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May 17, 2013, 05:24:49 AM
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I didn't suggest Ripple is a scam... Ripple is what it is; a centralized, closed source service. Personally I'm reserving judgement on its usefulness.

I said that Tradefortress seems to have exploited a hole in it, and that he is far from a scammer.


PS. You should be out of the newbie section once you have been logged in for more than four hours. If you've already done this and you are still restricted, I'd send a PM to a moderator.


I agree - you didn't, but you did call us sockpuppets.  And I want to make the point that it is reasonable for people who are being called scammers carte blanche to be able to justify their position, and that it isn't just OpenCoin sockpuppets coming out of the woodwork or something that's happening here.

There is no "Hole" that he is exploiting -- he exploiting *people* (if he's exploiting people at all).  Now granted, they will only be exploited to the extent that they trust him, but that is only going to happen because he's a Hero member, and that's the issue.

I will try staying logged in for 4 consecutive hours and do that if that doesn't work, thanks.
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May 17, 2013, 06:18:21 AM
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I didn't suggest Ripple is a scam... Ripple is what it is; a centralized, closed source service. Personally I'm reserving judgement on its usefulness.

I said that Tradefortress seems to have exploited a hole in it, and that he is far from a scammer.


PS. You should be out of the newbie section once you have been logged in for more than four hours. If you've already done this and you are still restricted, I'd send a PM to a moderator.


I agree - you didn't, but you did call us sockpuppets.  And I want to make the point that it is reasonable for people who are being called scammers carte blanche to be able to justify their position, and that it isn't just OpenCoin sockpuppets coming out of the woodwork or something that's happening here.

There is no "Hole" that he is exploiting -- he exploiting *people* (if he's exploiting people at all).  Now granted, they will only be exploited to the extent that they trust him, but that is only going to happen because he's a Hero member, and that's the issue.

I will try staying logged in for 4 consecutive hours and do that if that doesn't work, thanks.


Shouldn't have to be consecutive, there is a "Total time logged in" counter towards the top of the page, next to your avatar and directly under the "Watchlist" link. Once that hits four hours, and you have five or more posts, your restrictions should be lifted automatically.

Agree to disagree about Ripple/Tradefortress.

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May 17, 2013, 06:40:49 AM
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Agree to disagree about Ripple/Tradefortress.

It is not rational to Agree to Disagree.  But let's make sure we're on the same page -- I don't think TF is a scammer per se, but posting in a thread and then removing all discussion that doesn't go along his point of view is very sketchy.
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May 17, 2013, 06:55:56 AM
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Agree to disagree about Ripple/Tradefortress.

It is not rational to Agree to Disagree.  But let's make sure we're on the same page -- I don't think TF is a scammer per se, but posting in a thread and then removing all discussion that doesn't go along his point of view is very sketchy.

Why isn't it rational? I know what I think about the situation, and I don't feel like arguing with those who are thinking about it differently.

Tradefortress is one of the more trustworthy people I know on this forum, and it is clear that his thread was done to exploit perceived failures in Ripple, not to scam anyone, and certainly not for personal gain.

I don't know about the posts he edited/deleted, certainly that could be sketchy, depending on the content of the posts.
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May 17, 2013, 07:12:35 AM
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Why isn't it rational? I know what I think about the situation, and I don't feel like arguing with those who are thinking about it differently.

I do understand -- arguing on the internet is a pain, and it's probable that you're arguing against a cad who doesn't know any better than you half the time who thinks he does.  It's exhausting and it's not always fruitful -- but nevertheless, rational people cannot agree to disagree.  Either one of us is irrational, we're talking past eachother(I suspect this is happening) or one of us is wrong and we need to both consider that possibility(really all 3).

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Tradefortress is one of the more trustworthy people I know on this forum, and it is clear that his thread was done to exploit perceived failures in Ripple, not to scam anyone, and certainly not for personal gain.

Know what's funny?  I actually had encountered him earlier on the ripple network and had allocated him some trust there -- so he was likely trusted in the Ripple community by others too.  He (or any of these 30 people) could have made use of that ~0.002BTC because he seemed, at the time, pretty legit.  Now I am definitely wondering, and he can contact me if he wants to maintain that credit.

In the meanwhile I think I can post in other areas, thanks.
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June 29, 2013, 07:45:16 PM
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please check out how TF scammed me and vote on him being a scammer: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=151880.0;all

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June 29, 2013, 08:28:37 PM
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Sorry but no scam Sad
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