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August 19, 2017, 09:38:12 AM |
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Holy Moly ... this really is getting absurd. Even without the "Risers" that motherboard has 22 PCIe slots. How are you going to connect 19, or 22 or 104 GPU's to one motherboard? How will you design a lattice around the motherboard and the PSU's that are almost equidistant, since longer USB cables cause issues. This is beyond practicality now.
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fmz89
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August 20, 2017, 03:52:01 AM |
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Holy Moly ... this really is getting absurd. Even without the "Risers" that motherboard has 22 PCIe slots. How are you going to connect 19, or 22 or 104 GPU's to one motherboard? How will you design a lattice around the motherboard and the PSU's that are almost equidistant, since longer USB cables cause issues. This is beyond practicality now. it wont work my boy, most cpu support 16/32 pcie lines, and amd threadripper only support 64pcie lines, core i9 only 44 pcie lines
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August 20, 2017, 06:33:24 AM Last edit: August 20, 2017, 06:43:34 AM by slickster100 |
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Take a look at this video - https://youtu.be/SB7T94PaNDo Similar riser card concept. The key is using the PLX Technologies chips that you can see in the video - http://www.mouser.com/ds/2/38/PEX8712_Product_Brief_v1.0_20Oct10-514315.pdfIt can be done, but at what cost and software will need to evolve to support all the cards on one OS, and the multitude of other reasons (like one motherboard dies and lots of hash goes down). I already use the -wd 0 command in claymore and if I see the hash rate drop in the monitor, then I know a GPU needs some attention (overclocked too high or dead). Some of you guys are already using a second power supply and should test (on the 12+ rigs) if the second PSU is shut off - does the miner continue hashing away, and just the GPU's attached to the turned off second power supply stop working, or does it take the whole miner down? If not, then I think eventually we will see 4u rack enclosures with just the GPU's and power supply in each, with long USB 3 cables routed down the rack to the motherboard in the bottom 4u enclosure that has the motherboard and multiple pci-e switching cards. To big for my budget, but something to envision. Edit - The card in the video is selling on Ebay for $125 US FYI - http://www.ebay.com/itm/142479750737
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August 20, 2017, 07:11:47 AM |
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do you know name/model number of that board?
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August 20, 2017, 07:16:32 AM |
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Asus B250 Mining Expert is the name of the model i think
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August 20, 2017, 07:27:20 AM |
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Asus B250 Mining Expert is the name of the model i think
That is a good name. This is right now the best mining board there is at moment, wonder when they will launch it.
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what is this "brake pedal" you speak of?
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August 20, 2017, 08:02:50 AM |
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it wont work my boy, most cpu support 16/32 pcie lines, and amd threadripper only support 64pcie lines, core i9 only 44 pcie lines
they use plx chips to split the lanes. entirely doable.
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August 20, 2017, 08:24:12 AM |
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heh, this is getting crazier day by day. But in other hand, market demand this kind of mobo, so Asus and Biostar build them.
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August 20, 2017, 09:01:15 AM |
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heh, this is getting crazier day by day. But in other hand, market demand this kind of mobo, so Asus and Biostar build them.
Biostar only 12 slots and 1 psu. So meaning you need a psu adaptor, the asus can power 19 slots and has 3 psu connection, The asus way better than anything else.
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August 20, 2017, 09:24:59 AM |
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I wonder how did they manage to get around the driver limitation of 8 GPUs per brand on Windows, if they even managed to do so. Linux is quite limited in overclocking/undervolting compared to Windows.
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August 20, 2017, 09:30:18 AM |
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I wonder how did they manage to get around the driver limitation of 8 GPUs per brand on Windows, if they even managed to do so. Linux is quite limited in overclocking/undervolting compared to Windows.
See that is the thing, we don't know if they achieved 19 gpus on windows.
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August 20, 2017, 01:03:38 PM |
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Asus has not claimed 19 gpus to work on this motherboard. They claimed via Twitter 16 only, So I guess 8 amd and 8 nvidia. So I guess they are talking about Windows 10 limitation. This is pretty mad - the ASUS B250 Mining Expert uses 3x 24-pin power connectors and supports up to 16 GPUs! https://twitter.com/ASUS_ROGUK/status/898511293665202176
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August 20, 2017, 01:23:42 PM |
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I wonder if this will cause a re-think in rig design. For 13 you can easily do the 2 level stagger but with 16+ I wonder if a circular case might be better.
Lots of pros and cons to this board. I'll wait to see how others make out. Troubleshooting an 8 card rig is already a pain.
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fran2k
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August 20, 2017, 02:07:08 PM |
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Looks good AF. But 19 GPUs... i would love to see uptime statistics on someone using this.
This. Also I would like to know which miners work already with more than 8 GPUs.
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hous26
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August 20, 2017, 02:43:48 PM |
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That is crazy. I can't wait for BitsBeTrippin to make a x19 1080 TI rig with that badboy. Can you imagine trying to find your bad riser in that?
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August 20, 2017, 02:50:51 PM |
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heh, this is getting crazier day by day. But in other hand, market demand this kind of mobo, so Asus and Biostar build them.
Biostar only 12 slots and 1 psu. So meaning you need a psu adaptor, the asus can power 19 slots and has 3 psu connection, The asus way better than anything else. true, this 3x psu connector on the motherboard is quite "interesting" feature.
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October 05, 2017, 04:12:07 PM |
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the pcie slot detection has been enabled in other Motherboards already.
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