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August 06, 2017, 02:20:59 PM
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It's really threatening not only in my country, the Philippines but also the other claimants of disputed islands in SCS. China is aggresive and a bully to other countries, they can't respect the countries who are also claming the islands.
Their 9 dash line is a fvcking bs though.

I think that the only solution is for all the other countries to unite (including Japan, India and Taiwan), and to defend their territories from the Chinese aggression. Now it seems like China may attack the Indian forces in the Doklam plateau in Bhutan. In that case, all the other nations must send their troops to Doklam, to support the Indians.

I've recently seen a vid on Youtube about Doklam. No wonder India is really pissed off. China getting a foot hold there means it would be possible for them to cut-off India's north-eastern states, like Megalhaya and Sikkim.





Basically the same cabbage approach they are using against other SE Asian claimants, take over one part, and then slowly push out from that.
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August 06, 2017, 02:26:01 PM
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I've recently seen a vid on Youtube about Doklam. No wonder India is really pissed off. China getting a foot hold there means it would be possible for them to cut-off India's north-eastern states, like Megalhaya and Sikkim.

The Chinese have their claims over Arunachal Pradesh, and this may be a reason why they want to cut-off mainland India from the northeast. But I guess the Indian army is stronger now, when compared to the situation they had in 1962.
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August 06, 2017, 03:19:02 PM
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As usual, the Chinese are creating unnecessary provocations. I suggest the Americans to take a more active role in the conflict here, rather than wasting their time and effort in provoking Kim Jong Un in North Korea.

Yes I too agree with you that the America should not provoke the Norkor and instead help countries near China to stop them building facilities on the place they did not own.  China was making its modern way of invasion to expand their territory.  They are using their manpower and wealth to do invasion as maybe they are lacking resources right now to feed its people.  But will Trump amicable in talking with this case as the US owe China big time.
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August 07, 2017, 05:59:42 AM
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As usual, the Chinese are creating unnecessary provocations. I suggest the Americans to take a more active role in the conflict here, rather than wasting their time and effort in provoking Kim Jong Un in North Korea.

Yes I too agree with you that the America should not provoke the Norkor and instead help countries near China to stop them building facilities on the place they did not own.  China was making its modern way of invasion to expand their territory.  They are using their manpower and wealth to do invasion as maybe they are lacking resources right now to feed its people.  But will Trump amicable in talking with this case as the US owe China big time.

The Americans must quickly build military bases in the islands which are currently under the control of allied nations such as the Philippines. Also, they need to provide quality weapons to these nations. The US can also consider helping India, which is currently having strained relations with China.

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August 07, 2017, 07:35:02 AM
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As usual, the Chinese are creating unnecessary provocations. I suggest the Americans to take a more active role in the conflict here, rather than wasting their time and effort in provoking Kim Jong Un in North Korea.

Yes I too agree with you that the America should not provoke the Norkor and instead help countries near China to stop them building facilities on the place they did not own.  China was making its modern way of invasion to expand their territory.  They are using their manpower and wealth to do invasion as maybe they are lacking resources right now to feed its people.  But will Trump amicable in talking with this case as the US owe China big time.

The Americans must quickly build military bases in the islands which are currently under the control of allied nations such as the Philippines. Also, they need to provide quality weapons to these nations. The US can also consider helping India, which is currently having strained relations with China.

Once the americans build their own bases then I think that would be the fuse to light wverything up. What i think we should do is to make the chinese nation be held accountable by using the united nations to put them in court and make them explain and submit to the rules of the sea and territories that govern the asian region.
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August 07, 2017, 01:59:46 PM
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As usual, the Chinese are creating unnecessary provocations. I suggest the Americans to take a more active role in the conflict here, rather than wasting their time and effort in provoking Kim Jong Un in North Korea.

Yes I too agree with you that the America should not provoke the Norkor and instead help countries near China to stop them building facilities on the place they did not own.  China was making its modern way of invasion to expand their territory.  They are using their manpower and wealth to do invasion as maybe they are lacking resources right now to feed its people.  But will Trump amicable in talking with this case as the US owe China big time.

The Americans must quickly build military bases in the islands which are currently under the control of allied nations such as the Philippines. Also, they need to provide quality weapons to these nations. The US can also consider helping India, which is currently having strained relations with China.

It's too late now. China has already completely reclaimed several shallow islets and many of them now have runways as well as space for missile launchers. America trying to get in there could make the situation more unpredictable.

It also doesn't help that the Philippines is pretty much the only ally US have in there among the claimants. American presence there could be used by China to drive a wedge between ASEAN claimants, further preventing them from coming up with a concerted action to stop Beijing's cabbage patch from overgrowing the entire area. For example, Vietnam could be suspicious of increased American presence, considering their history.

ASEAN did came up with a harsher than expected statement against the Chinese causing tension in the region, which was surprising considering China have its chum Cambodia in the bloc. (ASEAN operates by consensus, meaning only once member disagreeing can throw off everything.)

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-asean-philippines-southchinasea-state-idUSKBN1AM0IR

http://news.abs-cbn.com/focus/08/07/17/read-50th-asean-foreign-ministers-meeting-joint-communique


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August 07, 2017, 02:07:12 PM
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Once the americans build their own bases then I think that would be the fuse to light wverything up. What i think we should do is to make the chinese nation be held accountable by using the united nations to put them in court and make them explain and submit to the rules of the sea and territories that govern the asian region.

The United Nations is a toothless body incapable of not doing anything. Rather than expecting the UN to take action, the US must act first and secure what is left of the South China Sea. Else, China is going to swallow the entire region.
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August 08, 2017, 04:59:15 AM
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It also doesn't help that the Philippines is pretty much the only ally US have in there among the claimants.

That is not entirely true. Taiwan has been an ally of the United States for many decades. Also, Vietnam has recently moved to the NATO sphere, especially after the disintegration of the USSR. Other nations such as Malaysia and Indonesia are also more favorable to the US than towards China.

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August 08, 2017, 03:11:11 PM
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It also doesn't help that the Philippines is pretty much the only ally US have in there among the claimants.

That is not entirely true. Taiwan has been an ally of the United States for many decades. Also, Vietnam has recently moved to the NATO sphere, especially after the disintegration of the USSR. Other nations such as Malaysia and Indonesia are also more favorable to the US than towards China.

Taiwan is not considered a sovereign nation though, that's why you don't see them invited in meetings like China, US, Japan and North Korea had representatives in the ASEAN meeting. If the US try to use their influence in Taiwan, China will just accuse America of warmongering, after all China considers Taiwan as a renegade province. Also, whatever claim China have on the S China Sea is the same claim Taiwan is making.

As for Malaysia and Indonesia, I don't hear them calling themselves US allies though they are not as hostile to the US as the current Philippine administration. Jeez, what a sellout that old geezer is. The only reason the issue was ever mentioned on the communique was because Vietnam insisted.
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Regarding the Doklam status, India has no right to interfere. It's positioning it's troop to a nation stating right of another nation.

The motive of India seem disastrous as there were no Chinese army in the region, they just wanted to obstruct a road construction.
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Regarding the Doklam status, India has no right to interfere. It's positioning it's troop to a nation stating right of another nation.

The motive of India seem disastrous as there were no Chinese army in the region, they just wanted to obstruct a road construction.

Doklam is a part of Bhutan, as per the international laws. Since Bhutan is incapable of defending its territory against a bully such as China, it has requested the Indians to interfere and help.

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No one really in that region has the strength to challenge china militarily so they're bullying small countries likenthe philippines. I mean what can these countries do right? And western countries also will risk war if they initiated a military response since it's beyond their scope already

There are two solutions to this issue. The first one is to leave the entire South China Sea to the Chinese. Considering the weak military might of nations such as the Philippines and Vietnam, I don't think that a military confrontation by these nations against China is a viable option. The other option is for the United States to take a lead role, and set up naval and army facilities in the Spratly Islands group.

China has better chances to win a war against usa in the golf of mexico than america winning in the scs. Which nation can fight the biggest manufacturing power on earth in it's sewage water? Unless the goal is to kill as many as possible american patriots...

Chinese military is on par with arab nations.
They just have quantity which doesnt matter much in a modern war.

I agree with you there but the thing is, it would have to come from the west. Souht china sea is just a stone's throw away from china and the us would have to drag its military might all the way to the east. The countries around the diaputed seas don't really match up whether its quality or quantity of military might

 
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August 11, 2017, 12:08:16 PM
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China has built a new military facility on the islands of the South China Sea. The Chinese military project was revealed from a satellite image reported by a US think tank.

The Asia Maritime Transparency Initiative (AMTI), a section of the Washington-based Center for Strategic and International Studies (CSIS), reported in its report that a new satellite image shows missile shelters as well as radar and communications facilities built on Fiery Cross, Mischief and Subi Reef In the Spratly Islands, South China Sea.

The United States criticized the construction of China's military facilities on the artificial islands for fear that Washington's regional navigation freedom is missing.

Last month, a US Navy warship sailed within 12 nautical miles on the Mischief Reef with a patrol claim of freedom of navigation. The warship patrol near the Chinese-made island was the first since Donald Trump served as US president.

Washington accuses Beijing of militarization in the disputed region. But China denied it.

Islands in the South China Sea are disputed between China and other Asian countries such as Brunei, Malaysia, the Philippines, Taiwan and Vietnam.

China, according to AMTI, has previously built four new missile shelters at Fiery Cross Reef. Mischief and Subi each have eight shelters.

In a recent AMTI report, it was mentioned that a large dome was recently installed in Fiery Cross and another one is under construction. The facility is a great communication or radar system. Two other domes, according to AMTI, were also built on Mischief Reef.

"Beijing can now use military assets, including fighter jets and missile launchers to move to the Spratly Islands at any time," the AMTI report said.

Beijing's government and military have not responded to the report of the US think tank. However, China has insisted that the islands in the South China Sea are its sovereign territory, where Beijing claims almost the entire South China Sea region.

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China is a major growing economy in the world, they are looking to become a world superpower and they have the required potential. As it is ruled by the communists, they have the expansionist policy since the beginning. This is just a one chapter of their expansionist policy, they have border dispute with almost every neighboring country and its their tradition to claim the other territories to achieve their goal.
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August 11, 2017, 12:20:46 PM
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Regarding the Doklam status, India has no right to interfere. It's positioning it's troop to a nation stating right of another nation.

The motive of India seem disastrous as there were no Chinese army in the region, they just wanted to obstruct a road construction.

Doklam is a part of Bhutan, as per the international laws. Since Bhutan is incapable of defending its territory against a bully such as China, it has requested the Indians to interfere and help.

China can bully smaller countries only and this time they were trying to bully Bhutan. But its India who came forward upon the bhutan's request to defend their territory and that road is also threat for India's security. India has every right to stop China's hegemony and defend bhutan's territory. As of now India has shown some tough stand and forced China to stop the construction of road in disputed area. Its almost two months but China is still just threatening India but no action has been taken by their army. On other hand India is also ready for limited war but both the  countries will try to resolve the issues by diplomatic channels.
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August 11, 2017, 02:43:01 PM
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The problem which country among your listed above are doing anything about corruptions? I include usa. None. All are fucking muppets unable to understand the basic tenent of war: integrity in the chain of command and accross the people of the nation. Look at yourself for once... and fucking stop dreaming about dead americans and westerners for your unability to one not steal from china when in transition and two for your unlimited greed that makes all your contries little nothing in the ressources domains. In the next 5 years china project is to lift 70 millions people out of poverety. And remember who can build can destroy so much faster, it's so easier.

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What could you do? You would need to think... isn't it easier to loot your citizens and then beg for help from the west while then claiming your independance? Wouldn't it be beneficial for the west to have china restored? Your growth is deterimental, your influences and corruptions nefast to china and the west... and ultimately it's just a road...

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August 11, 2017, 03:22:53 PM
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China has built a new military facility on the islands of the South China Sea. The Chinese military project was revealed from a satellite image reported by a US think tank.

The Asia Maritime Transparency Initiative (AMTI), a section of the Washington-based Center for Strategic and International Studies (CSIS), reported in its report that a new satellite image shows missile shelters as well as radar and communications facilities built on Fiery Cross, Mischief and Subi Reef In the Spratly Islands, South China Sea.

The United States criticized the construction of China's military facilities on the artificial islands for fear that Washington's regional navigation freedom is missing.

Last month, a US Navy warship sailed within 12 nautical miles on the Mischief Reef with a patrol claim of freedom of navigation. The warship patrol near the Chinese-made island was the first since Donald Trump served as US president.

Washington accuses Beijing of militarization in the disputed region. But China denied it.

Islands in the South China Sea are disputed between China and other Asian countries such as Brunei, Malaysia, the Philippines, Taiwan and Vietnam.

China, according to AMTI, has previously built four new missile shelters at Fiery Cross Reef. Mischief and Subi each have eight shelters.

In a recent AMTI report, it was mentioned that a large dome was recently installed in Fiery Cross and another one is under construction. The facility is a great communication or radar system. Two other domes, according to AMTI, were also built on Mischief Reef.

"Beijing can now use military assets, including fighter jets and missile launchers to move to the Spratly Islands at any time," the AMTI report said.

Beijing's government and military have not responded to the report of the US think tank. However, China has insisted that the islands in the South China Sea are its sovereign territory, where Beijing claims almost the entire South China Sea region.

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I just know this, if that's true it can be dangerous, because as we know that china is almost in control of the trading system in this case electronic goods, i do not know why china started to create missiles, maybe there is agreement between china and north korea. I hope there will be no more war after the second world war.
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August 11, 2017, 03:25:42 PM
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China can bully smaller countries only and this time they were trying to bully Bhutan. But its India who came forward upon the bhutan's request to defend their territory and that road is also threat for India's security. India has every right to stop China's hegemony and defend bhutan's territory. As of now India has shown some tough stand and forced China to stop the construction of road in disputed area. Its almost two months but China is still just threatening India but no action has been taken by their army. On other hand India is also ready for limited war but both the  countries will try to resolve the issues by diplomatic channels.

China doesn't have the balls to confront stronger nations such as Japan and the United States. There is a territorial dispute between Japan and China, over the Senkaku Islands. This region is still under the Japanese rule.
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They are just starting from the outskirts of their place.
They have a long way to go before placing one in the Atlantic.
Why is the USA complaining about this when they have been building and placing their so called Missiles defence system all around Russia, the Americans as requested very hypocritical when they accuse China of doing exactly what they have been doing around Russia, what's the freedom in that.

 
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The Chinese are having dispute with all of it's neighbours and it's not new to them. Can you find Tibet on the map now.? No. Because China is occupying it illegally. Only if all of the neighbors of China teams up then only it'll be controlled and it is necessary actually.

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August 11, 2017, 05:28:32 PM
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The Chinese are having dispute with all of it's neighbours and it's not new to them. Can you find Tibet on the map now.? No. Because China is occupying it illegally. Only if all of the neighbors of China teams up then only it'll be controlled and it is necessary actually.

Yeah, everyone knows that how china has illegally and forcefully occupied Tibet. In the past, India lodged their protest and supported independence of tibet but when sikkim became part of india, china refused to acknowledge it. Later on both countries came to mutual agreement , wherein china acknowledged sikkim as a part of india and India acknowledged tibet as a part of China.
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