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Question: Which do you like more to play with bitcoins ?
Poker - 26 (52%)
Dice - 13 (26%)
Roulette - 3 (6%)
Other - 8 (16%)
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November 27, 2017, 07:49:35 PM
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Poker is just like another gambling game only different thing with poker is it is way more strategic than any other game it depends on the moves one has to make it might differ from person to person but learning poker is still very hard and the house edge is also really high it's better if you avoid playing poker
poker games should have many strategies
for people who still lack understanding of poker gambling
it's best not to try to gamble poker
because sooner or later you will run out of balance that you have and finally the only defeat you suffer and this will be difficult for beginners.
only sports gambling is suitable for beginner gamblers
the casino world is too hard for beginners
casino can be really hard but you can try dice as well it is really easily to understand how dice sites works
casino is just with too many rules which many begineers wont easily understand. sports betting is only good
if you can predict the result

Poker games  might be tough, but its more fun when its a challenging one and when one can use his brains beside being lucky. Dice is kind of easy but if you play with high edge, you need to be too lucky. For beginners sports is easy as often its quite easy to predict actually, unless the the one you bet upon plays miserably worst, and that happens, but its easy enough than Poker and all.
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December 01, 2017, 05:34:06 AM
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I only play dice I really don't play poker simply because I could not understand it . Poker is very complicated game and I don't like those type of games I am much more on simplicity and dice sites give me that within just a couple of second I could already understand If I win or lose unlike other casino games very complicated
The Poker game is complicated but it is profitable game to cmpare Dice game. and this game you could not play if you don't have any knowldge about this game. The Dice game without having knowledge also you can play and it is easy to play. but making profit in dice game is difficult. i don't know how you may make profit in this game but i did not make any big profit. if you learn how to play poker game i am sure you like this game.

I agree that it is much harder to earn in dice games, but it isn't easy either to earn in poker. Main difference is, like you mentioned , that poker requires knowledge, while dice doesn't, so it is much easier to play dice games than poker, which requires lots of thinking. Both games are luck based though, so even if you played poker for years you can still lose if you're unlucky.

And poker used to be easier years ago. Nowadays the environment has changed. A big chunk of poker’s profit came from rakeback and that’s been cut virtually to zero. The average player nowadays knows a lot more about player than when I started, back in 2011, because there are many poker schools, poker forums etc. so even weak players are better than they were years ago (on average).

Poker has lost a lot of profitability and this has been discussed widely on twoplustwo forum. Of course, there are still people that make a lot of money and still quite a few that get an extra income but most of them are making way less than years ago.


My main intention to start this thread was to know whether the websites that provide poker services male more money or not . I agree with you when it comes to poker players , it's difficult now to win continuously because many poker players play very well and it's difficult to win tourneys.

Well poker sites do make more money. Bigger amounts go to poker rather than dice or any other gambling since poker attracts more experienced and mature gamblers. It's harder to win, that's a given with the vast talent of poker players but its fun and regular people play it anyway. Even if we say that there are more people playing online casino games and dice, i think poker sites attracts more profit for investors.
If you ask me then the only real game in the gambling world is Poker. All others are just kid’s play. In poker, a gambler gets the chance to use his skills. He can use his analytical skills to catch anyone’s bluff. This is why many gamblers love to play poker but it loses its essence when played online.

Poker is fun only in the real environment when the opponent is sitting right across the player. Poker is just love of mature gamblers.
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December 01, 2017, 06:35:09 AM
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We all know how much bitcoin users love dice but I think even poker websites ( bitcoin supporting sites ) also generate same or even more revenue than dice sites . Do you guys play only dice or only poker or both using bitcoins ?

O think a lot of users or players like poker more than dice just because it adds a whole of dimension whenever you are okaying it. It is also ideal because there is a lot kore enjoyment there I think while prizes might be higher in dice that is something that cannot be duplicated

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December 01, 2017, 06:35:48 AM
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I only play dice I really don't play poker simply because I could not understand it . Poker is very complicated game and I don't like those type of games I am much more on simplicity and dice sites give me that within just a couple of second I could already understand If I win or lose unlike other casino games very complicated
The Poker game is complicated but it is profitable game to cmpare Dice game. and this game you could not play if you don't have any knowldge about this game. The Dice game without having knowledge also you can play and it is easy to play. but making profit in dice game is difficult. i don't know how you may make profit in this game but i did not make any big profit. if you learn how to play poker game i am sure you like this game.

I agree that it is much harder to earn in dice games, but it isn't easy either to earn in poker. Main difference is, like you mentioned , that poker requires knowledge, while dice doesn't, so it is much easier to play dice games than poker, which requires lots of thinking. Both games are luck based though, so even if you played poker for years you can still lose if you're unlucky.

And poker used to be easier years ago. Nowadays the environment has changed. A big chunk of poker’s profit came from rakeback and that’s been cut virtually to zero. The average player nowadays knows a lot more about player than when I started, back in 2011, because there are many poker schools, poker forums etc. so even weak players are better than they were years ago (on average).

Poker has lost a lot of profitability and this has been discussed widely on twoplustwo forum. Of course, there are still people that make a lot of money and still quite a few that get an extra income but most of them are making way less than years ago.


My main intention to start this thread was to know whether the websites that provide poker services male more money or not . I agree with you when it comes to poker players , it's difficult now to win continuously because many poker players play very well and it's difficult to win tourneys.

Well poker sites do make more money. Bigger amounts go to poker rather than dice or any other gambling since poker attracts more experienced and mature gamblers. It's harder to win, that's a given with the vast talent of poker players but its fun and regular people play it anyway. Even if we say that there are more people playing online casino games and dice, i think poker sites attracts more profit for investors.
If you ask me then the only real game in the gambling world is Poker. All others are just kid’s play. In poker, a gambler gets the chance to use his skills. He can use his analytical skills to catch anyone’s bluff. This is why many gamblers love to play poker but it loses its essence when played online.

Poker is fun only in the real environment when the opponent is sitting right across the player. Poker is just love of mature gamblers.

Yeah poker is indeed good but you can't generally say that everything else is kid's play. There is still blackjack, baccarat, sports betting, and a lot of other skill based games. Poker is just one of them but there are quite a lot of other games that are complex and require a lot of skill yet it is still fun to play. Poker isn't everybody's cup of tea, hence they still choose other games beside poker which is normal and that is why a lot of gambling sites are offering other games aside from poker. In fact, poker is likely one of the fewer games available compared to casino games like slots and dice.
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December 01, 2017, 06:37:34 AM
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I only play dice I really don't play poker simply because I could not understand it . Poker is very complicated game and I don't like those type of games I am much more on simplicity and dice sites give me that within just a couple of second I could already understand If I win or lose unlike other casino games very complicated
The Poker game is complicated but it is profitable game to cmpare Dice game. and this game you could not play if you don't have any knowldge about this game. The Dice game without having knowledge also you can play and it is easy to play. but making profit in dice game is difficult. i don't know how you may make profit in this game but i did not make any big profit. if you learn how to play poker game i am sure you like this game.

I agree that it is much harder to earn in dice games, but it isn't easy either to earn in poker. Main difference is, like you mentioned , that poker requires knowledge, while dice doesn't, so it is much easier to play dice games than poker, which requires lots of thinking. Both games are luck based though, so even if you played poker for years you can still lose if you're unlucky.

And poker used to be easier years ago. Nowadays the environment has changed. A big chunk of poker’s profit came from rakeback and that’s been cut virtually to zero. The average player nowadays knows a lot more about player than when I started, back in 2011, because there are many poker schools, poker forums etc. so even weak players are better than they were years ago (on average).

Poker has lost a lot of profitability and this has been discussed widely on twoplustwo forum. Of course, there are still people that make a lot of money and still quite a few that get an extra income but most of them are making way less than years ago.


My main intention to start this thread was to know whether the websites that provide poker services male more money or not . I agree with you when it comes to poker players , it's difficult now to win continuously because many poker players play very well and it's difficult to win tourneys.

Well poker sites do make more money. Bigger amounts go to poker rather than dice or any other gambling since poker attracts more experienced and mature gamblers. It's harder to win, that's a given with the vast talent of poker players but its fun and regular people play it anyway. Even if we say that there are more people playing online casino games and dice, i think poker sites attracts more profit for investors.
If you ask me then the only real game in the gambling world is Poker. All others are just kid’s play. In poker, a gambler gets the chance to use his skills. He can use his analytical skills to catch anyone’s bluff. This is why many gamblers love to play poker but it loses its essence when played online.

Poker is fun only in the real environment when the opponent is sitting right across the player. Poker is just love of mature gamblers.
The thing you said was right on which it is much more better to play poker offline or physically than on playing it online i dont really feel the chill and the excitement when i do play it against other player face to face but well we cant really remove those games which are really like kids play which mostly on dice and slots but they are famous even if we dont like it because some people do really still play these games because results are instant.

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December 01, 2017, 10:44:15 AM
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We all know how much bitcoin users love dice but I think even poker websites ( bitcoin supporting sites ) also generate same or even more revenue than dice sites . Do you guys play only dice or only poker or both using bitcoins ?

I don't think poker sites can be a competition to dice sites at all those which are accepting bitcoins. People love playing dice games as it has more risk but more chances of getting a lot of profit at the same time. They (including me) enjoy playing dice and using all the strategies to try their luck every now and then, which i don't think people do a lot on poker sites or maybe it is not possible to apply any strategies in poker (i don't know because i never play poker).
gambling is gambling and gambler is a gambler.what matter what game it is whats
important to them is what table can bring them luck so they will play both games,

But what about me a slots fanatic,you should out other games in choices so many can
cooperate.

Regardinh the Ops question i should choose both poker and dice.
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December 01, 2017, 05:48:51 PM
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Poker is just like another gambling game only different thing with poker is it is way more strategic than any other game it depends on the moves one has to make it might differ from person to person but learning poker is still very hard and the house edge is also really high it's better if you avoid playing poker
poker games should have many strategies
for people who still lack understanding of poker gambling
it's best not to try to gamble poker
because sooner or later you will run out of balance that you have and finally the only defeat you suffer and this will be difficult for beginners.
only sports gambling is suitable for beginner gamblers
the casino world is too hard for beginners
casino can be really hard but you can try dice as well it is really easily to understand how dice sites works
casino is just with too many rules which many begineers wont easily understand. sports betting is only good
if you can predict the result

Sports betting and poker is only suited for a small amount of people who have the nak for it. Dice anyone can play and know they won't be at any disadvantage besides the house edge. Poker you against other players who could be very good. Betting you need to know the sort very well and each player and teams weakness and strengths. It's not easy. Even trading is the same. So I think dice is so popular for it's ease of use and also it's fast.

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December 02, 2017, 01:03:36 PM
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I mostly like to play Roulette, and sometime the slot machines.

Roulette is simple especially when you apply martingale strategy to the colors, either black or red or the numbers  either even or odd. I've made so me cool money that way but you must have an unlimited bankroll to be successful with martingale .
Martingale never works on any games , believe me its just luck that you came out victorious . I prefer other strategies though ( there are tons of strategies for roulette ) .

I doubt he is telling the truth. When you apply martingale what you do is the following:

You bet $10 (for example), and you lose, so you double your bet. In that second bet you are putting $20 on the table but you have already lost $10, so you have spent 10+20= $30. If you win, you get $40 but you spent $30, so you only won $10 (actually a bit less).

If you lose that second bet, you double it again, but again you have already spent $70 and if you win you will only get a net profit of $10.
So, what you are doing is risking more money every time, actually doubling your risk, to make little profit.

It would be interesting if he explains how he made so much cool money using martingale.


Hint: he said: "you must have an unlimited bankroll to be successful with martingale" which is why I mentioned you need to have accumulated over 2048 satoshi (and start playing with 1 satoshi). My modified version requires a minimum balance of double that.

It depends how safe you want to be. with a minimum of 2048,  would give you the chance to survive up to a 12x losing streak, with 32768 staoshi you could survive a 16x losing streak. with 0.00524288 BTC, you could survive up to 20x losing streak... and so on. All assuming your starting bet is 1 satoshi.

So he's not necessarily lying!

If he had lets say he has the following:

balance: BTC27:

starting bet: 10 satoshi

He should be able (by average) to survive a 29x losing streak. The probability of losing 29 times in a row is veeeery very unlikely

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December 02, 2017, 01:36:49 PM
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Both using bitcoins.
There are time when dice games gets boring and you want something else to do and vice versa with poker. FYI I do actual betting and not relying on bots.
So I will need to look for something new. I even played roulette using different coins just so I could try something else.
I think this is one problem of every gambler. Instead of losing all your money in one game out of boring circumstances then just switch to enjoy it more.
It will be good if one gambling site can hold a lot of games too
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December 02, 2017, 03:36:20 PM
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I mostly like to play Roulette, and sometime the slot machines.

Roulette is simple especially when you apply martingale strategy to the colors, either black or red or the numbers  either even or odd. I've made so me cool money that way but you must have an unlimited bankroll to be successful with martingale .
Martingale never works on any games , believe me its just luck that you came out victorious . I prefer other strategies though ( there are tons of strategies for roulette ) .

I doubt he is telling the truth. When you apply martingale what you do is the following:

You bet $10 (for example), and you lose, so you double your bet. In that second bet you are putting $20 on the table but you have already lost $10, so you have spent 10+20= $30. If you win, you get $40 but you spent $30, so you only won $10 (actually a bit less).

If you lose that second bet, you double it again, but again you have already spent $70 and if you win you will only get a net profit of $10.
So, what you are doing is risking more money every time, actually doubling your risk, to make little profit.

It would be interesting if he explains how he made so much cool money using martingale.


Hint: he said: "you must have an unlimited bankroll to be successful with martingale" which is why I mentioned you need to have accumulated over 2048 satoshi (and start playing with 1 satoshi). My modified version requires a minimum balance of double that.

It depends how safe you want to be. with a minimum of 2048,  would give you the chance to survive up to a 12x losing streak, with 32768 staoshi you could survive a 16x losing streak. with 0.00524288 BTC, you could survive up to 20x losing streak... and so on. All assuming your starting bet is 1 satoshi.

So he's not necessarily lying!

If he had lets say he has the following:

balance: BTC27:

starting bet: 10 satoshi

He should be able (by average) to survive a 29x losing streak. The probability of losing 29 times in a row is veeeery very unlikely
It's true that it's highly unlikely and no I didn't think he is lying too but howmuchever unlikely it might be in gambling but it will still happen . I have seen people on dice loosing 35 times in a row with 2x .



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December 02, 2017, 03:50:39 PM
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Probably poker is still the best to play, I mean this is the game that suits me that much. I love playing poker, and I think that poker is a great game where you could play with other people and win a lot of money. But I am more on the physically playing the game.
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December 02, 2017, 05:17:03 PM
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O think a lot of users or players like poker more than dice just because it adds a whole of dimension whenever you are okaying it. It is also ideal because there is a lot kore enjoyment there I think while prizes might be higher in dice that is something that cannot be duplicated
The key difference between poker and dice is that,anyone could play dice and you really do not need to have any knowledge about the game and the win percentage is all about luck and that is not the case with poker,if you are good at it,then you could win more rather than playing with luck alone and that is the main difference.I like to play dice than poker but i like roulette too.
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December 03, 2017, 08:41:13 AM
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We all know how much bitcoin users love dice but I think even poker websites ( bitcoin supporting sites ) also generate same or even more revenue than dice sites . Do you guys play only dice or only poker or both using bitcoins ?


Absolutely,for me both of them is nice to play the poker or other online casino games,they have a different in  style in terms of playing,but for me whenever i have a feeling to whom i lucky to play now, thats's kind of games i used to play,as long as i gain profitable, whatever kind of  gambling games is that i go and enjoy that kind of recreation.

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December 03, 2017, 04:19:21 PM
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We all know how much bitcoin users love dice but I think even poker websites ( bitcoin supporting sites ) also generate same or even more revenue than dice sites . Do you guys play only dice or only poker or both using bitcoins ?


Absolutely,for me both of them is nice to play the poker or other online casino games,they have a different in  style in terms of playing,but for me whenever i have a feeling to whom i lucky to play now, thats's kind of games i used to play,as long as i gain profitable, whatever kind of  gambling games is that i go and enjoy that kind of recreation.

The thing is that you have to specifically go to a poker site or casino site than caters poker before you can play. Dice though can be founf anywhere evem in exchanges so people access dice a lot more easily.

 
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December 03, 2017, 04:38:13 PM
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I prefer to choose is poker than other casino games online. Poker is the best gambling online
because we play it with other people.

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December 03, 2017, 09:13:08 PM
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I prefer to choose is poker than other casino games online. Poker is the best gambling online
because we play it with other people.

Yeah and you can actually win money vs other people as long as the rake stays low enough or the players are bad enough.
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December 05, 2017, 06:05:22 PM
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Poker games  might be tough, but its more fun when its a challenging one and when one can use his brains beside being lucky. Dice is kind of easy but if you play with high edge, you need to be too lucky. For beginners sports is easy as often its quite easy to predict actually, unless the the one you bet upon plays miserably worst, and that happens, but its easy enough than Poker and all.
Poker games are actually very tough and you really need some level of understanding, skills and strategy to play that game. It is not a game for the weak hands most especially if you are playing against other good poker players. As much as it all still balls down on luck, you still need some of those things I have mentioned above.

All the above, when it comes to other games like dice, it is just luck base and nothing else. You can only use strategies like martingale to maybe give you some longer chance of consistent winning, but it is still not guaranteed if luck is not on your side, which is why most people just go the dice, plinko, or roulette way.
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December 05, 2017, 07:44:39 PM
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Poker games  might be tough, but its more fun when its a challenging one and when one can use his brains beside being lucky. Dice is kind of easy but if you play with high edge, you need to be too lucky. For beginners sports is easy as often its quite easy to predict actually, unless the the one you bet upon plays miserably worst, and that happens, but its easy enough than Poker and all.
Poker games are actually very tough and you really need some level of understanding, skills and strategy to play that game. It is not a game for the weak hands most especially if you are playing against other good poker players. As much as it all still balls down on luck, you still need some of those things I have mentioned above.

All the above, when it comes to other games like dice, it is just luck base and nothing else. You can only use strategies like martingale to maybe give you some longer chance of consistent winning, but it is still not guaranteed if luck is not on your side, which is why most people just go the dice, plinko, or roulette way.

Actually, there are some poker games formats that give a higher chance to weak players, even if they play against pros. In sit and goes and MTTs, luck plays a bigger role than, say, playing NLHE Full Ring.

Apart from that, casinos have been implementing more casino-like poker games, like spins, which are more based on luck and leave less room for poker players’ skill.

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December 05, 2017, 10:28:35 PM
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Poker games  might be tough, but its more fun when its a challenging one and when one can use his brains beside being lucky. Dice is kind of easy but if you play with high edge, you need to be too lucky. For beginners sports is easy as often its quite easy to predict actually, unless the the one you bet upon plays miserably worst, and that happens, but its easy enough than Poker and all.
Poker games are actually very tough and you really need some level of understanding, skills and strategy to play that game. It is not a game for the weak hands most especially if you are playing against other good poker players. As much as it all still balls down on luck, you still need some of those things I have mentioned above.

All the above, when it comes to other games like dice, it is just luck base and nothing else. You can only use strategies like martingale to maybe give you some longer chance of consistent winning, but it is still not guaranteed if luck is not on your side, which is why most people just go the dice, plinko, or roulette way.
Games like "POKER" was need a high IQ because if you play this game without any strategy on how to defeat your opponent, I guess everytime you play this game you have no chances to win.

Poker game is not like slot machine or rolling dice that all you need is luck to win the game, because this game you just need to think many times before you made a decision.

Actually for me poker is a mind game, that sometimes you just need to bluff your opponent to defeat it on the battle.
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December 07, 2017, 10:17:20 AM
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Poker games  might be tough, but its more fun when its a challenging one and when one can use his brains beside being lucky. Dice is kind of easy but if you play with high edge, you need to be too lucky. For beginners sports is easy as often its quite easy to predict actually, unless the the one you bet upon plays miserably worst, and that happens, but its easy enough than Poker and all.
Poker games are actually very tough and you really need some level of understanding, skills and strategy to play that game. It is not a game for the weak hands most especially if you are playing against other good poker players. As much as it all still balls down on luck, you still need some of those things I have mentioned above.

All the above, when it comes to other games like dice, it is just luck base and nothing else. You can only use strategies like martingale to maybe give you some longer chance of consistent winning, but it is still not guaranteed if luck is not on your side, which is why most people just go the dice, plinko, or roulette way.

Given the house edge, martingale will only lead you to an ultimate loss in the end. There is no way to make consistent winnings at dice games unless you can rig the odds in your favor somehow. But that would have nothing to do with gambling, obviously. Dice is not for profits, it is for your pleasure.

On the other hand, as others have already said, poker is different in this regard but I'm still curious if online poker is not being played by bots nowadays just like it is with chess. Does anyone know such bots? Do they really exist or there is something which makes them impossible or prevents them from playing more or less decently in comparison to humans?
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