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August 06, 2017, 02:01:05 PM
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Actually the first time I had heard of that project. It's weird that during the hard Fork there seems to be more people scamming off of etherium and other different types of coins besides Bitcoin then Bitcoin itself. I had a big expectations they were going to use Bitcoin cash as a way to steal money from people, not the coin itself but that they would be a lot of software out there they would claim to safely move your Bitcoin to bitcoin cash or whatever and then steal your coins.

But it looks like most of the thief is going on in different parts of the crypto currency world and most people seeing that many people investing in cryptoworld tends to scam people and therefore we should be careful with our coins and their investments.

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August 06, 2017, 02:30:11 PM
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Hello everyone. I have a problem claiming my Bitcoin cash from the private keys.

I had a BTC balance on Electrum wallet before and after the swap. Moved my BTC after the swap to a diff address for security reasons. Now cannot use my private keys, every wallet (Electron cash, coinomi, Bitcoin ABC ) says that there is no funds on those keys, but the block explorer confirms that my Bitcoin Cash is there: https://blockchair.com/bitcoin-cash/address/36XmauGXBMEMjMNbRXxmCWy1X8g9SLEwFC. What am I doing wrong? Anyone has an idea?
Thanks.

Same problem.

Electron cash 2.9.2: when making a wallet "read only" (with private public keys) => correctly shows the balance bitcoin cash.

When making normal wallet, with private keys (with transaction rights) it shows a zero balance.  Huh
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August 06, 2017, 10:51:05 PM
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Hello everyone. I have a problem claiming my Bitcoin cash from the private keys.

I had a BTC balance on Electrum wallet before and after the swap. Moved my BTC after the swap to a diff address for security reasons. Now cannot use my private keys, every wallet (Electron cash, coinomi, Bitcoin ABC ) says that there is no funds on those keys, but the block explorer confirms that my Bitcoin Cash is there: https://blockchair.com/bitcoin-cash/address/36XmauGXBMEMjMNbRXxmCWy1X8g9SLEwFC. What am I doing wrong? Anyone has an idea?
Thanks.

Same problem.

Electron cash 2.9.2: when making a wallet "read only" (with private public keys) => correctly shows the balance bitcoin cash.

When making normal wallet, with private keys (with transaction rights) it shows a zero balance.  Huh

Hi George5 and Martisor-Sobru.
If you have used your priv key through electron cash wallet, you probably get scammed.
you can't move your coins but they have a backup of the priv key... so their wallet is really unsecure to use, both for spend/save bcc.
It's a good sign you can see your coins, maybe they can't spend or they forget it.

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August 07, 2017, 03:03:11 AM
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Hi George5 and Martisor-Sobru.
If you have used your priv key through electron cash wallet, you probably get scammed.
you can't move your coins but they have a backup of the priv key... so their wallet is really unsecure to use, both for spend/save bcc.
It's a good sign you can see your coins, maybe they can't spend or they forget it.

Hi bitbollo,

I don't think that we got scammed. That software is open-source and many people claim that it worked for them.
Besides, I just checked bcc block explorer and all the coins are still there, on my original addresses.
I start wondering if Electrum wallet gave me the wrong private keys (is that even possible???) when I tried to export them?
Otherwise it doesn't make sense why all BCC wallets say that there is no funds on those keys.

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August 07, 2017, 05:52:53 AM
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In my case are private keys given by blockchain.info to an old address of theirs.

I'm thinking about a problem with the new chain bitcoin-cash, because in a similar case (on the romanian forum) a colleague received from the bitcoin-abc wallet, at "transactions": "Open for 200 more blocks" ...and in blockchain he has "total unspent" (balance) correct.
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August 07, 2017, 05:58:47 AM
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Are you using electrum and electron in the same system?

Everyone said in uppercase not to use electron and electrum together
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August 07, 2017, 06:14:27 AM
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In my case: I change HDD effectively.

I do not have two wallets on the same HDD.

(and in Coinomi, android wallet: zero balance)
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August 07, 2017, 07:41:06 AM
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There was a twitter made by electrum about this software:
https://twitter.com/ElectrumWallet/status/891935330235973633
WARNING: "Electron Cash" will copy all your Electrum wallets to its own directory, and their binaries are anonymous

So I am not surprised to read about a clear scam about Electron Cash. Also the name similar to Electrum wallets sounds like a scam Sad

This is just a warning and it is a good one!

BUT Electron Cash will not copy anything it will ask you and only after you supply seed oder keys it will effectively have a copy.
Which is exactly what you want and you don't risk bitcoins if you moved them first.

Most error i've seen is people use the wrong private key or have wrong nodes selected and they get scared, but not one lost the coins because of this software itself.


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August 07, 2017, 08:11:54 AM
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Hi there. So i wanted to give it a try and used a small wallet to check if electron cash is safe to use. Well it is not. I imported a wallet using all the precautions needed to save my bitcoins, and imported a small amount of bcc into the wallet. A couple of minutes later the bcc were sent away like magic. Farewell...

So be carefull!!!

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did you downloaded it from original source, because there are a bunch of website that have similar name of electrum.org but they are indeed a scam site that steal your wallet

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August 07, 2017, 10:07:30 AM
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For me Electron Cash wallet worked like a charm, compiled from source and moved all my coins to a new address before I did the import just to be on the safe side, I got my BCCs in matter of minutes, haven't used it since though.

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August 07, 2017, 10:27:05 AM
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For me Electron Cash wallet worked like a charm, compiled from source and moved all my coins to a new address before I did the import just to be on the safe side, I got my BCCs in matter of minutes, haven't used it since though.
Also you should know that your private keys are exposed to the new electron cash wallet in case if you're planning store coins on the same coins,you must think twice.At the given situations,it's not yet completely marked as safe storage in the system.You should move your BCC coins from that wallet to an exchange or the core wallet.

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August 07, 2017, 10:29:03 AM
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That's exactly what I did before importing the private key. Although I skimmed through the source and didn't notice anything fishy just from glancing and grepping some functions.

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That's exactly what I did before importing the private key. Although I skimmed through the source and didn't notice anything fishy just from glancing and grepping some functions.
Where did you managed to find the source code ? Last I heard they aren't open-sourced yet ? Even if you went through the source,you can't really know what's going on until you understand the encrypting functions.If possible,please give a link to source code.

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August 07, 2017, 11:41:41 AM
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That's exactly what I did before importing the private key. Although I skimmed through the source and didn't notice anything fishy just from glancing and grepping some functions.
Where did you managed to find the source code ? Last I heard they aren't open-sourced yet ? Even if you went through the source,you can't really know what's going on until you understand the encrypting functions.If possible,please give a link to source code.
https://electroncash.org/downloads/2.9.2/win-linux/Electron-Cash-2.9.2.zip It's linked right from their index page.

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August 07, 2017, 09:13:28 PM
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0 bcc at my original bitcoin wallet
0 bcc at my bcc wallet where i 'imported' the private keys

Nah, i was wrong. I put in the wrong address.
The BCC is there.

But:
My electrum wallet is with 2 factor authentification.
So: Electrum Cash software does simply not support it.

So: Either wait for them to update software to fix that,
or take another BCC-Wallet? (Would this work)

Anyone got a tip for me what to do? Can i just install 'any' BCC wallet and do 'restore from private key' and have my BCC? (even though i have 2FA)

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Your 2fa applies only to your wallet not your coins or even less other coin forks or their wallets.

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August 07, 2017, 11:53:04 PM
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same thing happened to me - but then the coins appeared in my wallet again. Its misleading but I don't think elctron cash is a scam. It worked for me to claim my bcc at least without losing anything
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same thing happened to me - but then the coins appeared in my wallet again. Its misleading but I don't think elctron cash is a scam. It worked for me to claim my bcc at least without losing anything

This thread might be started because they are bticoincash haters. Everyone in this forum should expect a lot of misinformation coming from the opposing side. There are people out there who do not want bitcoincash's value to grow because it can become a real potential threat to bitcoin.

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August 08, 2017, 10:26:02 AM
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I installed Electron Cash 2.9.2 just before, and it's trying to connect to pop3 ports on some server, which my firewall stopped.

WTF is that all about?

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Hello everyone. I have a problem claiming my Bitcoin cash from the private keys.

I had a BTC balance on Electrum wallet (with 2fa enabled) before and after the swap. Moved my BTC after the swap to a diff address for security reasons. Now cannot use my private keys, every wallet (Electron cash, coinomi, Bitcoin ABC ) says that there is no funds on those keys, but the block explorer confirms that my Bitcoin Cash is there: https://blockchair.com/bitcoin-cash/address/36XmauGXBMEMjMNbRXxmCWy1X8g9SLEwFC. What am I doing wrong? Anyone has an idea?
Thanks.

Will pay 100$ in BTC to a person who will find a solution to my problem (fyi, I don't have my seed phrase for Electrum wallet)

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