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December 07, 2010, 12:40:45 AM
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http://www.theregister.co.uk/2010/12/06/anonymous_launches_pro_wikileaks_campaign/

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December 07, 2010, 01:30:57 AM
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How many readers interpreted that piece to say that Paypal got DoSsed?

Look closer;

> a DDoS assault on a PayPal website.

> denial of service attacks will also come into play with an assault against the ThePayPalblog.com.

Paypals' BLOG is getting the treatment.

Thanks for the weasel-tale John Leyden. I'll be sure to remember you in my yellow file.


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December 07, 2010, 01:32:42 AM
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DDoS doesn't produce anything productive. It's a version of a mob.

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December 07, 2010, 01:36:25 AM
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Unlike paypal If anonymous ddoses bitcoin they will actually earn money by generating coins lol.
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December 07, 2010, 07:46:24 AM
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Unlike paypal If anonymous ddoses bitcoin they will actually earn money by generating coins lol.

a DDoS attack must involve a denial of service. Generating the block chain is the providing of a service, so it is not a DDoS attack.

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December 07, 2010, 07:12:36 PM
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Unlike paypal If anonymous ddoses bitcoin they will actually earn money by generating coins lol.

a DDoS attack must involve a denial of service. Generating the block chain is the providing of a service, so it is not a DDoS attack.

no agenda made a joke. I laughed.

No comment on how this reporter has tried to mislead us in classic word-wanker fork-tongued style?

To me that's the only thing about this story worth commenting on - the reporter lying to us.

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December 08, 2010, 04:14:49 AM
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lol, in retrospect I must have left my scene of humor in my bed that day  Grin

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December 09, 2010, 10:36:00 AM
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Unlike paypal If anonymous ddoses bitcoin they will actually earn money by generating coins lol.

a DDoS attack must involve a denial of service. Generating the block chain is the providing of a service, so it is not a DDoS attack.

LMAO!!!

Denial of Service Attack => Providing of Service Contribution  Smiley

Anyway, I was listening to yesterday's Free Talk Live, and during minute 22 of that mp3, they talked about Mastercard/Visa's inability to process transactions, and did make the astute point that Visa/Mastercard are highly insecure, considering the fact that yesterday's DDoS attack was able to take them down.  So, this should be a great way to market bitcoin: it is DDoS resistant.  Do you think this is an accurate claim?  Or do you know of any actual DDoS *attacks* on bitcoin?  If I was listening live, I would have called in to promote bitcoin's superiority in this regard.

Later during minute 32, the two hosts Ian and Mark did their regular request for donations to their AMP marketing program...but they had to reluctantly admit that they use PayPal, Visa, and MasterCard because they don't have good alternatives:

time 32:45 - Ian Freeman, "Go to AMP.FreeTalkLive.com, and I know PayPal is on there.  What else can you do?  There just aren't very many convenient payment systems on the internet...unfortunately we have to hold our nose a little bit...we do accept Visa and MasterCard, as well when they are up an running."
time 33:02 - Mark Edge, "One a good opportunity presents itself..."
time 33:05 - Ian Freeman, "Where's the agorist payment processor!?!"

Again, if I was listening to the show's live radio broadcast EST 7pm-10pm, then I would have called in and encouraged them to adopt bitcoin donation and allow bitcoin AMPlifiers.  To be honest, I had canceled my AMP payments after I lost faith in PayPal.  Anyway, maybe several of us can call together to the show to promote bitcoin?  I could call, but I am probably not the best communicator of the details of bitcoin's operation.

Also, maybe us bitcoiners who like FreeTalkLive could make a pooled bitcoin donation?  Anyone else intersted?  I will pledge to donate 100 bitcoins.  (I suppose I should start a separate thread for this)

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Governments are good at cutting off the heads of a centrally controlled networks, but pure P2P networks are holding their own."
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December 09, 2010, 11:52:41 AM
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Unlike paypal If anonymous ddoses bitcoin they will actually earn money by generating coins lol.

a DDoS attack must involve a denial of service. Generating the block chain is the providing of a service, so it is not a DDoS attack.

LMAO!!!

Denial of Service Attack => Providing of Service Contribution  Smiley

Anyway, I was listening to yesterday's Free Talk Live, and during minute 22 of that mp3, they talked about Mastercard/Visa's inability to process transactions, and did make the astute point that Visa/Mastercard are highly insecure, considering the fact that yesterday's DDoS attack was able to take them down.  So, this should be a great way to market bitcoin: it is DDoS resistant.  Do you think this is an accurate claim?  Or do you know of any actual DDoS *attacks* on bitcoin?  If I was listening live, I would have called in to promote bitcoin's superiority in this regard.

Later during minute 32, the two hosts Ian and Mark did their regular request for donations to their AMP marketing program...but they had to reluctantly admit that they use PayPal, Visa, and MasterCard because they don't have good alternatives:

time 32:45 - Ian Freeman, "Go to AMP.FreeTalkLive.com, and I know PayPal is on there.  What else can you do?  There just aren't very many convenient payment systems on the internet...unfortunately we have to hold our nose a little bit...we do accept Visa and MasterCard, as well when they are up an running."
time 33:02 - Mark Edge, "One a good opportunity presents itself..."
time 33:05 - Ian Freeman, "Where's the agorist payment processor!?!"

Again, if I was listening to the show's live radio broadcast EST 7pm-10pm, then I would have called in and encouraged them to adopt bitcoin donation and allow bitcoin AMPlifiers.  To be honest, I had canceled my AMP payments after I lost faith in PayPal.  Anyway, maybe several of us can call together to the show to promote bitcoin?  I could call, but I am probably not the best communicator of the details of bitcoin's operation.

Also, maybe us bitcoiners who like FreeTalkLive could make a pooled bitcoin donation?  Anyone else intersted?  I will pledge to donate 100 bitcoins.  (I suppose I should start a separate thread for this)


I emailed Ian awhile ago about accepting bitcoin. I might try doing it again now all the wikileaks stuff is out there.

Should we setup a mybitcoin account and email Ian with the login details?

The only downfall is the lack of a subscription feature for bitcoin. That is how the amplifier program works...a lot of people sending small amounts each month automatically. I suppose we could always buy madhatters bitcoin visa cards and use them to subscribe.  Cheesy



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December 09, 2010, 12:45:50 PM
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Unlike paypal If anonymous ddoses bitcoin they will actually earn money by generating coins lol.

a DDoS attack must involve a denial of service. Generating the block chain is the providing of a service, so it is not a DDoS attack.

LMAO!!!

Denial of Service Attack => Providing of Service Contribution  Smiley

Anyway, I was listening to yesterday's Free Talk Live, and during minute 22 of that mp3, they talked about Mastercard/Visa's inability to process transactions, and did make the astute point that Visa/Mastercard are highly insecure, considering the fact that yesterday's DDoS attack was able to take them down.  So, this should be a great way to market bitcoin: it is DDoS resistant.  Do you think this is an accurate claim?  Or do you know of any actual DDoS *attacks* on bitcoin?  If I was listening live, I would have called in to promote bitcoin's superiority in this regard.

Later during minute 32, the two hosts Ian and Mark did their regular request for donations to their AMP marketing program...but they had to reluctantly admit that they use PayPal, Visa, and MasterCard because they don't have good alternatives:

time 32:45 - Ian Freeman, "Go to AMP.FreeTalkLive.com, and I know PayPal is on there.  What else can you do?  There just aren't very many convenient payment systems on the internet...unfortunately we have to hold our nose a little bit...we do accept Visa and MasterCard, as well when they are up an running."
time 33:02 - Mark Edge, "One a good opportunity presents itself..."
time 33:05 - Ian Freeman, "Where's the agorist payment processor!?!"

Again, if I was listening to the show's live radio broadcast EST 7pm-10pm, then I would have called in and encouraged them to adopt bitcoin donation and allow bitcoin AMPlifiers.  To be honest, I had canceled my AMP payments after I lost faith in PayPal.  Anyway, maybe several of us can call together to the show to promote bitcoin?  I could call, but I am probably not the best communicator of the details of bitcoin's operation.

Also, maybe us bitcoiners who like FreeTalkLive could make a pooled bitcoin donation?  Anyone else intersted?  I will pledge to donate 100 bitcoins.  (I suppose I should start a separate thread for this)


I emailed Ian awhile ago about accepting bitcoin. I might try doing it again now all the wikileaks stuff is out there.

Yes, email him again...and feel free to include the above direct quote of Ian in your appeal.  Also, I think calling live on air is always great promotion, so I encourage you to do that as well...

Should we setup a mybitcoin account and email Ian with the login details?

Doesn't it make more sense for Ian to setup an account himself?  I tend to not trust that I have sole access to any accounts that someone provided me the password for in plain text email, because that means that two people know the password.  Or Ian could download the bitcoin client himself and provide us an address.  Anyway, if we start a donation thread here, hopefully we can raise enough donation funds as a one-time incentive for FTL to post a bitcoin address on their website.

The only downfall is the lack of a subscription feature for bitcoin. That is how the amplifier program works...a lot of people sending small amounts each month automatically.

Good point.  Surely this could be easily implemented as a cron job on mybitcoin's server (or on the subscriber's own local computer) to send a fixed amount at a specified time.  Anyway, subscription is going to be something that the market will demand...so we should start thinking about ways to implement a bitcoin subscription system.

I suppose we could always buy madhatters bitcoin visa cards and use them to subscribe.  Cheesy

Cheesy haha...but no, I think this "solution" misses the point Smiley

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Governments are good at cutting off the heads of a centrally controlled networks, but pure P2P networks are holding their own."
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December 13, 2010, 01:22:06 PM
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All these attacks are false flags to shut down the web,
thanks to shittyleaks, the US congress is passing legislation in the lameduck sessions now
to shut down the web, and thats not all, FCC says "free and unregulated media is over and that is has been a privilege for far to long".
 
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