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Hi everybody it'sEnko dev here to answer all your questions.
About the team, all you are absolutely RIGHT.At the PRE-ICO we don't reveal the team. Why? We have daytime jobs, and this topic is quite controversial. To work on a project like Enko, we all need to quit the "normal" job and dive into this. If the Pre-ICO will be successful, we will post our identities for Pre-ICO contributors, before the big ICO. Because we will have to quit the normal jobs to work on this project.
There is a lot of dangers for developers of such site. As stated in our whitepaper, some developers are sentenced for pimping.
Regarding our possible link to lust, eros.vision and others - guys, just check the whitepaper. You will see the difference. We have a deep understanding how to make all this work.
In the Pre-ICO, it is not the money that matters. 150k we need to go on - is not a big deal. We are looking for community support to spread the word. This way we will make it work.
Danger for developers??? Ah and after the ICO its no longer dangerous? Who are your represantatives? They dont have names? Anyways, there are also some other things which make you absolutely not trustworthy First of all, thank you for your interest! ICO Contributors are anonymous, and they don't have any risk except of loosing 1-2 ETH. Developers have more severe risks, as stated in our WhitePaper: BackPage: http://www.npr.org/sections/thetwo-way/2016/10/07/497006100/ceo-of-backpage-com-arrested-charged-with-pimpingMyRedBook: http://www.mercurynews.com/2015/05/21/mastermind-of-bay-area-prostitution-website-sent-to-prison/More information: www.enkoproject.com/whitepaper_en.pdfI think your request is more than fair, I will ask who of the Representatives wish to put their name and social contacts in our frontpage. Representatives??? You used pictures of several fashion Sites. No Identities, no company name....... As long as you do not prove the opposite.. You are a SCAMMERThat is not true. You can see facebook links there and you can ask those people about Enko. They will confirm they are reps. Thank you for your interest! ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) Oh nice. Your black spanish guy turn into a white guy a and your white russian girl into a men SCAM
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August 30, 2017, 07:01:52 PM Last edit: August 30, 2017, 07:26:19 PM by supermodelawards2018 |
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Hi everybody it'sEnko dev here to answer all your questions.
About the team, all you are absolutely RIGHT.At the PRE-ICO we don't reveal the team. Why? We have daytime jobs, and this topic is quite controversial. To work on a project like Enko, we all need to quit the "normal" job and dive into this. If the Pre-ICO will be successful, we will post our identities for Pre-ICO contributors, before the big ICO. Because we will have to quit the normal jobs to work on this project.
There is a lot of dangers for developers of such site. As stated in our whitepaper, some developers are sentenced for pimping.
Regarding our possible link to lust, eros.vision and others - guys, just check the whitepaper. You will see the difference. We have a deep understanding how to make all this work.
In the Pre-ICO, it is not the money that matters. 150k we need to go on - is not a big deal. We are looking for community support to spread the word. This way we will make it work.
Danger for developers??? Ah and after the ICO its no longer dangerous? Who are your represantatives? They dont have names? Anyways, there are also some other things which make you absolutely not trustworthy First of all, thank you for your interest! ICO Contributors are anonymous, and they don't have any risk except of loosing 1-2 ETH. Developers have more severe risks, as stated in our WhitePaper: BackPage: http://www.npr.org/sections/thetwo-way/2016/10/07/497006100/ceo-of-backpage-com-arrested-charged-with-pimpingMyRedBook: http://www.mercurynews.com/2015/05/21/mastermind-of-bay-area-prostitution-website-sent-to-prison/More information: www.enkoproject.com/whitepaper_en.pdfI think your request is more than fair, I will ask who of the Representatives wish to put their name and social contacts in our frontpage. Representatives??? You used pictures of several fashion Sites. No Identities, no company name....... As long as you do not prove the opposite.. You are a SCAMMERThat is not true. You can see facebook links there and you can ask those people about Enko. They will confirm they are reps. Thank you for your interest! ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) Oh nice. Your black spanish guy turn into a white guy a and your white russian girl into a men SCAMDon't see any clue in your formula "man <-> woman = scam " or "white <-> black = scam" I still have much to learn ![Cheesy](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cheesy.gif) BTW, We have 172 followers and 54 early bird requests from investors
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August 30, 2017, 08:57:07 PM |
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And now you replaced some images![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FvsQkRNA.jpg&t=665&c=0MhLKlOdhXTDsw) ![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2Fo51Gr6G.jpg&t=665&c=ak5wkgOPuh8W6w) You did that already with your other SCAM ICO(dwallet & lust). I told you i will recognize all your coming SCAMS and bust you. SCAM
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August 30, 2017, 09:02:19 PM |
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Sooo... Is it like for any kind of services? According to your description
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August 30, 2017, 10:40:23 PM |
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so...
About the airdrop dev is still on ?
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August 30, 2017, 10:45:53 PM |
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What's the point of having TOR/VPN connection for a match if people meets in person afterwards? Also, how does ENKO relate to its customer's physical safety? How can I be sure not to meet some creep with your service?
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August 30, 2017, 11:14:40 PM |
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From Whitepaper...
"The profit will be directed for redemption of tokens by system at stock exchange. Total amount of tokens will reduce at purchase of tokens by the system. As a result, the cost of tokens in circulation will increase. Let's see how tokens are distributed. The first month. In the first month, we get profit of $143,000 000.00 USD and place it at the stock exchange as a bid to buy 20,000, 000.00 tokens. The price of one token is calculated as follows: $143,000, 000.00 USD/20,000, 000.00 = $7.15 USD. Let's say 2, 000.00 (10%) tokens were sold for $14,000, 000.00 USD. As a result, 20,000, 000.00 - 2, 000.00 = 000, 000.00 tokens remain in the system. $143,000, 000.00 USD-$14,300, 000.00 USD = $128,700, 000.00 USD remain as a bid for token purchase. The second month. In the second month, the profit made $143,000, 000.00 USD. These funds are added to money remained "
Can you please elaborate on this... the way ive interpreted this is that you expect to earn $143 million in profit in month 1?
this section of the whitepaper confuses me, can someone please explain a different way
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August 30, 2017, 11:16:54 PM |
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Of course we replaced, because now we are posting people who is okey about showing their identity. Just like you asked before. Now you are unhappy... again ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif)
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August 30, 2017, 11:22:42 PM |
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Sooo... Is it like for any kind of services? According to your description
In first place it is about sex-services. All other services are for the same customers. For example, they need hotel to use the callgirl, need a taxi, sometimes they needs restaurants to spend time with a callgirl (yes, some customers really do that don't ask me why), medicine services to take care of unlucky adventures... I am elaborating for the most easy case, if the provider and customer are in one city. If they are in different cities or countries, they need a lot of services to organize the trip, and I know a lot of tourism agencies would like to take part of that cake. The point is anonymity and ease to pay, just like you pay for an app in Itunes or Play.
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August 30, 2017, 11:48:55 PM |
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What's the point of having TOR/VPN connection for a match if people meets in person afterwards? Also, how does ENKO relate to its customer's physical safety? How can I be sure not to meet some creep with your service?
That are very good questions. 1. TOR/VPN The internet provider can see what sites the customer visit and use it against the customer. In countries with high level of corruption it can be used to blackmail the customer (since the customer may have family, kids or be a celebrity or politic). In countries with strict laws against prostitution it also can be used against the customer. The first step to safety, is keep the internet connection encrypted and secure. 2. Physical safety The best way to guarantee that is use a reputation system. Smaller part of customers always want more risk (are adventurous), and a bigger part less risk (are conservative). The adventurous part take adrenaline, use the service and build reputation for sellers. Conservative customers should pick callgirls with good reputation. Generally, customers should first see the provider in public places, without revealing themselves. For example, in a coffee shop near the hotel. If they like what they see, they go to the hotel room to have some fun. In brief, if a customer want to have zero risk, he will pick a prostitute with good reputation, and will avoid dangerous places - staying in clean small hotels instead of going to some brothels. I would recommend small 3 star hotels from well-known hotel networks (room price will be $50-$100 per night). And if the customer see the callgirl more then one time, he can ask her to take the room with her id, not showing his id (that's my personal lifehack ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) ).
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August 30, 2017, 11:53:03 PM |
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From Whitepaper...
"The profit will be directed for redemption of tokens by system at stock exchange. Total amount of tokens will reduce at purchase of tokens by the system. As a result, the cost of tokens in circulation will increase. Let's see how tokens are distributed. The first month. In the first month, we get profit of $143,000 000.00 USD and place it at the stock exchange as a bid to buy 20,000, 000.00 tokens. The price of one token is calculated as follows: $143,000, 000.00 USD/20,000, 000.00 = $7.15 USD. Let's say 2, 000.00 (10%) tokens were sold for $14,000, 000.00 USD. As a result, 20,000, 000.00 - 2, 000.00 = 000, 000.00 tokens remain in the system. $143,000, 000.00 USD-$14,300, 000.00 USD = $128,700, 000.00 USD remain as a bid for token purchase. The second month. In the second month, the profit made $143,000, 000.00 USD. These funds are added to money remained "
Can you please elaborate on this... the way ive interpreted this is that you expect to earn $143 million in profit in month 1?
this section of the whitepaper confuses me, can someone please explain a different way
Thanks
That is correct,but the first month it is when everything will be smooth and running. According to our Roadmap, is should be on May 2018: "Profit growth slows down and reaches target figures." Does it answer to your question?
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August 30, 2017, 11:58:06 PM |
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What role will your token have?
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August 31, 2017, 12:16:19 AM |
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Is the team composed of Russian people? This market approach is based on which country or continent? What justifies you gaining 3x faster than any other mining? There are already people calling it SCAM, how sad. ![Undecided](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/undecided.gif) Yes we do have Russians in the team. The market approach is based on Ukraine, Poland, Russia and Brazil as countries who export a lot of sex-workers around the world. We know the numbers since we have experience in exporting that. Mining gets harder every day, because the quantity of mined coins is decreasing. In Enko, the situation is different. We have a limited quantity of electronic shares (tokens, coins) the more our service will grow, the more profit will be accumulated in every token. Since the clients use crypto-currency to pay, we use the same crypto-currency to pay the investors. But you may say: the price of sex services is not linked to crypto! If a guy want to buy a callgirl for $100 USD, he will not pay $150 USD just because BTC or ETH price changed. That is right, we will earn less crypto from every deal, but the quantity of deals will increase. Mining farm: hardware get outdated and is expensive to change, high recurring costs - electricity, place rental efficiency of mining constantly decreases Enko: "hardware" also get old but are changed without charges, zero recurring costs, efficiency of earning constantly increases (after we spend some money on advertising) I, personally, don't think it is sad when somebody doesn't like Enko. It is controversial but modern and high-tech. I imagine how many people said "SCAM" to Satoshi Nakamoto when he started bitcoin. Now bitcoin is going up like crazy every week.
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August 31, 2017, 12:21:30 AM |
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well, another one of those adult themed ICOs, which goes nowhere after a week or so.
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August 31, 2017, 12:43:00 AM |
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What role will your token have?
At first, the role is to kickstart the project. After kickstarting, from May 2018, we would like to make it an independent crypto-currency with very strong base. Bitcoin's grow is speculative, bitcoin 'mining' have no sense at all- there is no practical use to guess a number. If the mining could help build a useful, profitable service it would be a better asset then bitcoin. Using tokens is convenient for kickstart contributors, because you can buy and sell the token any time from September 28. I know not every contributor would hold Enko tokens for ever, most will buy in the first week when the price will be the best, and sell it in December 2017 when the big ICO will start.
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August 31, 2017, 01:06:38 AM |
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well, another one of those adult themed ICOs, which goes nowhere after a week or so.
Okey let's think about possible scenarios. Now we are starting the Pre-ICO to raise 500k. In December we will try to raise 20 millions. Tokens will be tradeable from September 28, 2017. I think we have two scenarios. Scenario 1. We are legit, and our project will make us and all our contributors rich. There is no comments required, all is obvious and everybody is happy. Scenario 2. We are scam, and we want to take all the money and run. It sounds very unpleasantly, but I am trying to be as objective as possible. I don't think 500k is a good target for a scammer. I would say the dangerous moment will be in the end of December 2017, when all Pre-ICO contributors who wanted to sell their tokens will do it with some profit and we sell all issued tokens to new contributors. To avoid the scenario 2 in December, new contributors should carefully check how correct is the information we give and the promises we keep. In December 2017, we plan to show a fully-working prototype with sellers and customers. Any contributor will be able to register and check how it works before investing. Maybe even check a few times
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August 31, 2017, 01:18:19 AM |
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Most people are like the TOR network, especially the work in the network, for pay, the more hidden, because we are ordinary people are exposed to the network is just the tip of the iceberg, more is actually darknet.
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August 31, 2017, 08:09:32 AM |
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You mentioned some countries that are a worldwide consumer of pornography, just added United States! How can I get Enko in addition to investments in ICO? Are there any bounty rewards or is mining having low difficulty?
Yes there will be another ways to get Enko except investing and selling sex services. Specifically, there is two alternative ways to get Enko: 1. To install an entry gate. It can be a ClearNet site, DarkNet site, itunes or google pay app. Basically it is similar to the classic whitelabel partnership program. The partner (person who setup the gate) promote it under his own label but have all the database of sex-workers available using the API. That way the partner will earn part of the commission. 2. To setup a node. It is close to classical mining, but no useless numbers to be guessed by the computer. The partner installs the software, and it uses some space and internet traffic to host part of Enko ledger. All stored information will be encrypted, and stored partially. All software will be open-source so partners will be sure there will be no unpleasant surprises in the software. If you wish to learn more, I invite you to read our whitepaper : www.enkoproject.com/whitepaper_en.pdfI stay ready to answer all questions you may have.
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August 31, 2017, 10:06:47 AM |
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!!! Warning !!!
This ICO has been exposed as fraudulent
!!! Warning !!!Anybody wearing their signature or promoting this scam will be tagged with negative trust. Remove your support immediately or face the consequences.See this scam accusation thread for details: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2134783.msg21340862#msg21340862
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WARNING!!! Check your forum URLs carefully and avoid links to phishing sites like 'thebitcointalk' 'bitcointalk.to' and 'BitcointaLLk'
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August 31, 2017, 10:42:54 AM Last edit: August 31, 2017, 11:01:38 AM by supermodelawards2018 |
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You proof is not valid. We cannot check the ID of every contributor who want to be a representative. We will check this one, but you can contact directly the contributor using facebook in our frontpage. It's the same thing that if you post Jennifer Lopes picture in your Facebook page, and then you accuse Facebook of being scam. Nobody (especially me) said it's a team. In our whitepaper is clearly stated that we are not going public now. Any bounty hunter or contributor may be hired for the Regional representative to consult and promote Enko. I appreciate the job you both guys are doing to keep the forum clean. But in this case, you were in hurry. Here are logs from telegram chat: http://imgur.com/7uUQTRXhttp://imgur.com/W2TiEZ2
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