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August 08, 2017, 07:59:15 PM |
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Auf sry for lose bro but there is no way to recover your money because to find a criminal which taked yur money is not possible and punish like that ,online scammers always find some mystake in law and nobody cant punish them or they are pro so nobody cant find them.
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August 09, 2017, 03:21:59 AM |
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If you can, please make this a sticky , people NEED to be warned and i need to find someone to recover 150kusd and get 75kusd for it (Relative to current BTC + BCH prices ) I got robbed of 45.8 BTC (and BCH so total = 150000$) after installing the executable from electrum-wallet.com. I was running multisig but both on the same PC. First i ran the portable electrum.exe from electrum-wallet.com but when it did not load my wallets *NOTE : the ones that had BTC in them ,it loaded just fine any other wallet ) - I don't want to hear opinions on my stupidity After it didn't work i downloaded last version of electrum from electrum.org I'm wondering how the F is it possible that after 2 years of this thread no one has taken down and/or announced the US. authorities fbi etc about it. I'm in Romania and have no wish to deal with this legally, which will probably get me nowhere. I am willing to split the rights on the BTC with whoever is capable of recovering them via detective+legal means. This is the transaction : https://www.blocktrail.com/BTC/tx/78d44db46445d3097996fc644c1221eeead31added5c35cf1b7938737e3b49dbAs i said , I don't want to hear opinions on my stupidity, this is mostly a warning and hopefully a way for someone to make a healthy 75000$. OMG! ![Embarrassed](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/embarrassed.gif) Do you know how much is that in my currency, it is equivalent 0f 5.3 millions here. In your case, I was wondering if you had the private key, and phrase words also the passwords it can't be steal by anyone. I think there's nothing we can do but to accept the facts what happened to your money anyway.
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August 09, 2017, 04:08:39 AM |
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I am sorry to hear this happened to you.
The domain is decent and I can see how you might have thought it was legit.
Unfortunately, there is no way for you to get your Bitcoins back.
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August 13, 2017, 09:38:40 PM |
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Coinbase really should of told everybody that they will distribute BCASH and these thefts wouldn't happen. I blame that exchange.
Most people on Coinbase are complete noobs who had no idea how to even withdraw BTC , let alone split properly.
I blame Coinbase for all these thefts.
BCASH (the ZCASH spin-off) won't be available until 2018. You mean Bitcoin Cash.
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August 13, 2017, 10:02:48 PM |
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Coinbase really should of told everybody that they will distribute BCASH and these thefts wouldn't happen. I blame that exchange.
Most people on Coinbase are complete noobs who had no idea how to even withdraw BTC , let alone split properly.
I blame Coinbase for all these thefts.
There's no such thing as 'should of'. The correct English is 'should have'.
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August 13, 2017, 10:04:46 PM |
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Almost 46 btc is a huge amount of money ! I was also searching for a method to cash in my bitcoin cash and saw that exact think to do what I needed. The author from where I saw about this was also saying to try it on our own risk because there could be some theft in that electrum- wallet because it is not from electrum and it was a third party software. Hope you get justice somehow and someday . And if that happens, hope you share your story.
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August 13, 2017, 11:11:34 PM |
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Wow, that is crazy to hear. The site is an absolute scam and everyone should report it. 45 BTC is quite alot. I think your best bet would be to email abuse@namecheap.com and ask for the owner of the registered domain electrum-wallet.com Maybe put a small hint that you have been robbed off of 45 BTC equal to XXX amount of USD and that you are pressing legal charges and will inform your authorities of this, also whoever registered the domain is using Namecheaps service WhoisGuard for anonymity which you could question and threaten that you report this to ICANN for their view on this matter. According to ICANN, "The Internet Corporation for Assigned Names and Numbers (ICANN) broadly requires the mailing address, phone number, and e-mail address of those owning or administrating a domain name to be made publicly available through the "WHOIS" directories." Which means that anonymous domain registrations aren't allowed and that mailing adress, phone number and email to the person administrating the site should be public information. It is a long shot, but my best bet would be to email the domain provider and explain the matter and question how they are currently supporting criminal activities and also witholding important information on the person who is scamming users. Sorry for your loss man! but this is the way to go its a start, good luck
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August 13, 2017, 11:16:06 PM |
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Lesson here is to cary your BTC on hardware wallets at all times!
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August 14, 2017, 12:53:18 AM |
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Oh. my. god. ![Cry](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cry.gif) 45 bitcoins... I'm so sorry for your loss, even though i have no advice to give you i gladly reported this scam website but i'm kinda baffled on how someone with so much bitcoins could fall for such a bait and not pay attention and it made me even more paranoid ![Shocked](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/shocked.gif) . I hope you do find a way to get them back and get the scammer behind bars ![Undecided](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/undecided.gif) .
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August 14, 2017, 05:51:16 AM |
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^ Chances are if the ppl behind this are smart enough to create a wallet that can wipe out your machines wallets, they've thought well past domain/hosting/ID's/IP's/legal/whatifs/unforeseens/etc. Best case scenario namecheap and the host give up intel that's probably daisy chained to dead ends imo. I'm sure they won't be around long but all it takes is a new domain.whatever and another indi/loose/foreign hosting and they're up again.
** I hate scammers as much as anyone else, however, like anyone else, I'm fascinated by the schemes they execute and must admit this shit was clever, timed, and paid the fawk off for these guys. What a beautiful and cruel world.
As much as hate to admit it you have a point, i have seen cases where when this cases happen best you can get close is the ip address and the country the hack was done from, but in this case its was done from from a program the victim gave permission to, i am sure they would have tied up loose ends except it was a fluke and if it is then, it is worth a shot to report to the authorities If you can, please make this a sticky , people NEED to be warned and i need to find someone to recover 150kusd and get 75kusd for it (Relative to current BTC + BCH prices ) I got robbed of 45.8 BTC (and BCH so total = 150000$) after installing the executable from electrum-wallet.com. I was running multisig but both on the same PC. First i ran the portable electrum.exe from electrum-wallet.com but when it did not load my wallets *NOTE : the ones that had BTC in them ,it loaded just fine any other wallet ) - I don't want to hear opinions on my stupidity After it didn't work i downloaded last version of electrum from electrum.org I'm wondering how the F is it possible that after 2 years of this thread no one has taken down and/or announced the US. authorities fbi etc about it. I'm in Romania and have no wish to deal with this legally, which will probably get me nowhere. I am willing to split the rights on the BTC with whoever is capable of recovering them via detective+legal means. This is the transaction : https://www.blocktrail.com/BTC/tx/78d44db46445d3097996fc644c1221eeead31added5c35cf1b7938737e3b49dbAs i said , I don't want to hear opinions on my stupidity, this is mostly a warning and hopefully a way for someone to make a healthy 75000$. thanks for the warning op. maybe ill be more carefull about what im downloading from now on. and ihope more people being read this not to ignore to be help them as a warning. Is OP alive? Just for his information I gathered some info that you can use to further your search for your Bitcoins. Heres an IP of the company who owns the domain IP Location Germany Germany Waldbrunn Ip Projects ASN Germany AS31400 ACCELERATED-IT, DE (registered May 06, 2004) Resolve Host xxx Whois Server whois.ripe.net IP Address 82.211.xxxx Reverse IP 2 websites use this address. Additionally, if you believe you are a victim of an Internet crime, or if you are aware of an attempted crime, you can file a complaint through Internet Crime Complaint Center at https://complaint.ic3.gov , who are in the best position to fully investigate any such issue across any/all service providers. And behold; REGISTRANT CONTACT Name:Alexandr XXX Street:ul. Gincharnaya XXX City:Moscow State:Moscow Postal Code:101XXX Country:RU Phone:+7.XXXXX Email:email@mail.ru The ball is in your hands now, OP you did a really good job men. now op has this information to report this scammer. i hope that who did this scam got to jail more years to pay what he did to you (op). we support you in this fight against scamer. I'm pretty sure this won't help you but I live like 10min away from this hoster, small world... Great work getting the details of the scammer, i hope it was a fluke and they would be stupid enough to give valid address.
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August 14, 2017, 02:57:06 PM |
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Oh. my. god. ![Cry](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cry.gif) 45 bitcoins... I'm so sorry for your loss, even though i have no advice to give you i gladly reported this scam website but i'm kinda baffled on how someone with so much bitcoins could fall for such a bait and not pay attention and it made me even more paranoid ![Shocked](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/shocked.gif) . I hope you do find a way to get them back and get the scammer behind bars ![Undecided](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/undecided.gif) . Recovering 45 BTC in current times is Herculean unless you have the money to buy again straight away else you might rue for a long time and might not recover that much any time soon.
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August 14, 2017, 03:04:23 PM |
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I don't think ridiculing the guy is a good idea to be honest. Losing that amount of money is no joke.
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August 14, 2017, 03:10:58 PM |
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There is many people try to make a fake website that mimic the real one You have to be extra careful and double check everything before you move your bitcoin I have fall victim once and from that point on,i am always extra careful before entering some shady website
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August 14, 2017, 03:36:54 PM |
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Dang! That's a lot of money! If it were me, i would think not just twice but 10 times before i trust any site! Gawd! I might even over react and be paranoid with even a single flaw i see! I would've asked around first before I do anything! Because again, that is such a big amount heck i dont even have bits of btc and can only dream of having even one.
But doesn't matter anyway, at least with this, a lot has learned. And hopefully you also op. Thanks for sharing your story.
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August 14, 2017, 03:42:24 PM |
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Is OP alive? Just for his information I gathered some info that you can use to further your search for your Bitcoins. Heres an IP of the company who owns the domain IP Location Germany Germany Waldbrunn Ip Projects ASN Germany AS31400 ACCELERATED-IT, DE (registered May 06, 2004) Resolve Host xxx Whois Server whois.ripe.net IP Address 82.211.xxxx Reverse IP 2 websites use this address. Additionally, if you believe you are a victim of an Internet crime, or if you are aware of an attempted crime, you can file a complaint through Internet Crime Complaint Center at https://complaint.ic3.gov , who are in the best position to fully investigate any such issue across any/all service providers. And behold; REGISTRANT CONTACT Name:Alexandr XXX Street:ul. Gincharnaya XXX City:Moscow State:Moscow Postal Code:101XXX Country:RU Phone:+7.XXXXX Email:email@mail.ru The ball is in your hands now, OP Wow man, your frreaking amazing! Damn! Hope op finds this helpful and gets his possessions back. Because what happened to op is just so heartbreaking. Makes me want to beat the sht out of that lazy scammer who can't get btc the right way. Those coins are the fruit of op's blood and sweat. That fcking scammer didn't even try to think about putting himself in other people's shoes. I hope he gets the worsh punishment possible and karma finds its way to him.
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August 14, 2017, 04:26:09 PM |
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This is really horrible. At today's exchange rate, the total value of coins stolen (BTC+BCH) was close to $200,000. My advice to the OP would be to contact the cops in his hometown. Does anyone know about the nationality of the OP?
Note: Just noticed that the OP is from Romania.
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August 14, 2017, 04:34:04 PM |
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executable from electrum-wallet.com.
I don't want to hear opinions on my stupidity.
Fucking idiots can't be fixed. You are going to hear about your stupidity whether you like it or not. Idiot. Way too much to fucking get phished on, when dealing with money people need to take precautions and not just fucking click random links or Google. The problem is that people need to change their behavior when dealing with money and they do not, for example if you are going to use your computer to store money, in this case bitcoin, then avoid installing anything other than the necessary tools and avoid downloading pirate software and do not click in every link you see, since it is possible that you lose your money if a virus gets in your computer.
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August 14, 2017, 06:14:09 PM |
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executable from electrum-wallet.com.
I don't want to hear opinions on my stupidity.
Fucking idiots can't be fixed. You are going to hear about your stupidity whether you like it or not. Idiot. Way too much to fucking get phished on, when dealing with money people need to take precautions and not just fucking click random links or Google. The problem is that people need to change their behavior when dealing with money and they do not, for example if you are going to use your computer to store money, in this case bitcoin, then avoid installing anything other than the necessary tools and avoid downloading pirate software and do not click in every link you see, since it is possible that you lose your money if a virus gets in your computer. With any higher amount that petty cash buy a damn Chromebook and use a trezor or keepkey. Don't fuck around with random .exe why not use linux+electrum instead of trusting trezor hardware wallet when you can't be sure that's it's not tempered in transit ![Tongue](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/tongue.gif)
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August 14, 2017, 06:37:45 PM |
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You should blame Bitcoin cash people to cause this for you, when they enact a total double spent split this opens doors for others to dare stealing from us. Theymos putted the link in forum header for a long time, pretty much ever since the split happened. where did you hear about electrum in the first place? you must've heard about it in this forum that means you should have at least visited the original electrum site once, you gave away your coins willingly and voluntarily, there is nothing anybody could do here, I know we have some badass hackers around but not even they can hack in to Bitcoin. lol
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August 14, 2017, 06:39:09 PM |
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All these suggestions and pieces of advice here are totally baseless and needless now. We should be asking if OP is still alive after reporting that incidence here. I sincerely hope he hasn't committed suicide for that isn't a small amount of cash to lose.
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