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August 09, 2017, 12:34:42 PM
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Spending bitcoin as if using fiat is possible with certain wallets that have got the mobile application. Primarily as the user stated based on the country the accessibility of bitcoin similar to bitcoin varies. In most cases localbitcoins serves as a better way to load fiat in term of bitcoin.

But OP wants to buy things from the shops directly from the online wallets. I'm not sure about the other countries but in my country as of now nothing I can buy directly from bitcoins. I think it will take more time to reach that level of bitcoins acceptance. Currently mostly used in gambling, porn and trading purposes.
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August 09, 2017, 12:37:52 PM
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Are there any usable options that allow us to load BTC to a phone wallet (only a small amount, so not real worried about security) and then walk into a store and pay for groceries (priced in the local Fiat) using part of the BTC balance?

Clearly there would be no card, so it would have to be some kind of NFC, Android pay, other contactless solution.


I strongly believe that theres still no such feature on what you are seeking for but there are other ways which you can spend your bitcoins depend on the merchant if they do accept bitcoin and also theres a bitcoin debit card which you can use since its visa type just like on usual cards you would able to load up with the use of btc and automatically converts on your currency.
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August 09, 2017, 01:23:12 PM
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I believe it is possible, innovation is needed on technology, if it can be done then this will make bitcoin more known, because it will be used in small stores by everyone. This our job to find another way for bitcoin glory.
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August 09, 2017, 04:54:37 PM
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Are there any usable options that allow us to load BTC to a phone wallet (only a small amount, so not real worried about security) and then walk into a store and pay for groceries (priced in the local Fiat) using part of the BTC balance?

Clearly there would be no card, so it would have to be some kind of NFC, Android pay, other contactless solution.



I think there are apps that does that already. Some apps that act as your wallet, is affiliated with billing companies like electricity and water, allows you to shop for groceries and even provides specials and bonuses. Though probably it would depend on where you're located.

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August 09, 2017, 05:12:41 PM
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Spending bitcoin as if using fiat is possible with certain wallets that have got the mobile application. Primarily as the user stated based on the country the accessibility of bitcoin similar to bitcoin varies. In most cases localbitcoins serves as a better way to load fiat in term of bitcoin.

But OP wants to buy things from the shops directly from the online wallets. I'm not sure about the other countries but in my country as of now nothing I can buy directly from bitcoins. I think it will take more time to reach that level of bitcoins acceptance. Currently mostly used in gambling, porn and trading purposes.
Bitcoin in outside still not popular, so most shops on the world's don't accept Bitcoin for payment, because the time confirm and receive Bitcoin need many time if not use high fees. I know at now just have Japan, India are country accept Bitcoin like a payment gate and people at here also use it.

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August 09, 2017, 05:56:46 PM
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I don't think that's possible. The best solution would be a debit card. Several companies are offering this at a fair price. That would be your best bet.

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August 09, 2017, 06:33:44 PM
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I don't think that's possible. The best solution would be a debit card. Several companies are offering this at a fair price. That would be your best bet.

I agree, Bitcoin debit card si so far the best solution. It's easy to get and easy to use, for me the most convenient way for spending Bitcoin so far. But ih the future there would be probably mobile Bitcoin wallets that would allow direct Bitcoin payments like se are having for fiat money and cards.

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August 09, 2017, 07:52:43 PM
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Go to https://bitpay.com and apply for a credit/debit card with them so you can pay with Bitcoin from your debit card. Smiley

I don't think there is an app to pay from your phone yet, but the above method should work. Wink
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August 20, 2017, 10:38:13 AM
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Go to https://bitpay.com and apply for a credit/debit card with them so you can pay with Bitcoin from your debit card. Smiley

I don't think there is an app to pay from your phone yet, but the above method should work. Wink

Thanks, do they provide any anonymity?  Or do they require the full set of ID, pictures, etc.....

Would rather not deal with that if there are other options!  But doesn't seem like there are any.

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August 20, 2017, 10:58:58 AM
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Things like this I am sure is already in play after all, a lo of us already have the capacity based on our phones to be able o buy and sell bitcoin without any issue. The remaining part is getting a store to accept bitcoin and thats is all. All that will be needed to make hat happen will be from their part to install the software that would connect with the ones we have and make the transaction a seamless one.
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August 20, 2017, 11:17:03 AM
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This idea is going to be failed if you will go with such phone BTC wallet in an ordinary shop. Yes, such BTC wallet app for phone exist. But you will succeed only in a shop that accept Bitcoin for payment.
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August 20, 2017, 11:23:47 AM
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Yes, in our country it's possible now. We had this site and online app called Coins.ph it is a wallet contains our fiat and a BTC deposits. We can buy a cellphone load and other miscellaneous stuffs on this app. It can also send money on the other through this app. Many teenager enjoyed this because it could purchase games in steam engine through bitcoin and our fiats.

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August 20, 2017, 11:31:03 AM
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Seems like all the debit cards require various form of account verification, was hoping for a phone solution that does away with those requirements....if you know what i mean....

If it's the requirements you're worried about, then I suggest that you use an exchange wallet. It allows you to easily exchange BTC to your local currency, and some wallet providers allow online payments like billing or game credits. Some exchange wallets also have phone applications so its convenient to use. I don't of any phone wallet that allows you to buy in a grocery like fiat, without any use of a card. Also, I think it would depend on your country and whether the grocery store accepts online payments.

But would be convenient if a wallet provider had this feature, wouldn't it? One that allows us to exchange bitcoin into fiat instantly then acts like visa pay wave or a debit card.
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August 20, 2017, 02:19:17 PM
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Are there any usable options that allow us to load BTC to a phone wallet (only a small amount, so not real worried about security) and then walk into a store and pay for groceries (priced in the local Fiat) using part of the BTC balance?

Clearly there would be no card, so it would have to be some kind of NFC, Android pay, other contactless solution.

I don't think we need any such app. Normal web wallet with in-built option of showing BTC balance in fiat values will work out. You can easily view BTC values in fiats in Coinbase, etc. But think which matter most is whether shop owners accept BTC or not. Any app or wallet could work out only when both buyers and sellers agree to use it.
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August 20, 2017, 02:44:48 PM
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I have no answer for the full question, but I can say that if you have an iPhone, you are pretty much blocked for this...
On iPhone you can have bitcoin wallet and pay in BTC to third parties, or you can have a virtual credit card app and pay in on-line shop, that's it.

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September 06, 2017, 03:45:17 PM
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Are there any usable options that allow us to load BTC to a phone wallet (only a small amount, so not real worried about security) and then walk into a store and pay for groceries (priced in the local Fiat) using part of the BTC balance?

Clearly there would be no card, so it would have to be some kind of NFC, Android pay, other contactless solution.


That’s possible if you find a shopping site that accepts it or if your seller is willing to accept bitcoin as a
form of payment, if that’s not on the list then there is no way, you have to exchange your coin before you can use it as cash.
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September 30, 2017, 05:03:17 PM
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Are there any usable options that allow us to load BTC to a phone wallet (only a small amount, so not real worried about security) and then walk into a store and pay for groceries (priced in the local Fiat) using part of the BTC balance?

Clearly there would be no card, so it would have to be some kind of NFC, Android pay, other contactless solution.

Well there are some alternatives present like Bitpay or Purse (specifically for Amazon). But the thing you finding is not technically possible. The merchant need to have some medium to accept payment even in fiat.
Best option available to use is Debit Card which is redeemable via Bitcoins or altcoins. There are several available but with high fees.
Currently Social Nexus is building a debit card system with their own cryptocurrency much could come up as much cheaper.
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September 30, 2017, 05:10:34 PM
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Are there any usable options that allow us to load BTC to a phone wallet (only a small amount, so not real worried about security) and then walk into a store and pay for groceries (priced in the local Fiat) using part of the BTC balance?

Clearly there would be no card, so it would have to be some kind of NFC, Android pay, other contactless solution.



Well I used to watch a documentary about a woman living for a week using bitcoin.  It just put her phone on something and automatically deducts her bills.  I guess as of today there is no such thing as you are thinking.  But here in my country we can buy phone credits using bitcoin. 
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I don't see any application like that currently. But you can always choose to pay via your wallets and all the barcode scanner features available. The merchant if accepts the bitcoin then they can accept it buy scanning the codes. It is one and the same thing as you are saying here. NFC and contactless tech would be far from now and very futuristic for bitcoin because of all the implementations and related complexity. That will be achieved soon anyway. But for now you can consider it as simple as sending the normal way. Plus you will need to find a merchant first who accepts the bitcoin because as we can see there are rare merchants for now. :-)

 
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