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September 01, 2017, 09:39:42 AM
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The first decentralized email system?thats pretty cool,im looking forward for this.Can someone share me the website link of this ?

Thank You!

Same here - any MVP already available?

MVP not available yet.
We are working to present the UI before ICO but it's not a firm promise.
It will be truly innovative.

You will see a roadmap on our website soon.
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September 01, 2017, 10:30:03 AM
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Ok, thanks for replying - looking forward to it!
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September 01, 2017, 10:41:17 AM
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there are many ICO projects, but few good projects.
 the project seems to be of high quality,
 decentralization of mail service system,
and Shared cloud service projects,
which should be worth investing.
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September 01, 2017, 10:55:59 AM
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The Greek translation is complete and posted here https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2140480.msg21407123#msg21407123`
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September 01, 2017, 11:27:21 AM
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there are many ICO projects, but few good projects.
 the project seems to be of high quality,
 decentralization of mail service system,
and Shared cloud service projects,
which should be worth investing.

Hello.

Also a lot of projects try to do the same or similar things

https://cointelegraph.com/news/substratum-ico-promises-to-build-free-and-fair-internet

Could maybe the developer collaborate to achieve this goals together
instead making each their own platform / product?!

Also I have seen before that this crypto decentralization mania exploded
that already where existing systems to achieve this but question is why this projects did not take up
and are still used by small number of people.

Check here:
https://prism-break.org/en/all/

Social Networks
File sharing
Instant Messaging
Networking
Web Search
etc...

All exists for free and I'm wondering why new similar systems
are needed and we require to pay for them?!

Don't get me wrong I support  the idea of a decentralized email platform or any other platform that gives control
to users but I' wondering why things are done in this way of making separate platforms(products)
instead contributing or collaborating  to improve existing systems and to make them main stream.


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September 01, 2017, 01:32:20 PM
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As I know, sometimes ago the project was stopped. And now the team continues to work in this direction. So, what have you changed on this time?
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September 01, 2017, 01:50:31 PM
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So I sent some Eth, completed the form, and have heard nothing. Found the referral link, but when will I get a confirmation of coins? And where will they be?
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September 01, 2017, 04:08:33 PM
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So I sent some Eth, completed the form, and have heard nothing. Found the referral link, but when will I get a confirmation of coins? And where will they be?

thank you for your contribution.
We try to reply to every contributor as fast as possible.
As we mentioned before after presale we'll contact every contributor with his exact number of tokens considering bonuses.
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September 02, 2017, 09:48:16 AM
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Is Proemtheus the same as this Proemtheus https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2054923.0?
Otherwise why the name can be the same?
Or if yes why did you create a new thread not forward the old one anyway?

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September 03, 2017, 10:54:31 PM
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good luck
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September 04, 2017, 01:54:47 PM
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there are many ICO projects, but few good projects.
 the project seems to be of high quality,
 decentralization of mail service system,
and Shared cloud service projects,
which should be worth investing.

Hello.

Also a lot of projects try to do the same or similar things

https://cointelegraph.com/news/substratum-ico-promises-to-build-free-and-fair-internet

Could maybe the developer collaborate to achieve this goals together
instead making each their own platform / product?!

Also I have seen before that this crypto decentralization mania exploded
that already where existing systems to achieve this but question is why this projects did not take up
and are still used by small number of people.

Check here:
https://prism-break.org/en/all/

Social Networks
File sharing
Instant Messaging
Networking
Web Search
etc...

All exists for free and I'm wondering why new similar systems
are needed and we require to pay for them?!

Don't get me wrong I support  the idea of a decentralized email platform or any other platform that gives control
to users but I' wondering why things are done in this way of making separate platforms(products)
instead contributing or collaborating  to improve existing systems and to make them main stream.

From what I have looked around Proemtheus is the first team to propose an independent email.
For our team to have an independent email means:
- decentralized accounts
- keep all user data private
It also means that even if Proemtheus will cease to exist you can use our software to have an active email account.

Proemtheus will not be a platform in the way you are calling it, meaning it will NOT be a closed system, but rather a different email that works seamlessly with the current email but in the meantime offer unique features.

In the case of email the existing system simply cannot be changed/improved because this will mean to cut off all free service offering companies from the pool of user data you know as profile. From exploiting this resource they make profits.

Hope I have address all your comments
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September 04, 2017, 02:08:52 PM
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Hi guys,

how is the pre-sale going?


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September 05, 2017, 06:30:02 AM
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We have decided to extend the presale until 20.09
The simple truth is that no sufficient funds have been raised because we burned the become popular enough stage.

Right now, our efforts are concentrated on:
- overhauling our design to display more comprehensive and clear information
- put emphasis on some details previously left in the background
- soon we expect to start a good marketing campaign
- also we expanded the team with developers and advisors

We believe this is a solid project and we prefer to pause/delay, optimize and then move forward rather than go on a wrong path and mess things up.

Bear with us please, it's our first ICO  Wink
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September 05, 2017, 06:41:46 AM
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Air drop and bounty can increase the heat of your community and become a hot pursuit
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September 05, 2017, 07:09:24 AM
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This made me curious to keep following future development anyway.

same here... still holding my fingers crossed though, as it's a nice idea
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September 05, 2017, 03:21:52 PM
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We have decided to extend the presale until 20.09
The simple truth is that no sufficient funds have been raised because we burned the become popular enough stage.

Right now, our efforts are concentrated on:
- overhauling our design to display more comprehensive and clear information
- put emphasis on some details previously left in the background
- soon we expect to start a good marketing campaign
- also we expanded the team with developers and advisors

We believe this is a solid project and we prefer to pause/delay, optimize and then move forward rather than go on a wrong path and mess things up.

Bear with us please, it's our first ICO  Wink


I really believe in your project will be successful later,
keep working hard so that many investors are interested to invest in this project
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September 05, 2017, 03:29:34 PM
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How does change services like mailinabox and protonmail? Will this system still work with legacy the legacy system? How does the team plan on interacting with businesses and business account? If migration is necessary, are there plans for that already?

If these questions are answered elsewhere, please let me know.
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September 05, 2017, 11:19:16 PM
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How does change services like mailinabox and protonmail? Will this system still work with legacy the legacy system? How does the team plan on interacting with businesses and business account? If migration is necessary, are there plans for that already?

If these questions are answered elsewhere, please let me know.

Protonmail is purely a centralized provider similar to Gmail just that they promise you privacy for inbox and sent emails within their network.
There is one purely mumbo jumbo marketing speech about the datacenter being under 1000 meters of solid rock bla bla like you ever heard of a hard break into a data center. Sorry, a "bunker" like they advertise it.
Also there is one partial mumbo jumbo speech about swiss privacy. Switzerland is not the heaven on privacy and you can look at the banking system. People keep money in swiss accounts to conserve them as a backup, otherwise Swiss has signed an agreement with the EU that will align Swiss bank practices with those of EU countries, and in effect will end the special secrecy that EU-resident clients of Swiss banks had enjoyed in the past.
It's not a bad service but it's just a step forward, Proemtheus is talking about a leap.
And you must ask yourself if Protonmail is free, who is paying for the data bunker and everything? I mean doing a good to humanity is ok, but if it has a cost who is paying? And for how long?

Mailinabox is somehow what we have in mind but first of all I see it's rather complicated to set up for the usual user. We aim for GUI and clicks.
They provide only the server part and not the email client. We will provide a complete solution, and also many features for the client because this is the most important element for the average user. The client UI the user sees and works within.
They offer the service only for Own_domain.Users. We plan to offer the service also for users not having their own domain (you can see this in our roadmap).
It's pricey ... USD 12/month and i will stop here.

The business account is a totally different story as that email is governed by the company/employer rules. We will present a solution for this area but further down the way.
Proemtheus will not be a closed system, it will work seamlessly with existing email from any provider.
Migration will be covered. After all we emphasized about email being the core of each user we don't expect them to start over with an empty account in 2017.

As soon as we release the new website with more comprehensive details and the updated whitepaper we will announce it here. Definetly one should read it.
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September 06, 2017, 07:55:10 AM
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From what I have looked around Proemtheus is the first team to propose an independent email.
For our team to have an independent email means:
- decentralized accounts
- keep all user data private
It also means that even if Proemtheus will cease to exist you can use our software to have an active email account.

Proemtheus will not be a platform in the way you are calling it, meaning it will NOT be a closed system, but rather a different email that works seamlessly with the current email but in the meantime offer unique features.

In the case of email the existing system simply cannot be changed/improved because this will mean to cut off all free service offering companies from the pool of user data you know as profile. From exploiting this resource they make profits.

Hope I have address all your comments


Hello.

Thanks for your answer you addressed almost all the comments.
That is nice to hear you plan to implement an open system.

My question was related about reuse of existing codebase of other projects or other similar project or collaboration
with developers that aim to decentralize services.

I have seen your latest post in the thread and it speak about "Mailinabox".
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2098671.msg21550317#msg21550317
I have never heard of it until now. Smiley

The question is could you reuse this code and build on top of that your email client or collaborate with the developer of that system
or you plan to build  the client from zero?

Also when it comes to email storage how your email clients will store the data ?
Can it use existing decentralized platforms / projects like Sia, Stor-J , datacoin, Burst to store data
or maybe integrate one of those existing applications:
https://prism-break.org/en/all/#file-storage-sync

specifically this one: https://tahoe-lafs.org/trac/tahoe-lafs

or you have to build this also from 0 as well?

If so what would be the reasons to build the system from 0 and not reuse the existing code?!


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September 06, 2017, 08:48:45 AM
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From what I have looked around Proemtheus is the first team to propose an independent email.
For our team to have an independent email means:
- decentralized accounts
- keep all user data private
It also means that even if Proemtheus will cease to exist you can use our software to have an active email account.

Proemtheus will not be a platform in the way you are calling it, meaning it will NOT be a closed system, but rather a different email that works seamlessly with the current email but in the meantime offer unique features.

In the case of email the existing system simply cannot be changed/improved because this will mean to cut off all free service offering companies from the pool of user data you know as profile. From exploiting this resource they make profits.

Hope I have address all your comments


Seems great, looking forward to more info!
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