance?
- i know youre NEVER to do partial sweeps of a paper wallet I think i know the answer to this question but figured i wanted to be 100% sure
Thanks for any help!
Just hold the private keys of your Bitcoin wallet (the paper wallet you have). You need to do nothing about your Bitcoins. They will remain safe in your paper wallet whose private keys you are holding. After 1st August you can claim your BCC through those private keys using BCC wallet. Bitcoin will remain as it is in you paper wallet. There is no need to transfer your Bitcoin anywhere. You are not sweeping your paper wallet. Just consider your private keys as an email id. In Bitcoin wallet through that email id you will get BTC and then in BCC wallet through your email id you will have BCC. Private keys are used to show that you own BTC on that address and hence can claim you BCC equivalent on another wallet. Bitcoin will stay in your paper wallet.
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July 29, 2017, 05:07:12 AM |
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Ok, i just wanted to confirm 100% because im a paranoid fuck:
I am a paper wallet user, after the hardfork and bitcoin cash is born:
- wait for bitcoin cash supported wallet to appear - use my private key to sweep my BITCOIN CASH balance onto the bitcoin cash wallet.
No, for my retarded better safe than sorry question:
Will doing a wallet sweep for my bitcoin cash balance affect my bitcoin balance?
- i know youre NEVER to do partial sweeps of a paper wallet I think i know the answer to this question but figured i wanted to be 100% sure
Thanks for any help!
Just hold the private keys of your Bitcoin wallet (the paper wallet you have). You need to do nothing about your Bitcoins. They will remain safe in your paper wallet whose private keys you are holding. After 1st August you can claim your BCC through those private keys using BCC wallet. Bitcoin will remain as it is in you paper wallet. There is no need to transfer your Bitcoin anywhere. You are not sweeping your paper wallet. Just consider your private keys as an email id. In Bitcoin wallet through that email id you will get BTC and then in BCC wallet through your email id you will have BCC. Private keys are used to show that you own BTC on that address and hence can claim you BCC equivalent on another wallet. Bitcoin will stay in your paper wallet. Okay .. thanks for your information on how to claim BCC. I will share this information to some of my friends who are currently struggling to claim BCC.
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July 29, 2017, 06:36:14 AM |
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You just have to wait until everyhing is clear and then you can import your private keys to a wallet which can give you bcc, it is simple but don't rush it.
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July 29, 2017, 10:14:23 AM |
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Hi,
stored everything on paper wallets to have the private key. How can I claim Bitcoin Cash from that?
I think I'll have to use a Bitcoin Cash wallet, import my private key there and transfer everything to a Bitcoin Cash address?
I would not like to entrust a software i don't know with my private key. Or maybe there will be online services who will do the split but same thing how to know if i can trust this?
Also I'd like to know if I need a special Bitcoin Cash Address or will my Bitcoin address simply be my Bitcoin Cash address if I move everything away after 1.8? Would be the easiest way in my opinion since my Bitcoins are in safety and I could import this private key then in a Bitcoin Cash wallet or sell them?.
Also you should do no transactions after 1.8 for a couple of days but it should be perfectly safe if I hold all the private keys so I dot't care where the coins end up.
Automatically you will get bitcoin cash in accordance with the amount of bitcoin balance (BTC) that you save in the wallet paper just by entering the private key.
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July 29, 2017, 10:18:25 AM |
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For me, I think, all you need Import your private key to Bitcoin Cash wallet, and transfer everything to new BTC wallet.
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July 29, 2017, 10:27:25 AM |
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Hi,
stored everything on paper wallets to have the private key. How can I claim Bitcoin Cash from that?
I think I'll have to use a Bitcoin Cash wallet, import my private key there and transfer everything to a Bitcoin Cash address?
I would not like to entrust a software i don't know with my private key. Or maybe there will be online services who will do the split but same thing how to know if i can trust this?
Also I'd like to know if I need a special Bitcoin Cash Address or will my Bitcoin address simply be my Bitcoin Cash address if I move everything away after 1.8? Would be the easiest way in my opinion since my Bitcoins are in safety and I could import this private key then in a Bitcoin Cash wallet or sell them?.
Also you should do no transactions after 1.8 for a couple of days but it should be perfectly safe if I hold all the private keys so I dot't care where the coins end up.
You should go to there dude. And you may find your answer for that. But there some ways to claim your bitcoin case, the first there are some exchange sites what will be ditributed the bitcoin cash to the bitcoin holders. or you can try to use the electrum wallet that has compatible with the upcoming fork.
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July 29, 2017, 11:25:35 AM |
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Most probably or surely there will upgrades in the traditional wallets to support both the chains. So you can do the transaction smoothly without worrying about the facts that you just said.
Yes, about having BCC address, you will need to create one. This will be probably available through the wallets I believe. The info is however unclear. The bright picture will come up in the first week of August for sure. :-)
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July 29, 2017, 01:07:36 PM |
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Hi,
stored everything on paper wallets to have the private key. How can I claim Bitcoin Cash from that?
I think I'll have to use a Bitcoin Cash wallet, import my private key there and transfer everything to a Bitcoin Cash address?
I would not like to entrust a software i don't know with my private key. Or maybe there will be online services who will do the split but same thing how to know if i can trust this?
Also I'd like to know if I need a special Bitcoin Cash Address or will my Bitcoin address simply be my Bitcoin Cash address if I move everything away after 1.8? Would be the easiest way in my opinion since my Bitcoins are in safety and I could import this private key then in a Bitcoin Cash wallet or sell them?.
Also you should do no transactions after 1.8 for a couple of days but it should be perfectly safe if I hold all the private keys so I dot't care where the coins end up.
Just keep your private key to receive BCC, if you don't have a private key right now, just create one and move your balance to that address, after the 1st August, there will be a place to redeem your private key to receive BCC.
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July 30, 2017, 08:43:22 PM Last edit: July 30, 2017, 09:02:50 PM by Biodom |
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The only thing you should have is private key of your bitcoin address where you have to store all of your bitcoins before 31st july.
During hardfork bitcoincash will take blockchain snapshot and it will credit similar about of BCC to all bitcoin holding addresses at the time of that snapshot.
So when you will import that private key in BCC compatible wallet like jaxx in future you will see same amount of BCC which you can move afterwards.
Just put your bitcoin in paper wallet and relax.
I got this fact: if you have a paper wallet with private keys, you will have an equal number of BTC and Bcash after Aug 1. What i don't get is how to sweep BOTH your BTC AND Bcash afterwards using THE SAME key. Say, you swept your BTC (after Aug 1) to Electrum or blockchain.info wallet. By doing so you presumably exposed the private key to your paper wallet. It is OK for BTC because it is now all swept into a new wallet, but you still have Bcash associated with the paper wallet. You have to use THE SAME private key to move it (Bcash), but that key was already exposed, isn't it? This does not sound safe (after Aug 1), unless you are sweeping to a wallet that would automatically give you both BTC and Bcash.
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Hello everyone ! THX for the info about this forum ! I already have all my BTCs in paper wallets (so I have private keys!) ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) After the first of August, after about 3/4 hours from the fork, I will prepare to receive the Bcc. ![Roll Eyes](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/rolleyes.gif) If I understand the steps described in the forum, is this the procedure i have to follow? (This is a question!) - For someone , I not have to move BTC, being in the paper wallet and so safety . correct ? - According to other opinions, it would be advisable to move BTCs to other wallets. ? so i see 2/3 option , but i not understand wich one is the best . N1 : Elecrtum, that allowing the sweep ! N2 : Blockchain.info (which does not have the sweep function anymore , actually you can only import the private key, and it will only be observation. Until you move the BTC, maybe at the main address, obviously paying the fees.) At that time , we say that BTC would be saved , as they were moved to the main address so the private keys will change. Now the old private key , can take the risk to be exposed to the BCC wallet ( may be http://www.electroncash.org/ ) ? . IS THIS THE WAY TO NO HAVE RISK FOR THE BTC ?? CORRECT ?? someone have idea wich wallet is the best for collect the BCC , so one wallet the give to import the private key ( that in my case will be from one paper wallet empty , becouse my BTC before was just iport in Blockchain.info and i have just move in other address , for be sure noone can stolen my BTC ) sorry for thge many question but i am a new user and i am worry to do something wrong and louse my BTC , but in same time i would quik have the BCC , for understand the best things to do ( keep , sell ext ...)
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August 01, 2017, 05:15:19 AM |
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The only thing you should have is private key of your bitcoin address where you have to store all of your bitcoins before 31st july.
During hardfork bitcoincash will take blockchain snapshot and it will credit similar about of BCC to all bitcoin holding addresses at the time of that snapshot.
So when you will import that private key in BCC compatible wallet like jaxx in future you will see same amount of BCC which you can move afterwards.
Just put your bitcoin in paper wallet and relax.
I got this fact: if you have a paper wallet with private keys, you will have an equal number of BTC and Bcash after Aug 1. What i don't get is how to sweep BOTH your BTC AND Bcash afterwards using THE SAME key. Say, you swept your BTC (after Aug 1) to Electrum or blockchain.info wallet. By doing so you presumably exposed the private key to your paper wallet. It is OK for BTC because it is now all swept into a new wallet, but you still have Bcash associated with the paper wallet. You have to use THE SAME private key to move it (Bcash), but that key was already exposed, isn't it? This does not sound safe (after Aug 1), unless you are sweeping to a wallet that would automatically give you both BTC and Bcash. It is really not that hard to understand: BTC => move it to a new adress that you only know the private key of. BCC => Use same old BTC adress to move your BCC to a NEW adress. sell or keep. I prefer not selling due to the market being all crazy right now. just wait till we know that all nodes are staying put and then make a move. Rest assured big wales will do the same if there is a lot of money envolved.
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