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August 13, 2017, 04:09:36 AM
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Im skeptical, but they probably are real. I wish hearn had published them prior to his exit from bitcoin and the development team as a whole.

Mike did show up in the reddit thread created by OP and vouched for the validity of them.

https://www.reddit.com/r/btc/comments/6t2ci2/never_before_seen_mike_hearn_satoshi_nakamoto/dliizv6/
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August 13, 2017, 05:40:34 AM
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I like how professional Satoshi always is. Never a slip up.

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always interesting to read, thanks

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August 13, 2017, 06:47:18 AM
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thanks for sharing! very informative info and shows how far ahead Satoshi thought!
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August 13, 2017, 07:51:50 AM
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Its so nice reading such article nowadays...
It makes you realize the development of btc...
I salute and thank you guys for giving us btc...

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August 13, 2017, 08:01:03 AM
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thanks for sharing!!
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August 13, 2017, 08:03:32 AM
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Btw anyone can tell satoshi was native english speaker?

This could be something interesting to know. From what I saw I don't think it was an English mother tongue... Anyway we have to wait for someone more expert than us.

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August 13, 2017, 08:17:10 AM
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I'm in the process of developing a website dedicated to early bitcoin history.  Mike Hearn was gracious enough to contribute to the project by sharing his e-mail conversations with Satoshi.  Since these are never-before-seen writings of Satoshi, I thought others would enjoy having access to them now, rather than waiting for the website to go live.

Here they are:
https://pastebin.com/Na5FwkQ4
https://pastebin.com/cKZPC1rF
https://pastebin.com/wA9Jn100
https://pastebin.com/JF3USKFT
https://pastebin.com/syrmi3ET

If anyone else has anything they would like to share from early bitcoin times (2009-2010), please e-mail me at CipherionX@protonmail.com

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Post your website after you set it up I'm sure it will be interesting to those late comers like me who just entered the bitcoin scene in 2013 and by the way thanks for posting this, I'm sure supporters will see the works of satoshi progressing

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August 13, 2017, 08:32:52 AM
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Thank you so much for taking the effort and time to compile all these emails. It is just great looking back how all this bitcoin technology was invented by the visionary Satoshi Nakamoto. This is a history that everybody will relish looking back.



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August 13, 2017, 05:48:47 PM
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This ....

"Bitcoin can already scale much larger than (Visa) with existing hardware for a fraction of the cost.  It never really hits a scale ceiling." ~ Satoshi

Yeah, that is interesting. My guess would be that he's saying a single node could operate at that scale for less than the total operations of Visa. That could be true.

As for the "scale ceiling", I think he's arguing that there isn't a quadratic (or higher) growth in cost. Which I think is also probably true in general. I haven't seen a convincing argument against it at least. I'm aware of the quadratic cost in signatures, but that's as the size of a transaction grows rather than as the number of transactions go.

Really a very different perspective than certain key developers today who emphatically claim that 8MB is scary and dangerous.

Here Satoshi breaks it all down during a discussion of client-only mode. https://pastebin.com/wA9Jn100

It seems he liked to keep things simple, rather than the current trend of increasing complexity.  Wink

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August 13, 2017, 05:50:51 PM
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If these are legit, it would be a confirmation that Satoshi mined the block #5326, as block reward from that block is sent by Satoshi to Mike Hearn.

Mike: I sent you 32.51 coins, my bitcoin address is 1JuEjh9znXwqsy5RrnKqgzqY4Ldg7rnj5n

Satoshi: I sent back 32.51 and 50.00. (https://blockchain.info/address/1JuEjh9znXwqsy5RrnKqgzqY4Ldg7rnj5n)

This is interesting, because if you go back to the old ExtraNonce analysis by Sergio (https://bitslog.wordpress.com/2013/04/17/the-well-deserved-fortune-of-satoshi-nakamoto/), block #5326 fits the pattern of this early miner with a distinct ExtraNonce pattern, and would be the first (?) direct evidence, that this miner was in fact Satoshi.

Parts of these emails are indeed not legit, but what you go on to say might well be worthy of further investigation. Thank you.

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August 13, 2017, 07:11:39 PM
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If these are legit, it would be a confirmation that Satoshi mined the block #5326, as block reward from that block is sent by Satoshi to Mike Hearn.

Mike: I sent you 32.51 coins, my bitcoin address is 1JuEjh9znXwqsy5RrnKqgzqY4Ldg7rnj5n

Satoshi: I sent back 32.51 and 50.00. (https://blockchain.info/address/1JuEjh9znXwqsy5RrnKqgzqY4Ldg7rnj5n)

This is interesting, because if you go back to the old ExtraNonce analysis by Sergio (https://bitslog.wordpress.com/2013/04/17/the-well-deserved-fortune-of-satoshi-nakamoto/), block #5326 fits the pattern of this early miner with a distinct ExtraNonce pattern, and would be the first (?) direct evidence, that this miner was in fact Satoshi.

Parts of these emails are indeed not legit, but what you go on to say might well be worthy of further investigation. Thank you.

Prove before you smear your shit.

Some of the reasons are in here: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=178336.msg20814535#msg20814535
As they are mostly based on linguistics, it may be hard for you to follow.

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Extremely interesting stuff and very much appreciated. The Ripple connection is kind of incredible. I have heard of this before but it's really something to see it in old emails.






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Ripple?

funny how mike hearn and satoshi are time travellers talking about XRP in 2009 when it wasnt even a thing until 2012

I actually did some research and Ripple started in 2004.  The first iteration was RipplePay in 2005. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ripple_(payment_protocol)#Early_development_.282004.E2.80.9312.29
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The emails are from 2009? why you say they are new? And were they signed with his bitcoin address as well?

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August 13, 2017, 08:30:34 PM
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The emails are from 2009? why you say they are new? And were they signed with his bitcoin address as well?

I don't think the OP is credible enough with this information about satoshis emails so I think we should all discard it and treat it with the contempt it deserves. A lot of people tend to seek fame one way or the other trying to associate with satoshi and I think we must discourage them to stop .



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August 13, 2017, 08:56:31 PM
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If these are legit, it would be a confirmation that Satoshi mined the block #5326, as block reward from that block is sent by Satoshi to Mike Hearn.

Mike: I sent you 32.51 coins, my bitcoin address is 1JuEjh9znXwqsy5RrnKqgzqY4Ldg7rnj5n

Satoshi: I sent back 32.51 and 50.00. (https://blockchain.info/address/1JuEjh9znXwqsy5RrnKqgzqY4Ldg7rnj5n)

This is interesting, because if you go back to the old ExtraNonce analysis by Sergio (https://bitslog.wordpress.com/2013/04/17/the-well-deserved-fortune-of-satoshi-nakamoto/), block #5326 fits the pattern of this early miner with a distinct ExtraNonce pattern, and would be the first (?) direct evidence, that this miner was in fact Satoshi.

Parts of these emails are indeed not legit, but what you go on to say might well be worthy of further investigation. Thank you.

Prove before you smear your shit.

Some of the reasons are in here: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=178336.msg20814535#msg20814535
As they are mostly based on linguistics, it may be hard for you to follow.

Sure, thats what I knew already. Proof that you are a troll. No other logic needed.

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I'm in the process of developing a website dedicated to early bitcoin history.  Mike Hearn was gracious enough to contribute to the project by sharing his e-mail conversations with Satoshi.  Since these are never-before-seen writings of Satoshi, I thought others would enjoy having access to them now, rather than waiting for the website to go live.

Here they are:
https://pastebin.com/Na5FwkQ4
https://pastebin.com/cKZPC1rF
https://pastebin.com/wA9Jn100
https://pastebin.com/JF3USKFT
https://pastebin.com/syrmi3ET

If anyone else has anything they would like to share from early bitcoin times (2009-2010), please e-mail me at CipherionX@protonmail.com

Thanks!
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I like how Mike Hearn was eager to learn all the aspects of bitcoin in its infancy. He was genuinely curious when he sent those emails as far as I can see. Also, Satoshi answered and explained it in detail which makes me think that Satoshi really is a person of high intellect capable of explaining difficult technicalities in simpler terms.

I believe there are also some snippets of conversation here in this forum that Hal Finney posted. I'd try to take a look of it since Hal is one of the genesis miners which Satoshi came in contact with.
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I'm in the process of developing a website dedicated to early bitcoin history.  Mike Hearn was gracious enough to contribute to the project by sharing his e-mail conversations with Satoshi.  Since these are never-before-seen writings of Satoshi, I thought others would enjoy having access to them now, rather than waiting for the website to go live.

Here they are:
https://pastebin.com/Na5FwkQ4
https://pastebin.com/cKZPC1rF
https://pastebin.com/wA9Jn100
https://pastebin.com/JF3USKFT
https://pastebin.com/syrmi3ET

If anyone else has anything they would like to share from early bitcoin times (2009-2010), please e-mail me at CipherionX@protonmail.com

Thanks!
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