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August 29, 2017, 10:59:05 PM
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Alright... sorry for the clickbait but it looks like some very very early early adopter is cashing out

https://blockchain.info/tx/4b60dc9cd051f4489420018bf52ead4f1f1377b0e0b4f2bc552f31b2649230ab

Most were mined beginning of 2010 which at the time bitcoin had no value.

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August 29, 2017, 11:15:35 PM
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If I understand it correctly, SegWit uses newer P2SH (pay to script hash) addresses, which start with a three just like the ones that this person is sending to.

Rather than jumping to the conclusion that this early adopter is "cashing out", we could consider that they're moving their coins to SegWit-compatible wallets - something which people with the opportunity should certainly be doing.

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August 29, 2017, 11:38:40 PM
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There is no indication that someone is "cashing out" unless you know the destination address is an exchange.

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August 29, 2017, 11:53:55 PM
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You can't assume it's a cash out by only viewing the transaction. Even if it went to a known exchange address, it doesn't guarantee that.
It could simply be a transfer between addresses he/she owns.
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August 30, 2017, 12:03:19 AM
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Alright... sorry for the clickbait but it looks like some very very early early adopter is cashing out

https://blockchain.info/tx/4b60dc9cd051f4489420018bf52ead4f1f1377b0e0b4f2bc552f31b2649230ab

Most were mined beginning of 2010 which at the time bitcoin had no value.

Too late for the sorry isn't it. Though I also think this is not a cash out but someone making his bitcoins secure. Still that is a lot of Bitcoins there. I guess there are really a lot of people we don't know of that has a massive number of Bitcoins.
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August 30, 2017, 12:15:17 AM
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Alright... sorry for the clickbait but it looks like some very very early early adopter is cashing out

https://blockchain.info/tx/4b60dc9cd051f4489420018bf52ead4f1f1377b0e0b4f2bc552f31b2649230ab

Most were mined beginning of 2010 which at the time bitcoin had no value.

I thought Satoshi really sold out his bitcoins. I've read that Satoshi mined a lot of bitcoins before leaving his creation and I thought this is the bitcoins he mined that time, ohh well, I guess Satoshi really don't care about bitcoins anymore, still  where is the coins he mined that time?  Huh

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August 30, 2017, 12:25:32 AM
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I haven't been around for anywhere near long enough to know personally, of course, but I thought I'd read that no one was even sure if Satoshi was a real person or not... does anyone actually know for certain? I've read a few theories, that's it. It seems a little unreal to think that now, with Bitcoin being a billion-dollar business, one single inventor is just sitting quietly with his fortune and not saying a word about it. Dunno, maybe I'm wrong, maybe it really is someone who just published the idea and some code ideas and then abandoned the project without looking back... until he reads the news, anyway.
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August 30, 2017, 12:36:00 AM
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Satoshi ... now more than ever, he's dead.

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August 30, 2017, 01:05:40 AM
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do you know it is Satoshi? come on dont spread such rumors.
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August 30, 2017, 01:16:07 AM
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It's possible that those addresses belong to Satoshi, but they are all from 2010, while Satoshi has started mining in Jan 2009. This means that it can also be some other early miner. Also, this transaction included only 3000 BTC, while rumors say that Satoshi owns around 1 million BTC. Also it doesn't look like dumping, the outputs might belong to the same person and it looks like that person is just testing SegWit transactions. But anyway, that's a good find, keep watching that address to see if it will get sent to some exchange.

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August 30, 2017, 01:22:20 AM
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Don't spread rumors. You must have proof that it''s satoshi. He has like worth 1,000,000 Bitcoin in his wallets. And also no one knows who is satoshi. All of his old a dress are stuck since 2010
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August 30, 2017, 01:52:25 AM
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Maybe the person wants to dump their Bitcoin Cash and are simply moving their coins to protect from a replay attack prior to cashing out the BCH.
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August 30, 2017, 01:52:28 AM
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The fee isn't even too bad, actually. hehehe

Anyways, this should be expected. We are in a huge bubble which is bound to break soon.

By the way, please do not clickbait. Thanks
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Maybe the person wants to dump their Bitcoin Cash and are simply moving their coins to protect from a replay attack prior to cashing out the BCH.

Good theory.

If I understand it correctly, SegWit uses newer P2SH (pay to script hash) addresses, which start with a three just like the ones that this person is sending to.

Rather than jumping to the conclusion that this early adopter is "cashing out", we could consider that they're moving their coins to SegWit-compatible wallets - something which people with the opportunity should certainly be doing.

Not exactly a safe amount, this early in the Segwit on mainnet game...

Saying that you don't trust someone because of their behavior is completely valid.
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August 30, 2017, 02:07:06 AM
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Started to do some digging on this transaction. All inputs were from mining during a short period of time.

Oldest block was mined 2010-01-25 14:03:24 (36297)
Newest block was mined 2010-01-31 02:42:28 (37356)
That's a 1059 block difference to mine their 60 blocks. So at the time they had approximately 18% of the network hashrate.

Check this out http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-0RMaiJObi8s/U-tDSbfK11I/AAAAAAAAAbU/Td_SxUQ7Kws/s1600/satoshisProportion2014-08-13.png

Which is a link from this article http://organofcorti.blogspot.com.au/2014/08/167-satoshis-hashrate.html

Anyone know if there were many others mining at that level early on? This can't have been more than one of a handful of people and satoshi isn't ruled out yet.

Edit: total math fail, that's only 5.6% of mining power, probably not satoshi, but likely another big early player.
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August 30, 2017, 02:26:33 AM
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Don't spread rumors. You must have proof that it''s satoshi. He has like worth 1,000,000 Bitcoin in his wallets. And also no one knows who is satoshi. All of his old a dress are stuck since 2010

This title is ridiculous. OP needs to change it to something more realistic. Satoshi has 1,000,000 Bitcoins like you say, and this guy is only selling 1,000 Bitcoins, which is only 1,000th of what Satoshi has. I don't mind clickbait, but this isn't even clickbait it is just straight up lying... right? I mean come on how many people are going to click this and waste their time. Tongue

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August 30, 2017, 02:49:29 AM
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That's a pretty large number of bitcoins and regardless who owns it, he must be having a good time right now. After holding them coins for a little over seven years, the value has risen so much and if I were in his position, I would really be thinking about cashing out some too. Maybe that is just part of what he owns or just transferring to another address but whatever the case, he is one lucky man for having that many bitcoin in holding.
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August 30, 2017, 02:57:02 AM
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This dude (whoever is selling, who is NOT Satoshi by the way) is smart, nonetheless. He sees we are in a bubble and cashing out before it bursts. And also if you had that much money it really doesn't make much a difference to make more. Tongue
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August 30, 2017, 03:08:40 AM
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Well whoever this person is, he must be so happy right now.
Things that had no value at all are worth millions of dollars and granted him the title of "millionaire".
If I understand it correctly, SegWit uses newer P2SH (pay to script hash) addresses, which start with a three just like the ones that this person is sending to.

Rather than jumping to the conclusion that this early adopter is "cashing out", we could consider that they're moving their coins to SegWit-compatible wallets - something which people with the opportunity should certainly be doing.

Well that's still actually a possibility but we'll never know since these addresses are brand new. Actually the scenario that the coins got sold is acceptable.
Maybe a new investor bought ? and just created one address and the other is the exchange address of the owner.
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August 30, 2017, 03:34:11 AM
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Maybe the person wants to dump their Bitcoin Cash and are simply moving their coins to protect from a replay attack prior to cashing out the BCH.

Thats a good theory, but let me counter that for fun. What if that is Roger Ver who is getting ready to sell some of his BTC in order to have the funds to pump his new beloved BCH?

From what Ive heard BCH needs to be pumped to stop the miners from abusing the EDA.
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