UTRUST

[Sozialtourist]

well, 20 million dollars is a damn good start for this project :9

maybe we see some last minute contributors like big whales later, huh?

It could be likely that big contributors will come in last hours of the ICO furthering the development of this platform.

When is the last day of the ICO already ?

not sure end date but may be until each max cap 45 mil in USD.

Today will be the final day for UTRUST ico. They only planning to run their ICO in a week, not sure they can raised 45mil

Isn't tomorrow, the last day ICO? It began on November 2 + 7 days, it should end only on November 9?

right, ICO will be finished tomorrow at 9 Nov. Fund has raised 429M utrust. Well seems current fund collected like so far from taget of ICO.
But this really was amazing, starti by  Private sale. Utrust will be listed at HitBTC. Added so fast to market are one prove, this are good potential of cryptocurreny.

2nd, 3rd, 4th, 5th, 6th, 7th, 8th.
7 days.
one week.
9th aswell would be a week and a day.

They might go for a couple of hours on the 9th depending on when the ICO started on the 2nd. That I don't know.

Stop this rumor that the ICO will end on the 8th!!!
It says 7 days! First day (or first 24 hours) was from 2nd November 2Pm to 3rd November 2pm, the Second day was from 3rd November to 4th November and so on.
I will leave the rest up to you, it's pretty simple!

And if you still don't believe me, go to their telegram channel. It's confirmed multiple times that the ICO will end on the 9th of November after 7 days!!

[magisterr]

Yes, really. ICo started at November 2-nd on 2pm, so it will end in November 9, 2pm.

[Cucumbaba]

Why many people so in hurry want to end the ico, there is a schedule from dev, just wait there official announcement when the ico will end, just relax bro

[hotimbineh]

tomorrow is from ICO and we all know the result of persale from sale and HITBTC where we will mine and burn UTRUST tokens and in other exchanges maybe ......

[keukeu]

well, 20 million dollars is a damn good start for this project :9

maybe we see some last minute contributors like big whales later, huh?

It could be likely that big contributors will come in last hours of the ICO furthering the development of this platform.

When is the last day of the ICO already ?

not sure end date but may be until each max cap 45 mil in USD.

Today will be the final day for UTRUST ico. They only planning to run their ICO in a week, not sure they can raised 45mil

Isn't tomorrow, the last day ICO? It began on November 2 + 7 days, it should end only on November 9?

right, ICO will be finished tomorrow at 9 Nov. Fund has raised 429M utrust. Well seems current fund collected like so far from taget of ICO.
But this really was amazing, starti by  Private sale. Utrust will be listed at HitBTC. Added so fast to market are one prove, this are good potential of cryptocurreny.

2nd, 3rd, 4th, 5th, 6th, 7th, 8th.
7 days.
one week.
9th aswell would be a week and a day.

They might go for a couple of hours on the 9th depending on when the ICO started on the 2nd. That I don't know.

Stop this rumor that the ICO will end on the 8th!!!
It says 7 days! First day (or first 24 hours) was from 2nd November 2Pm to 3rd November 2pm, the Second day was from 3rd November to 4th November and so on.
I will leave the rest up to you, it's pretty simple!

And if you still don't believe me, go to their telegram channel. It's confirmed multiple times that the ICO will end on the 9th of November after 7 days!!

That's what I said. It'll go on for A COUPLE OF HOURS on the 9th.

Just don't make ppl believe that they can go shopping for tokens all of 9th, as all of you are now, cause then they'll miss the boat at ICO-price.

[webwakko]

What's all the fuzz about the end date for the ICO?
What if it extends afterwards.. no harm done anyhow?
Let the DEV team take time to make sure they get enough fundings, and have some patience.. it is still a virtue you know
Rushing into things never lead to positive results

[levyashin]

Why many people so in hurry want to end the ico, there is a schedule from dev, just wait there official announcement when the ico will end, just relax bro

I don't understand the fuss really. I already made my contribution and doesn't matter it will finish today or 9th or 1 week later.

[cantdecide]

What's all the fuzz about the end date for the ICO?
What if it extends afterwards.. no harm done anyhow?
Let the DEV team take time to make sure they get enough fundings, and have some patience.. it is still a virtue you know
Rushing into things never lead to positive results

Why should they extend the ICO? They got more then enough, they reached their soft cap in less then 24 hours and sold around 43%, which is not less. So I don't see a point to extend here.

[crazylikeafox]

Why many people so in hurry want to end the ico, there is a schedule from dev, just wait there official announcement when the ico will end, just relax bro

I don't understand the fuss really. I already made my contribution and doesn't matter it will finish today or 9th or 1 week later.

They are in the hurry to dump their bounty or bonuses and get a quick little profit.

Better wait till it hit exchanges cos surely it will go below ico price

[martinholly167]

After the start of trading on exchanges the participants presale bought tokens at 0.03$ will sell them at 0.033$. Demand your money back until you've lost it.

Thats a nice return on investment for the presale investors.. What would be a minimum I need to invest to get that rate?

That was the price on pre-sale, the minimum contribution was 0.2 ETH.

ICO looks good, you have details of the PRE ICO? You have also a running alpha version? THX

The pre-ico has ended about 2 months ago sir.

[Fintechbit]

My new company account. I am happy to make my first post here IN this thread which happens to be my favorite current ICO. UTRUST......UROCK!  Looking forward to that "pay with UTRUST" button replacing all the PayPal buttons. Bring it.

[analyzing]

What's all the fuzz about the end date for the ICO?
What if it extends afterwards.. no harm done anyhow?
Let the DEV team take time to make sure they get enough fundings, and have some patience.. it is still a virtue you know
Rushing into things never lead to positive results

Why should they extend the ICO? They got more then enough, they reached their soft cap in less then 24 hours and sold around 43%, which is not less. So I don't see a point to extend here.

when ever i am seeing some extension in ICO that is alarming me strongly , because i had a experience with one ICO and they completely abandon their project now ... so this ICO is not for me

[mike0182]

My new company account. I am happy to make my first post here IN this thread which happens to be my favorite current ICO. UTRUST......UROCK!  Looking forward to that "pay with UTRUST" button replacing all the PayPal buttons. Bring it.

Welcome to our community! Let good luck accompany you!

[ekin4]

Why many people so in hurry want to end the ico, there is a schedule from dev, just wait there official announcement when the ico will end, just relax bro

I don't understand the fuss really. I already made my contribution and doesn't matter it will finish today or 9th or 1 week later.

They are in the hurry to dump their bounty or bonuses and get a quick little profit.

Better wait till it hit exchanges cos surely it will go below ico price

Utrust have pre-agreement for exchanges, we'll see token price below ICO price due to greedy and impatient bounty hunters. I would buy this token from exchanges if I had plans to invest.

[lw75]

Yes, I’ve read it and I’ve also read the full chat between Nuno and him. Personally, it reads like it is written with a negative agenda as he specifically chose not to disclose a lot of information that Nuno provided him (school, university degree, companies he founded, skype, facebook, …). Instead, he chose to write an article that feels like an attack under the false pretenses.

Good that we're at least seeing a reply. The review looks to me as reasonably fair and balanced so when you say the writer did not disclose a lot of information this is the opportunity to share these details. I happen to have a very strong opinion on that companies should be proactive in transparency. Now you're leaving me and some others guessing which is never a good thing. Far from dreadful but UTRUST can really step up the communication game.

You do realise that our company has 15 engineers, not two, and if two of them signed up for something it doesn't mean this is the company profile we're using. Plus, even if we were using GitHub, the repositories would be private and not open to the public. You don't go to GitHub to lookup the source code of Windows either!

My apology, but you said that this Github profile was not yours. If one or even two employees of your company create a profile with your company's name, then it stands to reason to assume that this is your profile. Curious to see the new list of your engineers... seems you have expanded, because on your team page I only count 8 engineers.

• Simple: You need a permanent resident living in Switzerland to open the company type we chose. Just because there is only one director now, doesn't mean there is only ever going to be one. Our legal, financial arms and place of incorporation are in Switzerland (UTRUST Switzerland AG). Our operational branch (Engineering/UX/...) is in Portugal. More directors will be added in due time.

That doesn't make any sense (I live in Switzerland and I know a bit about how to form a company). Yes, you may choose one trustee or person who is a Swiss resident (yes, even one with a questonable background), but that doesn't explain why nobody of the actual team has been named a director. Why only in "due time"? There is no process involved in adding a director when the company is formed.

• First of all, they are not a dept-collecting company. They're a group that offer a variety of services, including debt collecting in some countries and compliance that we are contracting. There are very few KYC companies in the world that are FINMA approved, they are one of them.

Yes, of course they are a debt-collecting company. You can pretty-talk them as much as you want, but anyone in Switzerland knows (either from first-hand experience or from the frequent news coverage) who Intrum Justita is. They may have recently added KYC service, because they licensed IDnow eSign, but they are certainly not the only one offering that service - and it's not Instrum Justita who is FINMA approved, as you say, but it is the IDnow eSign service (https://www.idnow.de/) if at all.

• We are allowed to change the terms within certain boundaries at any given time, just like every other company in the world. Particularly when it comes to changing regulation, which in our case required us to enforce KYC on all participants, including pre-ICO ones. Naturally, this is not something we want to do as it costs money and is a hurdle/hassle for everybody. However, since we are a fully compliant ICO, we comply to the current law and regulations, and will continue to do so.

Again, what you are saying is untrue. You say yourself, within certain boundaries, but nothing about your changes is within boundaries. These are two completely different terms. In this case, just like every other company, as you say, you would have had to at least offer any pre-ICO token owner the option to return the tokens. For example, you say now that I must not be a politically exposed person (PEP). But what if I am? I cannot agree to your new terms then or I would have to lie. But I do have tokens from the pre-ICO, where you made no such conditions. And I most certainly don't want my personal information to be shared with Instrum Justita - under no circumstance. The terms are so fundamentally different that it makes my head ache and I seriously question whether you're as transparent and professional as you like us to believe. Don't believe me? Compare them yourself:

• Before https://s3-eu-west-1.amazonaws.com/utrust/UTRUST-terms-of-use.pdf
• Now https://s3-eu-west-1.amazonaws.com/utrust/toc-participants/en/UTRUST-toc-participants-en-2017-11-02.pdf (interesting how you call the new terms V.01 - what version was the previous terms then? V.00?)

Also goes for this particular post. Why do you choose to not reply to investigative questioning?

[clixcoin]

My new company account. I am happy to make my first post here IN this thread which happens to be my favorite current ICO. UTRUST......UROCK!  Looking forward to that "pay with UTRUST" button replacing all the PayPal buttons. Bring it.

Good luck for your wishes about this project I also think cryptocurrencies will get succeed to catch attention of mainstream people to start using this nice services which has a lot of advantages as compare with Paypal.

[lw75]

It can be a stock picture or something like that.

That's not a stock picture, it's a Amazon product and it even has the Amazon name on it. They associate themselves with Amazon. That means they already have a deal with them (and their agreement to display it), or they're doing it anyhow but without Amazon's permission...

It's a vision of the future

I pay attention to such detail as well and depending on the time of day can be a light orange flag. Assuming there is no contract surely UTRUST will recognize the unthoughtfulness.

[zhongzy]

Yes, really. ICo started at November 2-nd on 2pm, so it will end in November 9, 2pm.

that's right,not as normal project use one month to collect fund ,UTRUST use two month ,that's really a long time.

[viljy]

Well it seems the token sold didnt move much from the last time i checked, but still they sold almost half of them. Its quite a good result!

It moved, not much but I think around 1million more tokens or something like that, so not too less. It would be cool if they would hit 500 million so that they have sold exactly 50%.

One day left until the end of sales. I think they will not reach 50%. Rather, sales will be somewhere around 45%.

[Sozialtourist]

Yes, really. ICo started at November 2-nd on 2pm, so it will end in November 9, 2pm.

that's right,not as normal project use one month to collect fund ,UTRUST use two month ,that's really a long time.

What are you talking about?! UTrust isn't using two months. The ICO is scheduled for 7 days and the pre-sale in August sold out in 90 mins.