Xbox One

[Lethn]

I think that was the case, could be wrong though.

[ranlo]

I think i'll think pass on this xbox.

I said this for most of this generation of consoles. I enjoy PC gaming much much more.

I like pc gaming too but local multiplayer is important to me and that's pretty much nonexistent in pc gaming.

He's right, game developers have been quietly eliminating LAN gaming for years now, Blizzard got rid of it in Starcraft 2 if I recall correctly and only put it in after a lot of demands from their customers, how these people get away with such shit and still make millions is beyond me.

A lot of games still allow you to play via lan by inputting your LAN ip in the connection area (instead of a server ip), but you're definitely right about it being phased out. I just don't think it's as popular as it used to be. Everyone wants to play online.

[Welsh]

I think i'll think pass on this xbox.

I said this for most of this generation of consoles. I enjoy PC gaming much much more.

Well I like it as well, the problem is I am missing out on adventure games like uncharted and heavy rain. I was happy that mass effect came to PC though.

Hopefully, developers will tell Microsoft where to go and revert to PC, unlikely but we can wish can't we?

lol, sadly this is never going to happen. If it did, they'd move from DirectX and on to OpenGL for cross-platform games. Sadly Microsoft still has the monopoly and for the foreseeable future still will.

It's sad but I guess it's the truth. 

Oh, it definitely is. And it's the only reason I still use Windows over Ubuntu: gaming. There was one group that was trying to create a DX implementation for Linux but there have been no updates since 2011. Guessing it fell apart.

We NEED something better than WINE.

WINE is ******* dreadful.

[mprep]

I think i'll think pass on this xbox.

I said this for most of this generation of consoles. I enjoy PC gaming much much more.

Well I like it as well, the problem is I am missing out on adventure games like uncharted and heavy rain. I was happy that mass effect came to PC though.

Hopefully, developers will tell Microsoft where to go and revert to PC, unlikely but we can wish can't we?

lol, sadly this is never going to happen. If it did, they'd move from DirectX and on to OpenGL for cross-platform games. Sadly Microsoft still has the monopoly and for the foreseeable future still will.

It's sad but I guess it's the truth. 

Oh, it definitely is. And it's the only reason I still use Windows over Ubuntu: gaming. There was one group that was trying to create a DX implementation for Linux but there have been no updates since 2011. Guessing it fell apart.

We NEED something better than WINE.

WINE is ******* dreadful.

Better than nothing though.

[ranlo]

Better than nothing though.

Really don't know how much I agree with that. I've wasted so much time trying to get WINE to work with some things... I could have back a large portion of my life if it had never existed -- I'd have simply stayed with Windows from the get-go, :p.

[atariguy]

I actually bought my Xbox 360 for the Kinect, so I could play the exercise games. Then I also got into the Rock Band games (Beatles Rock Band is totally awesome!).

The Kinect on the Xbox One sounds terrific, and if there are new exercise games that really take advantage of it, it may be worth the upgrade. But I only just bought the 360 about 6 months ago, so it's way too early to justify an upgrade for me.

However, I did manage to snag a preorder before they stopped offering it, on the chance that I change my mind by the time it's released, since Amazon won't charge me until it's shipped. Or maybe I'll sell it for a few bitcoins? 

[Lethn]

By the way, one of my friends posted this on facebook and I think it describes the Xbox One prefectly

[freedomno1]

I'm a loyal Xbox fan but I can say that if MS does not step up its game we lost this gen by a lot!

[ranlo]

By the way, one of my friends posted this on facebook and I think it describes the Xbox One prefectly

You can't play Halo with a rock though!

[Lethn]

Yeah, but you can play with a rock without an internet connection

[ranlo]

Yeah, but you can play with a rock without an internet connection

lol, true. I guess you can play Halo with it in real-life too. May get arrested though!

[mprep]

By the way, one of my friends posted this on facebook and I think it describes the Xbox One prefectly

Probably the most accurate description EVER.

[atariguy]

I actually bought the 360 for the Kinect, so I always play with a camera connected already... 

[ranlo]

I actually bought the 360 for the Kinect, so I always play with a camera connected already... 

The difference is the 360 doesn't imply that the camera is always active. You can tell by whether or not the red light is on. And it also doesn't require you to be online to play single-player games. This is where the privacy concerns come from.

[atariguy]

I actually bought the 360 for the Kinect, so I always play with a camera connected already... 

The difference is the 360 doesn't imply that the camera is always active. You can tell by whether or not the red light is on. And it also doesn't require you to be online to play single-player games. This is where the privacy concerns come from.

It does require you to be online the first time you play a game though (and regularly thereafter).

Also, I remember seeing a clarification that the One will act the same way with single player games.

Most of the games I play on my PC these days also require me to be online - even for single player (via Steam, Origin, or whatever). Not sure what the difference is?

[ranlo]

I actually bought the 360 for the Kinect, so I always play with a camera connected already... 

The difference is the 360 doesn't imply that the camera is always active. You can tell by whether or not the red light is on. And it also doesn't require you to be online to play single-player games. This is where the privacy concerns come from.

It does require you to be online the first time you play a game though (and regularly thereafter).

Also, I remember seeing a clarification that the One will act the same way with single player games.

Most of the games I play on my PC these days also require me to be online - even for single player (via Steam, Origin, or whatever). Not sure what the difference is?

You're misunderstanding my post. I was saying the 360 doesn't have those problems. The One does. This is why I will refuse to purchase the One.

The PC, while some games require you to be online, do not require that you keep a web camera and microphone hooked up to your system at all times. There is a massive difference.

[atariguy]

I see. Perhaps they will make changes if there are enough people that feel that way.

The main showstopper for me is just that it's not backwards compatible. I just bought all my 360 stuff within the last 6 months.

[ranlo]

I see. Perhaps they will make changes if there are enough people that feel that way.

The main showstopper for me is just that it's not backwards compatible. I just bought all my 360 stuff within the last 6 months.

BC is a big issue too but if you already have a 360... I see it as being like PSX and PS2. I had both but usually used the PSX for PSX games, :p.

[Dacm4n]

I like pc gaming too but local multiplayer is important to me and that's pretty much nonexistent in pc gaming.

Uhh...what?

In my mind I believe you're referring to something along the lines of "split screening" for multiplayer / coop ...otherwise, LAN party anyone?

People still have LAN parties? :p.

And I think he means like... on a console (split screen, as you said) you can have 4 people playing one copy of a game. On PC you need 4 copies.

Yup that's it. No way i'm buying 4 copies of a game just to play with family members. Also most don't allow more than 1 controller at a time so you need a bunch of keyboards it's just a hassle.

[mprep]

I like pc gaming too but local multiplayer is important to me and that's pretty much nonexistent in pc gaming.

Uhh...what?

In my mind I believe you're referring to something along the lines of "split screening" for multiplayer / coop ...otherwise, LAN party anyone?

People still have LAN parties? :p.

And I think he means like... on a console (split screen, as you said) you can have 4 people playing one copy of a game. On PC you need 4 copies.

Yup that's it. No way i'm buying 4 copies of a game just to play with family members. Also most don't allow more than 1 controller at a time so you need a bunch of keyboards it's just a hassle.

Playing with family is usually considered casual gaming and consoles are very well suited for this case. However if you're into hardcore gaming,  a PC is a necesity.