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June 23, 2011, 05:02:44 AM
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What are the reaction products?
Cost of materials?
How does it cool down?
How does it shut down?
Smallest package?

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June 23, 2011, 05:05:06 AM
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Use the same technology in Submarines and Battleships...., you could have the power generated in the ocean, if there is a risk, move the vessel somewhere else and sink it.

Good luck getting the military to give up this technology and the propaganda that will come from pre-existing energy sources.

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June 23, 2011, 05:21:06 AM
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Use the same technology in Submarines and Battleships...., you could have the power generated in the ocean, if there is a risk, move the vessel somewhere else and sink it.

Good luck getting the military to give up this technology and the propaganda that will come from pre-existing energy sources.

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So how's it work?

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June 23, 2011, 05:30:30 AM
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Is this a real question? Do you want someone to explain how a nuclear reactor works? Or you want a costing table?

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June 23, 2011, 05:38:26 AM
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Is this a real question? Do you want someone to explain how a nuclear reactor works? Or you want a costing table?

Both. I want to be able to understand the possibilities. I want to be able to have a frame of mind based on the actual numbers.

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June 23, 2011, 05:40:57 AM
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And you can't be bothered looking it yourself ?   Tongue

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June 23, 2011, 05:44:00 AM
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Okay lets assume this will be done illegally. No approval from governments.

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June 23, 2011, 05:57:36 AM
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I like the submarine idea. So we need the materials to create the reactor. I know you need a material capable of neutron capture and the walls would need to be similar. The hardest part will be getting the power into Societies. Because it is illegal this is going to make it significantly more difficult.

You could consider wireless power transmission: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/WiTricity

You could create robots that will mine under-neath the seabed, I guess like worms and lay cables, you could use the same technology that they use to do deep-sea drilling. Have a cable terminating in a country and I think you could assume that infrastructure will be built around the terminal end, given that the electricity will be significantly cheaper. Have the other end of the cable terminate somewhere out at sea. Use stealth technology to design a ship/submarine that can interface with the seabed terminal. Then use the bitcoin system accept payments. Voila!


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June 23, 2011, 06:14:55 AM
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And you can't be bothered looking it yourself ?   Tongue

I don't know where to begin.

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June 23, 2011, 06:27:12 AM
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You know what a nuclear reaction is? In terms of neutrons, radiation decay and the nucleus.

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June 23, 2011, 08:01:20 AM
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You know what a nuclear reaction is? In terms of neutrons, radiation decay and the nucleus.

Yes. Rough idea. Basically you put somewhat stable atoms into less stable configurations. At this point they split in various proportions. I understand the physics, I'm just at a loss as far as the catalog of isotopes and stages go.

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June 23, 2011, 10:42:50 AM
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Forget nuclear power.


In 50 years we will have a space elevator which will trow solar panels in the space, to have all the juicy energy you need.
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June 23, 2011, 12:15:23 PM
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Forget nuclear power.


In 50 years we will have a space elevator which will trow solar panels in the space, to have all the juicy energy you need.

If we forget nuclear power, the only ones to have it will be war mongers. You cannot tame a problem by ignoring it.

50 years... Space elevator... Navel gazers...

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June 23, 2011, 12:28:28 PM
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Here's a post I did a while ago about thorium reactors: http://agnoistrology.com/blog/2010/08/04/thorium-is-the-new-mjolnir/

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June 23, 2011, 12:46:58 PM
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Forget nuclear power.


In 50 years we will have a space elevator which will trow solar panels in the space, to have all the juicy energy you need.

Without nukes, we don't have the spare energy to build a space elevator, technology aside.  A launch loop is going to happen first, and functionally requires nukes.

"The powers of financial capitalism had another far-reaching aim, nothing less than to create a world system of financial control in private hands able to dominate the political system of each country and the economy of the world as a whole. This system was to be controlled in a feudalist fashion by the central banks of the world acting in concert, by secret agreements arrived at in frequent meetings and conferences. The apex of the systems was to be the Bank for International Settlements in Basel, Switzerland, a private bank owned and controlled by the world's central banks which were themselves private corporations. Each central bank...sought to dominate its government by its ability to control Treasury loans, to manipulate foreign exchanges, to influence the level of economic activity in the country, and to influence cooperative politicians by subsequent economic rewards in the business world."

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June 23, 2011, 01:42:34 PM
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Energy_amplifier

"The powers of financial capitalism had another far-reaching aim, nothing less than to create a world system of financial control in private hands able to dominate the political system of each country and the economy of the world as a whole. This system was to be controlled in a feudalist fashion by the central banks of the world acting in concert, by secret agreements arrived at in frequent meetings and conferences. The apex of the systems was to be the Bank for International Settlements in Basel, Switzerland, a private bank owned and controlled by the world's central banks which were themselves private corporations. Each central bank...sought to dominate its government by its ability to control Treasury loans, to manipulate foreign exchanges, to influence the level of economic activity in the country, and to influence cooperative politicians by subsequent economic rewards in the business world."

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June 23, 2011, 01:43:16 PM
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Launch_loop

"The powers of financial capitalism had another far-reaching aim, nothing less than to create a world system of financial control in private hands able to dominate the political system of each country and the economy of the world as a whole. This system was to be controlled in a feudalist fashion by the central banks of the world acting in concert, by secret agreements arrived at in frequent meetings and conferences. The apex of the systems was to be the Bank for International Settlements in Basel, Switzerland, a private bank owned and controlled by the world's central banks which were themselves private corporations. Each central bank...sought to dominate its government by its ability to control Treasury loans, to manipulate foreign exchanges, to influence the level of economic activity in the country, and to influence cooperative politicians by subsequent economic rewards in the business world."

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June 23, 2011, 05:10:04 PM
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Here's a post I did a while ago about thorium reactors: http://agnoistrology.com/blog/2010/08/04/thorium-is-the-new-mjolnir/

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June 23, 2011, 09:10:58 PM
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so thorium reactors are open source and we can all run them on our home machines?  Awesome!

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June 23, 2011, 10:29:24 PM
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so thorium reactors are open source and we can all run them on our home machines?  Awesome!

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