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[ryzaadit]

Definitely, PnL has a big impact for sure.

Yeah still believe with PnL aspect.

Right now, I just playing on the casino are worth it a lot. Like Shuffle with their code, cause there is no reason on Stake since don't get a single promotion at all.

Just marketing emails.

[Bitinity]

Definitely, PnL has a big impact for sure.

Yeah still believe with PnL aspect.

I wanna believe it too but what is experienced by Mahdirakib tells us something opposite. How could -$700 but weekly bonus is $10 only although he wagered $3k only. Hard to calculate in his case. Lets say he was not -$700 and wager $3k, will he get $5 on the weekly bonus which means that -$700 added $5 bonus only? Or lets there is 10% lossback added, means that $7 is the added amount so if he is positive then he will get $3 only with his VIP level and $3k wager? I tried to make some scenarios for his case but still I cant find reasonable scenario for the $10 bonus with his actual -$700, VIP level and wager.

[Mahdirakib]

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I'm also clueless about why I received only $10 from the weekly bonus with a decent loss. My total losses weren't $700, but I had actually lost $657 in deposit on that week. The weekly stats show -$595 it includes a little profit which I made in the previous week. With this stats, I received $10 from the weekly bonus. I have wagered around $3k again this week and made a profit of $110. Now I will be able to compare the PnL impact on the weekly bonus after getting the next weekly bonus.

[panjul07]

^ As always guys, do not forget the word "mystery" anytime we are talking about bonuses in Stake.
Although there is written rules/terms about how they calculate the bonuses but we cant get the exact formula about it.
Some time we get bigger but some other time we get lower than our expectation.
@Mahdirakib, have you tried to contact support to ask them why did you get such a low bonus while you had negative PnL?
If it was like few tens of dollar negative, it is more reasonable that you got $10 bonus but your PnL was negative several hundreds of dollar.
 

[BitcoinHunt3r]

I have wagered around $3k again this week and made a profit of $110. Now I will be able to compare the PnL impact on the weekly bonus after getting the next weekly bonus.

Well this is a good idea so that we know some things that make us wonder with almost the same wager but different PnL
And also I hope before you claim the weekly bonus there will be a subscription bonus or something like that so the situation is the same as last week when you claimed monthly bonus then weekly bonus.

@Mahdirakib, have you tried to contact support to ask them why did you get such a low bonus while you had negative PnL? 

Even if he ask we can guess the formal answer from the support team ''our marketing team has used the right and fair formula'' this answer applies to all types of general bonuses except for special bonuses. I guess this is the reason why they don't post a fixed formula for the bonus, imagine if it was posted maybe more users would ask about their bonuses daily yeah from a total tens of thousands daily players.

[ryzaadit]

^ As always guys, do not forget the word "mystery" anytime

The mystery part always annoying 😂

These is why, I'm on Shuffle right now. To be honest because their code give me more amount bonus, while in Stake only hoping on Weekly Stream Code + Weekly.

But in Shuffle got 3 resource: Daily Code, Weekly, Stream Code Weekly. If Shuffle code are not worth it, I actually not playing there.

[Cointxz]

~snip~

I'm also clueless about why I received only $10 from the weekly bonus with a decent loss. My total losses weren't $700, but I had actually lost $657 in deposit on that week. The weekly stats show -$595 it includes a little profit which I made in the previous week. With this stats, I received $10 from the weekly bonus. I have wagered around $3k again this week and made a profit of $110. Now I will be able to compare the PnL impact on the weekly bonus after getting the next weekly bonus.

This becomes bonus assumption more confusing. I stop already speculating about how weekly and monthly bonus calculated since they always varies with huge margin despite my progress are just close to each other.

I’m starting to think that they also consider the amount of profit they get for that period then they will apply the bonus computation.


Monthly subscription bonus distribution is probably this week. I’m more excited to this bonus than my weekly bonus. 

[savetheFORUM]

As always guys, do not forget the word "mystery" anytime we are talking about bonuses in Stake.
Although there is written rules/terms about how they calculate the bonuses but we cant get the exact formula about it.
Some time we get bigger but some other time we get lower than our expectation.
@Mahdirakib, have you tried to contact support to ask them why did you get such a low bonus while you had negative PnL?
If it was like few tens of dollar negative, it is more reasonable that you got $10 bonus but your PnL was negative several hundreds of dollar.

There doesn't need to be an exact number or exact calculation or learn whatever the algo is that calculate it. But the volatility of it does sometimes annoy people.

For example, if I gamble on sports betting this month, one single bet, and put up 100 dollars, and lose it, I may get X amount of bonus, and yet, if I do it next month, same thing, exactly the way it was, 100 bucks, all lost, single bet, I could get something other than X instead. So that makes people confused, not because we need to know the calculation, but why there is a difference?

[AHOYBRAUSE]

There doesn't need to be an exact number or exact calculation or learn whatever the algo is that calculate it. But the volatility of it does sometimes annoy people.

For example, if I gamble on sports betting this month, one single bet, and put up 100 dollars, and lose it, I may get X amount of bonus, and yet, if I do it next month, same thing, exactly the way it was, 100 bucks, all lost, single bet, I could get something other than X instead. So that makes people confused, not because we need to know the calculation, but why there is a difference?

Well to be fair, if you "just" wager and lose 100$ your monthly or whatever other bonus will only be 0.01$ these days, unfortunately.
Anyway, nobody knows the calculations since depends on wager, profit/loss and house edge of games played, and maybe also if Eddie is in a good or bad mood. 
Would be easier to just give people the calculation but that would never happen because every time they cut the bonuses again, as they did countless times over the past years, people would know immediately.

[ryzaadit]

Monthly subscription bonus distribution is probably this week. I’m more excited to this bonus than my weekly bonus. 

No need excited.

If you not waggering a lots then just expect for some amount from base amount. Example for my rank either 5$/10$, you can expect more if waggering a lots.

But for just a small waggering, just hope for the base amount.

[Mahdirakib]

@Mahdirakib, have you tried to contact support to ask them why did you get such a low bonus while you had negative PnL?
If it was like few tens of dollar negative, it is more reasonable that you got $10 bonus but your PnL was negative several hundreds of dollar.

No, I haven't done this. The support would probably say that I received the exact bonus amount that I should have. And they don't have enough information about this since the marketing team takes care of the bonuses. I have received a higher amount from the last 2 monthly bonuses despite being in profit. So, I shouldn't complain about receiving a low weekly bonus now .

[Cointxz]

Monthly subscription bonus distribution is probably this week. I’m more excited to this bonus than my weekly bonus. 

No need excited.

If you not waggering a lots then just expect for some amount from base amount. Example for my rank either 5$/10$, you can expect more if waggering a lots.

But for just a small waggering, just hope for the base amount.

Yeah, I never expected something big on my weekly even though I increased my wager unless I will lose big too that’s why I rely more on exclusive bonus and additional monthly bonus that provide more rewards even with low wager.

I missed the old good days that fixed bonus per month is still high compared now.

Anyone here still participate on challenges?

[Mandoy]

@Mahdirakib, have you tried to contact support to ask them why did you get such a low bonus while you had negative PnL?
If it was like few tens of dollar negative, it is more reasonable that you got $10 bonus but your PnL was negative several hundreds of dollar.

No, I haven't done this. The support would probably say that I received the exact bonus amount that I should have. And they don't have enough information about this since the marketing team takes care of the bonuses. I have received a higher amount from the last 2 monthly bonuses despite being in profit. So, I shouldn't complain about receiving a low weekly bonus now .

Well, that's fair enough. Bonus calculations on Stake appear to be inconsistent to users since they are calculated based on not only on the most recent PnL but also on other factors. The total amount can vary based on a variety of factors. Such as the volume of wagers made, the level of VIP status, game activity, and internal promotional criteria. If you are getting bigger bonuses each month when you are profitable then it just seems like you shouldn't assess the system on one weekly pay. Rewards after a big loss of $10 can be disappointing, but if you consider rewards over time, you'll get a better idea of the value you are getting.

[panjul07]

@Mahdirakib, have you tried to contact support to ask them why did you get such a low bonus while you had negative PnL?
If it was like few tens of dollar negative, it is more reasonable that you got $10 bonus but your PnL was negative several hundreds of dollar.

No, I haven't done this. The support would probably say that I received the exact bonus amount that I should have. And they don't have enough information about this since the marketing team takes care of the bonuses. I have received a higher amount from the last 2 monthly bonuses despite being in profit. So, I shouldn't complain about receiving a low weekly bonus now .

So should we say that your last weekly bonus was lower due to the fact that you got higher monthly bonus than your expectation?
In other words, can we say that there is something wrong with their bonus system where they can give bigger or lower bonus amount then they correct it in the next bonus?
I think they should review their bonuses system instead of letting miscalculation then make a correction later which affect the later bonus.

[rdbase]

^ As always guys, do not forget the word "mystery" anytime

The mystery part always annoying 😂

These is why, I'm on Shuffle right now. To be honest because their code give me more amount bonus, while in Stake only hoping on Weekly Stream Code + Weekly.

But in Shuffle got 3 resource: Daily Code, Weekly, Stream Code Weekly. If Shuffle code are not worth it, I actually not playing there.

It use to be the other way around in the past with these two sites but I guess Stake bonuses are less and Shuffle has increased theirs.
Just leveled up and noticed they have all these codes you mentioned so it was worth the test between these two casinos to see which one offered the more in bonuses for the same amount wagered in the last week.

[ryzaadit]

It use to be the other way around in the past with these two sites but I guess Stake bonuses are less and Shuffle has increased theirs.
Just leveled up and noticed they have all these codes you mentioned so it was worth the test between these two casinos to see which one offered the more in bonuses for the same amount wagered in the last week.

The code on. SHUFFLE being share daily are not just a small amount code.

But also they have high roller code being share 50,000$ and 100,000$. I dont think Stake have a code for high roller, I still remember Stake have daily code 10-15 daily.

But claiming all of them make some issue, some user getting a ban due over claiming. While on Shuffle not.

[Haunebu]

Well to be fair, if you "just" wager and lose 100$ your monthly or whatever other bonus will only be 0.01$ these days, unfortunately.
Anyway, nobody knows the calculations since depends on wager, profit/loss and house edge of games played, and maybe also if Eddie is in a good or bad mood. 
Would be easier to just give people the calculation but that would never happen because every time they cut the bonuses again, as they did countless times over the past years, people would know immediately.

1 cent for 100 bucks wager? That's just dust and shouldn't be called bonus at all. I don't really play often at Stake these days, but I always wondered why the heck they keep reducing the bonus amounts despite their popularity rising rapidly with time.

I would understand if they were facing losses or something, but it's the total reverse here implying that they are simply greedy as hell.

[AHOYBRAUSE]

Well to be fair, if you "just" wager and lose 100$ your monthly or whatever other bonus will only be 0.01$ these days, unfortunately.
Anyway, nobody knows the calculations since depends on wager, profit/loss and house edge of games played, and maybe also if Eddie is in a good or bad mood. 
Would be easier to just give people the calculation but that would never happen because every time they cut the bonuses again, as they did countless times over the past years, people would know immediately.

1 cent for 100 bucks wager? That's just dust and shouldn't be called bonus at all. I don't really play often at Stake these days, but I always wondered why the heck they keep reducing the bonus amounts despite their popularity rising rapidly with time.

I would understand if they were facing losses or something, but it's the total reverse here implying that they are simply greedy as hell.

That's just how it is. Stake has raised the wager requirements a lot over the years. Now you need like at least 1k wager to have your account being seen as "active". Some years ago even when you wager 1k and have an ok VIP level you could get like 10-20$, those times are over.
To be fair though, at any other site a 100$ wager would give you below 10 cent weekly bonus as well since this is basically nothing these days.

[Mahdirakib]

So should we say that your last weekly bonus was lower due to the fact that you got higher monthly bonus than your expectation?
In other words, can we say that there is something wrong with their bonus system where they can give bigger or lower bonus amount then they correct it in the next bonus?

All I can say is that Stake bonus system is mysterious, you know it very well . Based on my past experience, Stake gives a low base amount (around  $10) on the weekly or monthly bonuses if the wagering activity doesn't go above $4k to $5k within the bonus period. I have no idea why Stake hasn't included lossback for me in the last weekly bonus. The weekly bonus rates and PnL impact aren't mentioned anywhere at Stake. So, it will be a never ending discussion without any solution.

[Bitinity]

~snip~

I'm also clueless about why I received only $10 from the weekly bonus with a decent loss. My total losses weren't $700, but I had actually lost $657 in deposit on that week. The weekly stats show -$595 it includes a little profit which I made in the previous week. With this stats, I received $10 from the weekly bonus. I have wagered around $3k again this week and made a profit of $110. Now I will be able to compare the PnL impact on the weekly bonus after getting the next weekly bonus.

Dont forget to share what you get in the next weekly bonus along with your exact statistic before the weekly bonus is released so we can make a comparison with your previous weekly bonus and we may have better point of view about the weekly bonus. I will be surprised if you will get bigger bonus in the next weekly bonus lol and if it will come true, we will be more clueless about how they calculate the bonus.