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Author Topic: Remember last October when BFL said they would ship by the end of the month?  (Read 2911 times)
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May 16, 2013, 06:18:04 PM
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remember when BFL announced their fpga single 1.05 GH/s @ 20W shipping in 14? days...
Their poor track record, has begun with the first product.
Liars from the beginning

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May 16, 2013, 07:57:59 PM
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Oh look another bfl fucked us over again thread!
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May 16, 2013, 07:58:33 PM
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This is why Josh is so busy demonizing his detractors and throwing up an amazing smoke screen to confuse the issue. If anybody really looks at the indisputable facts surrounding the delays there are really only 2 conclusions to come to. Either A) BFL is extremely incompetent or B) BFL is blatantly lying. There is no third option where they are the innocent victim of unfortunate circumstances.
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May 17, 2013, 03:21:01 AM
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Just Over Shipping Hasn't / Josh .. Probably he likes to delay the shipping because he hasn't make the Best Product yet liked Roll Royce or Lamborghini but the Toyota and Honda is just as good getting you from point A to point B.
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May 17, 2013, 03:29:05 AM
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I think a lot of the issue concerning manufacturers stems from recourse down the line, especially BFL's 'lifetime guarantee'.

They can't release working products into the wild unless thu know they are safe and failsafe, otherwise the costs could become astronomical to repair all units prone to failure.

Heating and power being the issue it is, fire safety is a huge issue.

I don't think the DIYers care so much about this, that said I fear the bulk PCB and Avalon chip collaborators haven't thought this issue through greatly either.

EU manufacturers and importers legally have to take into account the WEEE directive, which is a requirement for manufacturing or importing any electrical goods into any EU country.


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May 17, 2013, 08:45:38 AM
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I think a lot of the issue concerning manufacturers stems from recourse down the line, especially BFL's 'lifetime guarantee'.

They can't release working products into the wild unless thu know they are safe and failsafe, otherwise the costs could become astronomical to repair all units prone to failure.

Heating and power being the issue it is, fire safety is a huge issue.

I don't think the DIYers care so much about this, that said I fear the bulk PCB and Avalon chip collaborators haven't thought this issue through greatly either.

EU manufacturers and importers legally have to take into account the WEEE directive, which is a requirement for manufacturing or importing any electrical goods into any EU country.



What about unfinished components?
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May 17, 2013, 12:20:37 PM
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I think a lot of the issue concerning manufacturers stems from recourse down the line, especially BFL's 'lifetime guarantee'.

They can't release working products into the wild unless thu know they are safe and failsafe, otherwise the costs could become astronomical to repair all units prone to failure.

Heating and power being the issue it is, fire safety is a huge issue.

I don't think the DIYers care so much about this, that said I fear the bulk PCB and Avalon chip collaborators haven't thought this issue through greatly either.

EU manufacturers and importers legally have to take into account the WEEE directive, which is a requirement for manufacturing or importing any electrical goods into any EU country.



What about unfinished components?

Q. Are component parts of electrical equipment considered to be EEE?

A. Components cover the range of discrete items that form part of a finished product and thus enable it to work properly, for example transistors, capacitors, diodes or internal wiring. Sub-assemblies are packages of components assembled into discrete units, such as display panels or populated circuit boards. Components and sub-assemblies supplied for further manufacture or assembly are not finished products and are therefore not considered to be EEE in their own right.

So actually you may be ok...certainly the chips, and say Burnin's empty pcb boards, but not 100% on if Burnin's assembled boards with cooling are. I guess though without a power supply they come under 'populated sub-assembly's' and may be ok...?

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May 17, 2013, 01:57:46 PM
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Ya it's weird. It's almost like BFL is a scam or something.

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May 17, 2013, 02:50:40 PM
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I think the person to ask is wogaut (sp?).

What?
Last time I checked we got our Singles SC from wogaut ( https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=88008.msg1031266#msg1031266 and also scroll down a little) . Once he receives them from BFL he will transfer them to ciuciu, Therefore wogaut is in contact with BFL, not ciuciu.

Edit: Also: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=92267.0  I will ask.

hm, ok. and thanks for asking. I had no idea about any of this above. Confusing to me, except for the part someone is cheaper than bfl. dang this is taking forever, for what ever machines we are suppose to get.

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We are two months off, from being a year away on that post, holy shit.

I dunno what to say, maybe I lost two bitcoins or two shares, if I did, uh well, it will the first. Back then bitcoin I think was around 10-14 a piece or 3-7 a piece. I guess my shares are worth one bitcoin :/ cyrptostocks says, 1 btc= atm 118USD, Lost in btc, gained in USD, literally, I'm basically am empty handed over this because no unit has been received.
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