nicehash.com vs zpool.ca vs miningpoolhub.com - And the winner is...

[alucard20724]

The following will be running:

Baikal #1 - Nicehash
Baikal #2 - Zpool
Baikal #3 - miningpoolhub
Baikal #4 - Nicehash custom pricing profit trigger + Zpool + Nicehash as backup
Baikal #5 - Nicehash custom pricing profit trigger + miningpoolhub + Nicehash as backup

can you share your baikal settings for #4.

I have a few mini's i want to configure for the same thing... currently i have zpool as primary and nicehash as backup.  what are these trigger settings you have?

thanks.

[alucard20724]

and have you thought about running it with hashrefinery?
i have set up mine using the settings for zpool to run hashrefinery.

[Ni Ow]

I can confirm zpool doing better result overall !

[Tai_Pan]

pikachuy,
what settings did you use for your baikal to change automatically algo on zpool based on profit?

I read the info on zpool but it kind of got me head aches

[pikachuy]

pikachuy,
what settings did you use for your baikal to change automatically algo on zpool based on profit?

I read the info on zpool but it kind of got me head aches

It's automatically done in the Baikal settings page, all you need to do is delete the current pools, and click on zpool button and it automatically add all the pools of the aglo for you.

[dalu1]

pikachuy,

When you use the price trigger on nicehash,  what is the unit?   The example given in the help page  has 'p=4.0'.  what is 4.0 means?  is it means mbtc per MHs?

Thanks

[pikachuy]

pikachuy,

When you use the price trigger on nicehash,  what is the unit?   The example given in the help page  has 'p=4.0'.  what is 4.0 means?  is it means mbtc per MHs?

Thanks

It's on https://www.nicehash.com/algorithm for paying.

[Tai_Pan]

pikachuy,
what settings did you use for your baikal to change automatically algo on zpool based on profit?

I read the info on zpool but it kind of got me head aches

It's automatically done in the Baikal settings page, all you need to do is delete the current pools, and click on zpool button and it automatically add all the pools of the aglo for you.

Thanks for the reply.
But I guess I'll have to have priority "0" for the zpool algos inside baikal in order for it to be able to automatically switch, no?

[pikachuy]

pikachuy,
what settings did you use for your baikal to change automatically algo on zpool based on profit?

I read the info on zpool but it kind of got me head aches

It's automatically done in the Baikal settings page, all you need to do is delete the current pools, and click on zpool button and it automatically add all the pools of the aglo for you.

Thanks for the reply.
But I guess I'll have to have priority "0" for the zpool algos inside baikal in order for it to be able to automatically switch, no?

They automatically set the priority for you, but if you want multiple pools and you want zpool has first priority, then yes, it'll start with priority "0" and up. So if you have like 10 pools and you want the 10th pool to be last priority, then that would end with priority "9", since the first priority starts with "0"

Hope that makes sense.

[Tai_Pan]

pikachuy,
what settings did you use for your baikal to change automatically algo on zpool based on profit?

I read the info on zpool but it kind of got me head aches

It's automatically done in the Baikal settings page, all you need to do is delete the current pools, and click on zpool button and it automatically add all the pools of the aglo for you.

Thanks for the reply.
But I guess I'll have to have priority "0" for the zpool algos inside baikal in order for it to be able to automatically switch, no?

They automatically set the priority for you, but if you want multiple pools and you want zpool has first priority, then yes, it'll start with priority "0" and up. So if you have like 10 pools and you want the 10th pool to be last priority, then that would end with priority "9", since the first priority starts with "0"

Hope that makes sense.

What I was asking was:

let's say for example that for zpool there are 3 algos.
so that means 3 lines to complete each ( url - user - algo - pass - priority )
to each one of the 3 lines I have to set the priority as "0" in order for the miner to know to autoswitch inside the same pool.
Right?

[pikachuy]

pikachuy,
what settings did you use for your baikal to change automatically algo on zpool based on profit?

I read the info on zpool but it kind of got me head aches

It's automatically done in the Baikal settings page, all you need to do is delete the current pools, and click on zpool button and it automatically add all the pools of the aglo for you.

Thanks for the reply.
But I guess I'll have to have priority "0" for the zpool algos inside baikal in order for it to be able to automatically switch, no?

They automatically set the priority for you, but if you want multiple pools and you want zpool has first priority, then yes, it'll start with priority "0" and up. So if you have like 10 pools and you want the 10th pool to be last priority, then that would end with priority "9", since the first priority starts with "0"

Hope that makes sense.

What I was asking was:

let's say for example that for zpool there are 3 algos.
so that means 3 lines to complete each ( url - user - algo - pass - priority )
to each one of the 3 lines I have to set the priority as "0" in order for the miner to know to autoswitch inside the same pool.
Right?

Yes, you will need to set 3 lines.

Line 1....Priority 0
Line 2....Priority 1
Line 3....Priority 2
etc.

Zpool will do the auto-switch for you by connecting and disconnecting the most/least profit. So if algo 1 has priority 0, and algo 2 has priority 1 and is the most profit at the time, then Zpool will not let you connect to line 1, so since line 1 can't connect, it'll try line 2 as a back up, and it repeats it self. That's how it auto-profit/switch for you, by disconnecting all the least profit at the time and only allowing you to connect the most profit at the time. It goes down the list like a fail-safe backup pool. That is where the Priority 0,1,2,3, and etc goes in effect, it gives it an order of which fail-safe pool to try next.

Hope this makes sense.

[Tai_Pan]

pikachuy,
what settings did you use for your baikal to change automatically algo on zpool based on profit?

I read the info on zpool but it kind of got me head aches

It's automatically done in the Baikal settings page, all you need to do is delete the current pools, and click on zpool button and it automatically add all the pools of the aglo for you.

Thanks for the reply.
But I guess I'll have to have priority "0" for the zpool algos inside baikal in order for it to be able to automatically switch, no?

They automatically set the priority for you, but if you want multiple pools and you want zpool has first priority, then yes, it'll start with priority "0" and up. So if you have like 10 pools and you want the 10th pool to be last priority, then that would end with priority "9", since the first priority starts with "0"

Hope that makes sense.

What I was asking was:

let's say for example that for zpool there are 3 algos.
so that means 3 lines to complete each ( url - user - algo - pass - priority )
to each one of the 3 lines I have to set the priority as "0" in order for the miner to know to autoswitch inside the same pool.
Right?

Yes, you will need to set 3 lines.

Line 1....Priority 0
Line 2....Priority 1
Line 3....Priority 2
etc.

Zpool will do the auto-switch for you by connecting and disconnecting the most/least profit. So if algo 1 has priority 0, and algo 2 has priority 1 and is the most profit at the time, then Zpool will not let you connect to line 1, so since line 1 can't connect, it'll try line 2 as a back up, and it repeats it self. That's how it auto-profit/switch for you, by disconnecting all the least profit at the time and only allowing you to connect the most profit at the time. It goes down the list like a fail-safe backup pool. That is where the Priority 0,1,2,3, and etc goes in effect, it gives it an order of which fail-safe pool to try next.

Hope this makes sense.

Thanks.

Weird.
As far as I can remember on mininghubpool you had to put all the algos on priority 0 in order for the miner to know the auto-switching part but this was a while ago.

What about nicehash? Does it have something like this auto-switching stuff special settings?

[pikachuy]

If you click on one of the preset settings like nicehash, zpool, or miningpoolhub, it auto plugs the lines for you. It all works the same way as previously mentioned.

[Tai_Pan]

If you click on one of the preset settings like nicehash, zpool, or miningpoolhub, it auto plugs the lines for you. It all works the same way as previously mentioned.

Ok, thank you very much.
I will try it once I have a baikal in my hands

[DarrenJC]

So zpool was the winner...

Im a single Gpu miner (windows 10, nvidia) can i mine on zpool? What mining software would i need? Thanks in advance xx

[kopija]

So zpool was the winner...

Im a single Gpu miner (windows 10, nvidia) can i mine on zpool? What mining software would i need? Thanks in advance xx

Try sniffdogminer or nemosminer.

[guytechie]

Ever think about doing this test every month or so to make sure the results are consistent?

[pikachuy]

If there's some donations, then i don't mind, other then that, it was pretty time consuming conducting this test because I had to make sure all pools had equal amount of uptime.

[Tai_Pan]

If there's some donations, then i don't mind, other then that, it was pretty time consuming conducting this test because I had to make sure all pools had equal amount of uptime.

As a plus to what you said anyone can do this as a personal test.

[earlmo]

As a plus to what you said anyone can do this as a personal test.

Agreed.  So that's what I did.  I have two GTX960 cards of the same make, and after making sure that the core and memory clocks were the same, set one to work on Nicehash and the other on zpool.

My setup was using NemosMiner, and I had customized each pool to my liking (select algorithms, minimum mining duration) and leaving it to NemosMiner so neither of the pools got to pick the algorithms for me.  Your mileage will definitely vary.

I wasn't as scientific as pikachuy, and went by the total unpaid amount on both pools as opposed to waiting for an actual payout, and recorded the amount earned over four days.  That was enough to show zpool at 10% higher in terms of unpaid amount.  It would actually go back and forth between the two some days; NH earning more during the day and zpool more at night.  Anyway, I believe zpool pays you precisely the indicated amount (fees taken off the front end) whereas Nicehash takes it on the back end which would result in 4% less (I use an external wallet) of a payout from the value shown.  So net to me should be approx 14.5% higher with zpool.

Anyway, four days was enough for me and I moved the rest of my GPUs over to zpool.  Zpool also pays out at lower earnings (weekly at 1.5 mBTC, vs 10 mBTC for NH).  Plus, with zpool being in Canada and Nicehash in Slovenia(?), the pool's profits (including the mysterious 20%?) are a little closer to home.

Oh yeah, I elected to be paid out in BTC.  Getting paid in other coins on zpool involves an additional exchange or something and would most likely reduce earnings.  I think that's what was said in the many pages of the zpool thread.  Please fact check at your own discretion--I'm just some dude on the Internet.

.earl