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August 26, 2017, 09:36:25 AM
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rbtc-censorship
https://gist.github.com/chris-belcher/c9f4b90bec1b2fbf8caaab178719ac24



"Roger Ver openly admitting that he will promote BCash as Bitcoin"
https://de.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/7jzpir/after_roger_ver_openly_admitting_that_he_will/


"MtGox is fine" Roger Ver
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UP1YsMlrfF0
Thousands of people lost their life savings on Mtgox shortly after that.


Mr.-Vers-Guilty-Plea
http://lesperanceassociates.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/03/Mr.-Vers-Guilty-Plea.pdf


Vote manipulation:
https://twitter.com/brian_trollz/status/887699030901501952?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fs9e.github.io%2Fiframe%2Ftwitter.min.html%23887699030901501952


Astroturfing - "Roger Ver pays a public relations company to astroturf social media with anti-core, pro-BU propaganda."- former mod
https://twitter.com/notgrubles/status/842826844311375872


Roger´s sockpuppets:
https://de.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/87t3ot/delicious_proof_that_roger_employs_sockpuppets/

https://twitter.com/DanDarkPill/status/979325093666082817




Bought accounts to push agenda:

https://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/6uqz6k/markets_update_bitcoin_cash_rallies_for_three/dlurbpx/


MemoryDealers.com founder Roger Ver abuses admin access at Blockchain.info
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=131608.0;all


Roger buying likes on twitter
https://twitter.com/Excellion/status/900445557436538880


Roger Ver Lies
https://decentralize.today/roger-ver-lies-f5333e152858


Antpool = Viabtc conclusive proof
https://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/6v2fic/in_case_you_still_didnt_believe_it_antpool_viabtc/


The fee lie - Everyone can see that roger ver is lying again when there are literally no txs in the #Bitcoin mempool and 5 sat txs are in the next block
https://twitter.com/WhalePanda/status/903866375567007745


More fee lies from "Bitcoin Judas"
https://twitter.com/WhalePanda/status/921994604500709377


Roger´s emotional acting: "BABIES ARE DYING BECAUSE OF BITCOIN"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KsYlW-gG16k&feature=youtu.be
(He has done similar actings in different TV interviews)


Roger Ver is a scammer confirmed
https://de.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/98zss2/roger_ver_is_a_scammer_confirmed/


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Roger Ver lies more often than he tells the truth. This is not an attack, just an objective observation of the facts.

"Mt. Gox is totally fine." (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UP1YsMlrfF0) ... shortly thereafter Mt. Gox implodes ... "I am here to 'apologize'. Even though everything I said when I told you 'Mt. Gox is fine' was true, I am sorry that some of you lost money when it collapsed. Buy ether."

"I am banned from posting in /r/Bitcoin" ... accidentally posts to /r/Bitcoin ... "Oops. Now I'll pretend like I never claimed to be banned from /r/Bitcoin, and ignore anyone who asks me about that claim."

"I've dumped a few hundred BTC for BCC"... 2 weeks later: "I haven't sold a single Bitcoin for Bitcoin Cash up until yesterday"

He lies about the subreddit he controls. He regularly lies about his holdings. He lied and scammed his way into the bitcoin.com domain, which he uses to push out FUD about Bitcoin and its developers. He lies on agreements he signs (e.g. "the bitcoin.com pool will mine with NYA/btc1/2x code... whoops just kidding, we're mining bcash instead"). He even had the audacity to lie about what happened in court, when there is a public transcript available which disproves everything he said.

There are more examples of blatant deception that I don't have the time or patience to dig up right now. Make no mistake: the man is, unfortunately, a sociopath.

https://de.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/6xpu8j/roger_ver_lies/
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August 26, 2017, 09:59:30 AM
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Nobody cares.
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August 26, 2017, 11:00:23 AM
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Nobody cares.

Says the shill.

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August 26, 2017, 11:35:38 AM
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What is astroturfing?I`ve never heard about this term.
Anyway,great investigation, man.We have to know who are the real bitcoin core enemies.
On the other side,i understand the mindset of all the bitcoin cash/altcoin supporters and btc core haters.
They are always trying to compromise bitcoin core in order to buy some cheap btc and resell them for profits.
Then they use those profits to fund their crypto project and pump their altcoins.

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August 26, 2017, 11:37:12 AM
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Why Theymos is against Roger?
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August 26, 2017, 12:20:04 PM
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The shills are very much real both here and on reddit and other social media. There's a very clear pattern for anti-Core posters - most of them have 1-2 weeks old accounts, then there's a smaller amount of bought accounts - determined by finding large gaps in activity and sudden change in posting style. The number of genuine users with anti-Core position who regularly join discussions is very-very small - around 10-15 profiles on this forum. It's pretty obvious that there's ongoing paid shill campaign against Core and pro-Bcash, pro-SegWit2x. I recommend ignoring fresh/suspicious shill accounts to avoid feeding the trolls.

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August 26, 2017, 12:25:21 PM
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I highly suspected Roger was astroturfing for quite a long time. Sad to see it and now some evidence has been discovered by people this is the case.

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August 27, 2017, 03:24:36 AM
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I've never paid any sort of social media company to astroturf anything, ever.

The person who initially made this claim has since retracted it and apologized as well.

This whole thread is nonsense.

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August 27, 2017, 03:28:32 AM
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I've never paid any sort of social media company to astroturf anything, ever.

The person who initially made this claim has since retracted it and apologized as well.

This whole thread is nonsense.

Lol back to bitcoincashtalk right? Or is that still in the works? I saw those blocks this past week were quite the mess. Hopefully your altcoin sorts itself out before it crashes to nothing.
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August 28, 2017, 04:55:43 PM
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What is astroturfing?I`ve never heard about this term.
Anyway,great investigation, man.We have to know who are the real bitcoin core enemies.
On the other side,i understand the mindset of all the bitcoin cash/altcoin supporters and btc core haters.
They are always trying to compromise bitcoin core in order to buy some cheap btc and resell them for profits.
Then they use those profits to fund their crypto project and pump their altcoins.

Creating the impression of public support by paying people in the public to pretend to be supportive.

http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=astroturf
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August 28, 2017, 04:57:42 PM
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The shills are very much real both here and on reddit and other social media. There's a very clear pattern for anti-Core posters - most of them have 1-2 weeks old accounts, then there's a smaller amount of bought accounts - determined by finding large gaps in activity and sudden change in posting style. The number of genuine users with anti-Core position who regularly join discussions is very-very small - around 10-15 profiles on this forum. It's pretty obvious that there's ongoing paid shill campaign against Core and pro-Bcash, pro-SegWit2x. I recommend ignoring fresh/suspicious shill accounts to avoid feeding the trolls.

indeed. some noobs might get the impression that these are "real people" but they are not for the most part. this is why Roger Ver´s actions are so toxic, they lead new members into this crazy conspiracy theories.  Undecided
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August 28, 2017, 05:18:54 PM
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Let's do a fact check on this from a neutral (we're all biased, but less annoying at least) perspective.

1.  Vote manipulation - no proof.
2.  Astroturfing - no proof.
3.  Bought accounts to push agenda - no link to Roger Ver, but could be true (seems likely).  You should switch it to "an account" and "bought or hacked" as this is one account and becoming active after a long time suggests that it could have been hacked.  Also be tentative here, because this is reasoning rather than evidence.
4.  MemoryDealers.com founder Roger Ver abuses admin access at Blockchain.info - yep.  Ver stepped out of line here.
5.  Roger buying likes on twitter - you would have thought that with his thousands of BTC, he would have done a better job of it.  Especially considering that the vast majority of top comments on his posts are negative.  I can see how this is potentially shady, but still not really proof.
6.  Antpool was tagged and they responded to it.  I don't see the connection.  There's nothing wrong with them knowing ViaBTC's policy.

Overall, I don't see any particularly good evidence.
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August 29, 2017, 04:33:10 PM
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Let's do a fact check on this from a neutral (we're all biased, but less annoying at least) perspective.

4.  MemoryDealers.com founder Roger Ver abuses admin access at Blockchain.info - yep.  Ver stepped out of line here.


Roger Ver is a former politician and convicted felon, just imagine what he is doing today with all his investments...
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September 03, 2017, 06:46:07 AM
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Roger Ver lies more often than he tells the truth. This is not an attack, just an objective observation of the facts.

"Mt. Gox is totally fine." (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UP1YsMlrfF0) ... shortly thereafter Mt. Gox implodes ... "I am here to 'apologize'. Even though everything I said when I told you 'Mt. Gox is fine' was true, I am sorry that some of you lost money when it collapsed. Buy ether."

"I am banned from posting in /r/Bitcoin" ... accidentally posts to /r/Bitcoin ... "Oops. Now I'll pretend like I never claimed to be banned from /r/Bitcoin, and ignore anyone who asks me about that claim."

"I've dumped a few hundred BTC for BCC"... 2 weeks later: "I haven't sold a single Bitcoin for Bitcoin Cash up until yesterday"

He lies about the subreddit he controls. He regularly lies about his holdings. He lied and scammed his way into the bitcoin.com domain, which he uses to push out FUD about Bitcoin and its developers. He lies on agreements he signs (e.g. "the bitcoin.com pool will mine with NYA/btc1/2x code... whoops just kidding, we're mining bcash instead"). He even had the audacity to lie about what happened in court, when there is a public transcript available which disproves everything he said.

There are more examples of blatant deception that I don't have the time or patience to dig up right now. Make no mistake: the man is, unfortunately, a sociopath.

https://de.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/6xpu8j/roger_ver_lies/
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October 10, 2017, 03:39:38 PM
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Roger Ver Lies

I am one of the calmer Bitcoiners, who do not weigh in too much into the scaling debate, but rather silently writes code. But not today.

https://decentralize.today/roger-ver-lies-f5333e152858
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October 10, 2017, 03:41:50 PM
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What is astroturfing?I`ve never heard about this term.
Anyway,great investigation, man.We have to know who are the real bitcoin core enemies.
On the other side,i understand the mindset of all the bitcoin cash/altcoin supporters and btc core haters.
They are always trying to compromise bitcoin core in order to buy some cheap btc and resell them for profits.
Then they use those profits to fund their crypto project and pump their altcoins.

Creating the impression of public support by paying people in the public to pretend to be supportive.

http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=astroturf

Many real companies are also into astro turfing no?  I've heard of companies like ms doing it as well.
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October 22, 2017, 07:18:58 AM
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added more lies from Roger:


https://twitter.com/WhalePanda/status/921994604500709377
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November 14, 2017, 09:54:32 AM
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I hope what I read about Roger is not lies   Huh Huh

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December 15, 2017, 08:00:54 PM
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"Roger Ver openly admitting that he will promote BCash as Bitcoin"

https://de.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/7jzpir/after_roger_ver_openly_admitting_that_he_will/
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December 15, 2017, 08:05:40 PM
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I'm sure every faction is at it either subtly or not so subtly.

And Antpool/Viabtc doesn't have to be confirmed to know they work hand in hand if they're not the exact same operation.

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