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May 20, 2013, 05:40:36 AM
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If you want a pic too..




He looks like "my" Satoshi Nakamoto

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All "Satoshis" look the same to me.
This one looks like the Asian version of Bruce Campbell.

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May 21, 2013, 02:34:13 AM
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Shinichi Mochizuki is a very unlikely candidate in my honest opinion. Here's my theory...

Yossi Nagy Moti - sound familiar to anyone ?

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May 21, 2013, 05:31:03 AM
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Ok people, just ignore the guy who actually met the person you're speculating about. I'm out. This thread's a blackhole 

I am guessing the real Satoshi has met other people in real life. I am guessing the vast majority of those people do not know he is Satoshi.

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May 21, 2013, 05:36:04 AM
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As probably the only forum member to have actually met Shinichi Mochizuki, I can assure you that he isn't Satoshi. Shinichi is a genius without bounds as evident by his work on the ABC conjecture; however, he seems far more interested in Teichmüller theory than monetary policy. Number theorists don't instantly make good cryptographers. Now if someone asserted Satoshi is Wenbo Mao or Dan Boneh, I'd be far more inclined to believe them.

Didn't see this before. Thanks for the info, good enough for me.

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May 21, 2013, 06:07:50 AM
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I am guessing the real Satoshi has met other people in real life. I am guessing the vast majority of those people do not know he is Satoshi.

Perhaps this would be then:

http://www.kurims.kyoto-u.ac.jp/~motizuki/Inter-universal%20Teichmuller%20Theory%20I.pdf

His writing style is dense. It's like an onion of brilliance that Satoshi simply doesn't have.

http://arxiv.org/pdf/math/0303109v1.pdf

A paper from Perlman

http://arxiv.org/pdf/math/0404188v6.pdf

Green and Tao's paper.

You'll notice they are all deep and indicate minds lost on the edge of a mathematical ocean. Satoshi's paper was nothing like these. You can't turn off a writing style nor can you turn off a mind orders of magnitude beyond that of satoshi's. If it was Shinichi, then he would have most likely shared bitcoin first with Dr. Appel http://www.cs.princeton.edu/~appel/ or his friend Susumu Nishimura http://www.math.kyoto-u.ac.jp/~susumu/. The fact that Satoshi reached out to both Adam Back and Hal tells me he was young and without professional contacts he could trust. When you get older in academia you develop friends.

Section 7 of Satoshi's paper really confirms this for me:

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Once the latest transaction in a coin is buried under enough blocks, the spent transactions before
it can be discarded to save disk space. To facilitate this without breaking the block's hash,
transactions are hashed in a Merkle Tree [7][2][5], with only the root included in the block's hash.
Old blocks can then be compacted by stubbing off branches of the tree. The interior hashes do
not need to be stored.

A block header with no transactions would be about 80 bytes. If we suppose blocks are
generated every 10 minutes, 80 bytes * 6 * 24 * 365 = 4.2MB per year. With computer systems
typically selling with 2GB of RAM as of 2008, and Moore's Law predicting current growth of
1.2GB per year, storage should not be a problem even if the block headers must be kept in
memory.

This scheme is raw and would be something someone like Shinichi would be greatly bothered with. It begs a significant mathematical analysis that a computer scientist would be hesitant to perform. A mathematician like Shinichi would love to explain in detail growth. You should see the 500 pages he wrote on the ABC conjecture. Satoshi's paper is the work of a graduate student. It's a white paper to explain an experiment.

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May 21, 2013, 06:45:43 AM
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I was only turning a poor argument on its head, not trying to advocate that this guy is Satoshi--which I think is a pretty silly notion for plenty of reasons without your anecdote. "OMG REALLY SMRT GUI MUST B SATOSHI!" Simply having been in the presence of Shinichi does not make you an authority on him. Just saying. Your newer post is much more relevant.

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May 21, 2013, 07:32:04 AM
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Satoshi's paper is actually pretty raw. As someone else said, it reads like a white paper.

That's not to say it isn't very impressive, but it's not written in a way that experienced academics would write, not at all.
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October 07, 2013, 11:31:39 PM
Last edit: October 08, 2013, 12:00:28 AM by ZetaOS
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This guy is Satoshi, the pictures above are wrong.




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October 07, 2013, 11:37:37 PM
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I don't think this topic is settled.

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October 08, 2013, 12:58:24 AM
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It's my believe Satoshi is an agent sent by a super AI, a friendly one Cheesy
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October 08, 2013, 06:31:32 AM
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October 08, 2013, 07:48:53 AM
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We can never be 100% sure, but this is a pretty nice breakthrough!

Id love more information as it comes Smiley
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October 08, 2013, 08:14:41 AM
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Can we have a Who is Satoshi subforum?

I haven't been interested for 18months but in the past few weeks have become interested again.
The beauty of the way Satoshi assembled Bitcoin from currently technology really makes me want to know about him more.
Satoshi's forsight when he created Bitcoin was brilliant.

I do wish he would have left us an answer for the mining centralisation problem however, particularly the risk of a difficult mining withdrawal attack (ie miners ramp up the difficulty then withdraw labour, crippling the network).

Perhaps if he could come back from the future he could share his ideas???

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October 08, 2013, 09:05:32 AM
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If he was still around he'd probably point out that miners have no incentive to perform such an attack. To use the language from his paper, they would "undermine the validity of their own wealth".

The ability to engage in short-selling changes a lot of his basic assumptions which is why I think it's stupid to allow it. I believe some exchange does provide for it these days - I don't recall which one it is, otherwise I'd ask them to stop.
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October 08, 2013, 09:17:22 AM
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I know who it is!! Its Light Yagami!!! Think about it, hes elusive, clever, and everybody is looking for him!  Grin

(This one is only for Anime fans, sorry if I mislead anybody  Grin)
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October 08, 2013, 09:39:35 AM
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this is silly. God created Satoshi so God created BTC.

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October 08, 2013, 01:15:11 PM
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In 99% of public schools(no, not like in the US) worldwide BE is the norm.
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October 08, 2013, 01:29:50 PM
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Ok people, just ignore the guy who actually met the person you're speculating about. I'm out. This thread's a blackhole 

Name dropper.

No one cares.  It's not Satoshi... I am the Satoshi.
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October 09, 2013, 01:08:20 PM
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Ok people, just ignore the guy who actually met the person you're speculating about. I'm out. This thread's a blackhole 

Name dropper.

No one cares.  It's not Satoshi... I am the Satoshi.
This is Satoshi

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October 09, 2013, 01:12:59 PM
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Ok people, just ignore the guy who actually met the person you're speculating about. I'm out. This thread's a blackhole 

Name dropper.

No one cares.  It's not Satoshi... I am the Satoshi.
This is Satoshi

Yes.  And that's me with her.  Where did you get this photo?

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