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May 20, 2013, 10:10:35 PM
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I have just been at bitcoin conference in san Jose ca, this was a great thing for bitcoin. One thing I noticed while at the conference is there where heaps of ripple employees/promoters their pretending to be bitcoin users and supporters. They where very sneaky and have also disguised themselves on this forum as bitcoin users by building up lots of posts. Have have seen ripple for what it is now. ripple is a group of people trying to fool people into using their system and their own crypto currency to get rich and hold a monopoly on the market.
ripple is not decentralized.
ripple is polluting bitcoin. they do not like bitcoin and this can be seen easily when speaking to them face to face. don't be fooled by clever marketing.
Ripple should only ever be discussed in alternate crypto section.

I am re posting this hear because it was deleted from the ripple for bitcoin users discussion.
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May 20, 2013, 10:59:48 PM
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Why are all the post's being deleted by the ripple guys? This Is a Bitcoin Discussion not a Ripple Discussion. Huh
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May 20, 2013, 11:04:20 PM
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All agreed.

The mods need to move the Ripple stuff to Alt Cryptocurrencies.

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May 20, 2013, 11:04:29 PM
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Why are all the post's being deleted by the ripple guys? This Is a Bitcoin Discussion not a Ripple Discussion. Huh

Perhaps you failed to observe that my Ripple Explained for Bitcoiners! thread is self-moderated. Look closely and you'll see this explained at the top of the thread.

The reason it is moderated is because a vocal minority has so much irrational emotional hatred for Ripple that they have made it difficult for Bitcoiners, who are definitely interested in learning how Ripple enhances Bitcoin, to participate in a civil discourse.

If you have a legitimate question that is not already answered, or you want to bring up a factual point that hasn't been made then I welcome you to my moderated thread.

For whatever else you have to say, feel free to post in any of the other unmoderated threads with your views, such as this one:

Why Ripple™ is against everything Bitcoin
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May 20, 2013, 11:06:12 PM
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The mods need to move the Ripple stuff to Alt Cryptocurrencies.

Nope, because Ripple is a way to move Bitcoins around. Ripple is not an alternate currency, although there is a currency built into it. If anything, all of the negative threads that seem to want to focus on this built in currency should be moved. But "Ripple Explained for Bitcoiners!" is 100% relevant to Bitcoin discussion.

Ironically Ripple is the closest thing we have to a distributed exchange for Bitcoin, which is what everyone has been clamoring for after the MtGox DDoS and crash from $266, and now that we're talking about it you want to move the thread?
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May 20, 2013, 11:10:23 PM
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I think this should be moved to "meta"?

The thing is, you can use Ripple to send IOUs denominated in BTC, so there is some overlap in the discussion of Ripple and Bitcoins. Discussions about XRP go into "alt currecies", but talkig about how to use Ripple to move bitcoins should go somewhere else in the forum, maybe "project development" or "trading".

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May 20, 2013, 11:15:39 PM
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At some point, maybe they should just create a separate Ripple topic since it's not technically part of core Bitcoin land, and also attracts a ton of heat/controversy/spam from random people in every single thread.
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May 20, 2013, 11:17:31 PM
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I would like to see Ripple in a section that covers general gateways and payment services such as Paypal, Google Checkout, Dwolla and so on. You could argue that many altcoins are similarly, if not more tied to Bitcoin then Ripple.
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May 20, 2013, 11:22:26 PM
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If this were a democracy, I'd vote for alt-currencies or something to do with payment systems. That way those who are interested in learning about Ripple would have a resource on this site from which they could post updates and announcements for discussion.  

And of course, there's nothing stopping the Ripple folks from having their own forum someplace else either if they can't find a place that fits.

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May 20, 2013, 11:39:32 PM
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Why are all the post's being deleted by the ripple guys? This Is a Bitcoin Discussion not a Ripple Discussion. Huh

Perhaps you failed to observe that my Ripple Explained for Bitcoiners! thread is self-moderated. Look closely and you'll see this explained at the top of the thread.

The reason it is moderated is because a vocal minority has so much irrational emotional hatred for Ripple that they have made it difficult for Bitcoiners, who are definitely interested in learning how Ripple enhances Bitcoin, to participate in a civil discourse.

If you have a legitimate question that is not already answered, or you want to bring up a factual point that hasn't been made then I welcome you to my moderated thread.

For whatever else you have to say, feel free to post in any of the other unmoderated threads with your views, such as this one:

Why Ripple™ is against everything Bitcoin


I hate the fact that you are trying to disguise yourselves as bitcoin users and you guys are flooding our forums and even the bitcoin conference with your agents to try to fool unaware bitcoin users into thinking other bitcoin users are all on board with it. You have been called out now for what you guys are. Before I meet you guy's in person at the bitcoin conference you may have had a chance with attempting to fool me but I saw straight through you guy's. You are working like you are all getting paid to do so why?
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May 20, 2013, 11:42:12 PM
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You are working like you are all getting paid to do so why?

Speaking only for myself, I recognize the enormous value that Ripple will bring to Bitcoin and the world, and I want to do as much as I can to make the project successful. Ripple is great for consumers and loosens the traditional financial system's monopoly on money transmission.

Bitcoin is great, don't get me wrong, but have you tried to send U.S. dollars or Euros using Bitcoin? It doesn't work very well.


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May 20, 2013, 11:44:57 PM
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The mods need to move the Ripple stuff to Alt Cryptocurrencies.

Nope, because Ripple is a way to move Bitcoins around. Ripple is not an alternate currency, although there is a currency built into it. If anything, all of the negative threads that seem to want to focus on this built in currency should be moved. But "Ripple Explained for Bitcoiners!" is 100% relevant to Bitcoin discussion.

Ironically Ripple is the closest thing we have to a distributed exchange for Bitcoin, which is what everyone has been clamoring for after the MtGox DDoS and crash from $266, and now that we're talking about it you want to move the thread?


Just because you say something about bitcoin in your title does not mean that it has anything to do with bitcoin discussion. I am more and more inclined to call ripple a new scam the way it's being pushed. Ripple has nothing to do with bitcoin and you are clearly trying to pull a loophole to keep your thread in it's place. This is a clear tactic you are using. Everyone wants your ripple add off the bitcoin discussion thread.
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May 20, 2013, 11:46:58 PM
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We need more ripple paranoia.
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May 20, 2013, 11:50:56 PM
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You are working like you are all getting paid to do so why?

Speaking only for myself, I recognize the enormous value that Ripple will bring to Bitcoin and the world, and I want to do as much as I can to make the project successful. Ripple is great for consumers and loosens the traditional financial system's monopoly on money transmission.

Bitcoin is great, don't get me wrong, but have you tried to send U.S. dollars or Euros using Bitcoin? It doesn't work very well.



Is very easy actually. You are obviously heavily invested in XRP and Ripple or you are the guy printing them. Ripple will put everything in your hand's Right? So now if I was to use ripple I would lose badly because I am speaking against your attempt at a crypto currency. You can't delete what I write about ripple here hay bro?    
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May 20, 2013, 11:54:50 PM
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I have just been at bitcoin conference in san Jose ca, this was a great thing for bitcoin. One thing I noticed while at the conference is there where heaps of ripple employees/promoters their pretending to be bitcoin users and supporters. They where very sneaky and have also disguised themselves on this forum as bitcoin users by building up lots of posts. Have have seen ripple for what it is now. ripple is a group of people trying to fool people into using their system and their own crypto currency to get rich and hold a monopoly on the market.
ripple is not decentralized.
ripple is polluting bitcoin. they do not like bitcoin and this can be seen easily when speaking to them face to face. don't be fooled by clever marketing.
Ripple should only ever be discussed in alternate crypto section.

I am re posting this hear because it was deleted from the ripple for bitcoin users discussion.

So it is like Ripple is the Romney campaign with paid supporters while Bitcoin is the Ron Paul campaign with unpaid grassroots supporters.

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May 20, 2013, 11:56:34 PM
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So it is like Ripple is the Romney campaign with paid supporters while Bitcoin is the Ron Paul campaign with unpaid grassroots supporters.

LOL....

No, its more like Bitcoin is Ron Paul: completely rigid in his ideology and too set in his ways to consider other possibilities.

And Ripple is Rand Paul: younger, more open minded, more energy, able to get more things done because he tries to work within the system instead of trying to challenge it directly.
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May 20, 2013, 11:56:53 PM
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I have just been at bitcoin conference in san Jose ca, this was a great thing for bitcoin. One thing I noticed while at the conference is there where heaps of ripple employees/promoters their pretending to be bitcoin users and supporters. They where very sneaky and have also disguised themselves on this forum as bitcoin users by building up lots of posts. Have have seen ripple for what it is now. ripple is a group of people trying to fool people into using their system and their own crypto currency to get rich and hold a monopoly on the market.
ripple is not decentralized.
ripple is polluting bitcoin. they do not like bitcoin and this can be seen easily when speaking to them face to face. don't be fooled by clever marketing.
Ripple should only ever be discussed in alternate crypto section.

I am re posting this hear because it was deleted from the ripple for bitcoin users discussion.

So it is like Ripple is the Romney campaign with paid supporters while Bitcoin is the Ron Paul campaign with unpaid grassroots supporters.

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May 20, 2013, 11:58:49 PM
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 Ripple is not an alternate currency, although there is a currency built into it....


Interesting Paradox.

BTW, can Ripple technology work without the use of the "built in currency"?

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May 20, 2013, 11:59:59 PM
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I have just been at bitcoin conference in san Jose ca, this was a great thing for bitcoin. One thing I noticed while at the conference is there where heaps of ripple employees/promoters their pretending to be bitcoin users and supporters. They where very sneaky and have also disguised themselves on this forum as bitcoin users by building up lots of posts. Have have seen ripple for what it is now. ripple is a group of people trying to fool people into using their system and their own crypto currency to get rich and hold a monopoly on the market.
ripple is not decentralized.
ripple is polluting bitcoin. they do not like bitcoin and this can be seen easily when speaking to them face to face. don't be fooled by clever marketing.
Ripple should only ever be discussed in alternate crypto section.

I am re posting this hear because it was deleted from the ripple for bitcoin users discussion.

So it is like Ripple is the Romney campaign with paid supporters while Bitcoin is the Ron Paul campaign with unpaid grassroots supporters.
This is exactly what I noticed. People involved in ripple seem like they are involved because they are being employed by a big company. Bitcoin users and supporters are involved because they believe in bitcoin and love what it is.
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May 21, 2013, 12:01:15 AM
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 Ripple is not an alternate currency, although there is a currency built into it....


Interesting Paradox.

BTW, can Ripple technology work without the use of the "built in currency"?



No, because XRP is needed to facilitate transfers.

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