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In general, the 1080 isn't too popular. For the price and power use, there are better options. However, in some cases, the lower popularity does mean you'll be able to get them more easily, or at a less inflated price. (At my local Best Buy, the 1080s were the only ones consistently in stock on the shelves.)
1060s, 1070s, and 1080tis are pretty good. The important thing to consider here is rig density.
With some fixed number of slots, you can make better use of them with 1080ti cards rather than 1060s. However, the 1080ti usually does not offer the same individual price/performance ratio that you can get with 1060s. For example, I can get 3GB 1060s for around $200-$210 after hunting around. A 1080ti would cost me at least $700, and it does not mine at triple the rates of 3GB 1060s on any algorithm I'm interested in. (For example, I can get about 300 H/s mining Zcash with each 1060. I haven't seen many reported hashrates for a 1080ti that exceed 750-800, at best.)
With 1060s, you're getting a smaller overall rig hashrate for the motherboard/CPU/ram/etc. that you got to support the GPUs, so that's what can start to mess with the overall price/performance ratio when compared to 1080ti cards.
Another thing to consider is resale value. A 1080ti will most likely retain its usefulness for longer than 1060s, assuming you maintain them just as well.
You are right on card performances, but for the rig building cost, you should make it like: 1 rig of 6 cards 1080Ti need only 2 PSU 850W + 1 CPU +1 MB + 1 RAM..... while 3 rig of 6 cards 1060 need 3 PSU 850W + 3 CPU, 3 MB + 3 RAM... The peripherals' price is not cheap For me, 1080 Ti is a good deal but I'm just started with a small budget, so I'm going with 1070. I'd say you're definitely skimping on the PSUs there, especially for 24/7 operation, and even after messing with clock & power settings. I can confirm 6 1080 Ti with 2 850W PSUs have no problem. for a 6x 1080ti build, assuming undervolted, what is total system wattage?
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October 05, 2017, 08:28:23 PM |
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for a 6x 1080ti build, assuming undervolted, what is total system wattage?
I was watching a video, I believe BBT and he had a 6x 1060 GB setup only drawing 500 watts for the entire rig. I am currently modeling my build after that one, but so far I only have 2 cards out of the 6 it will eventually have. I think it is a pretty close estimate as I am just pushing 200 watts right now with 2 cards and the rest of the system. Figuring 50 W for the system at idle, that is only about 75 watts per card, so 75 W x 6 + 50 is 500 watts right on. To get this the power limit setting in afterburner needs to be set to 60% and I also under-clock my core by -100 since it has little effect on mining performance (especially with Ethereum). I have tried +100 and +150 as well, but I need to adjust the power limit to run the core higher and the core clocks really seems to not effect the hash rate at all. The memory clock does though and I usually run that at +600 to +700.
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October 05, 2017, 09:38:09 PM |
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I am going with a 6x1070 Zotac Mini rig which is consuming all together around 750 W after pretty much fiddling with the undervolting to find the sweet spot. AMD is much better for ETH, but ETH will be dead for mining next year
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October 05, 2017, 09:41:16 PM |
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Now these cards are often in mining and they become cheap, especially nvidia 1050ti. Of course latest modelbis always better but it has very high price. For example you can get new nvidia 1050ti for 150$ but for 1080ti you need nearly 750$, difference is 600$ and with that 600$ you can buy 4 additional 1050ti. Of course 1080ti will pass more time and will be more useful but I wouldn't buy it now.
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October 06, 2017, 01:41:17 AM |
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I would like to get the 1080ti but I would then need to also upgrade my PSU which is a cost I probably cannot afford so I think im going to go for the 1070 because I can purchase it sooner and just plug it in and go. I am going to check out the AMD side like someone suggested first though.
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October 06, 2017, 02:21:24 AM |
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In general, the 1080 isn't too popular. For the price and power use, there are better options. However, in some cases, the lower popularity does mean you'll be able to get them more easily, or at a less inflated price. (At my local Best Buy, the 1080s were the only ones consistently in stock on the shelves.)
1060s, 1070s, and 1080tis are pretty good. The important thing to consider here is rig density.
With some fixed number of slots, you can make better use of them with 1080ti cards rather than 1060s. However, the 1080ti usually does not offer the same individual price/performance ratio that you can get with 1060s. For example, I can get 3GB 1060s for around $200-$210 after hunting around. A 1080ti would cost me at least $700, and it does not mine at triple the rates of 3GB 1060s on any algorithm I'm interested in. (For example, I can get about 300 H/s mining Zcash with each 1060. I haven't seen many reported hashrates for a 1080ti that exceed 750-800, at best.)
With 1060s, you're getting a smaller overall rig hashrate for the motherboard/CPU/ram/etc. that you got to support the GPUs, so that's what can start to mess with the overall price/performance ratio when compared to 1080ti cards.
Another thing to consider is resale value. A 1080ti will most likely retain its usefulness for longer than 1060s, assuming you maintain them just as well.
You are right on card performances, but for the rig building cost, you should make it like: 1 rig of 6 cards 1080Ti need only 2 PSU 850W + 1 CPU +1 MB + 1 RAM..... while 3 rig of 6 cards 1060 need 3 PSU 850W + 3 CPU, 3 MB + 3 RAM... The peripherals' price is not cheap For me, 1080 Ti is a good deal but I'm just started with a small budget, so I'm going with 1070. I'd say you're definitely skimping on the PSUs there, especially for 24/7 operation, and even after messing with clock & power settings. I can confirm 6 1080 Ti with 2 850W PSUs have no problem. for a 6x 1080ti build, assuming undervolted, what is total system wattage? about 1000 -1100 watts at 60% tdp depends on the tdp some cards are 275 tdp not 250
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October 07, 2017, 08:29:24 PM |
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I would like to get the 1080ti but I would then need to also upgrade my PSU which is a cost I probably cannot afford so I think im going to go for the 1070 because I can purchase it sooner and just plug it in and go. I am going to check out the AMD side like someone suggested first though.
I have a 1080ti rig and from my experience so far my 1070 rigs are better value for the money.
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October 08, 2017, 05:23:52 PM |
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With the 1070 finally getting back under $400 (Newegg pricing, saw 2 of them today at $399) it's taking back it's place as arguably the best NVidia mining choice for most algos NVidia is good at.
1080ti pricing seems to have been going UP a bit lately - I can't remember the last under $700 listing on Newegg for one, been a month or so I think.
1080 ti is still better from a "rig density" point of view, though, and any of the 1070/1080/1080ti options are close on both hash/$ and hash/watt when you figure them at the TOTAL SYSTEM COST AND POWER CONSUMPTION level.
Gonna be interesting to see where the "1070 ti" specs end up at, and pricing on it, and where it falls in the efficiency and hash/$ spectrum - presuming it DOES actually happen.
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December 01, 2017, 03:30:45 PM |
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Hello friends. Can someone answer me? How many hashrates and soles gives 1070TI ? Sorry if this was already, I have not found.
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December 01, 2017, 04:02:44 PM |
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I vote 1080s.
They are becoming reasonably priced if you can find a deal. And there's plenty of coins using Equihash / Neoscrypt you can find to turn a profit.
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December 01, 2017, 04:25:35 PM |
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for me, 1080TI, I know.... it's an expensive card but I prefer to manage the minimum number of rigs possible, my time it's a value too .... . What u think about that?.
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December 01, 2017, 04:53:25 PM |
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for me, 1080TI, I know.... it's an expensive card but I prefer to manage the minimum number of rigs possible, my time it's a value too .... . What u think about that?.
1080ti cards are really good in terms of performance. With them, you can work longer and earn a crypto currency, but in the ratio of prices and hash rate they lose
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December 01, 2017, 05:43:08 PM |
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Hello friends. Can someone answer me? How many hashrates and soles gives 1070TI ? Sorry if this was already, I have not found.
with undervolting to make electricity reasonable 1050 - idk 1060 - eth 22-24, zcash 280ish, 90 watts 1070 - eth 30, zcash 450, 110 watts 1070ti-eth 30, zcash 500, 110 watts 1080 - people mine with these? 1080ti-eth idk, zcash 750, 180-200 watts
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December 01, 2017, 06:09:02 PM |
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Hello friends. Can someone answer me? How many hashrates and soles gives 1070TI ? Sorry if this was already, I have not found.
with undervolting to make electricity reasonable 1050 - idk 1060 - eth 22-24, zcash 280ish, 90 watts 1070 - eth 30, zcash 450, 110 watts 1070ti-eth 30, zcash 500, 110 watts 1080 - people mine with these? 1080ti-eth idk, zcash 750, 180-200 watts I've GTX 1080. I mine zec/zencash and have approximately 530-550 Sol/s. 165W 85%tdp. It could be better compared for gtx 1070. Hovewer on other algorithms I see better improvements. It is not GPU with best efficiency/power usage indicator, but does its job well.
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Hello friends. Can someone answer me? How many hashrates and soles gives 1070TI ? Sorry if this was already, I have not found.
with undervolting to make electricity reasonable 1050 - idk 1060 - eth 22-24, zcash 280ish, 90 watts 1070 - eth 30, zcash 450, 110 watts 1070ti-eth 30, zcash 500, 110 watts 1080 - people mine with these? 1080ti-eth idk, zcash 750, 180-200 watts Thank you very much for the information. You helped me a lot. I think my choice will be 1070. The fastest return the investments
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December 02, 2017, 04:43:41 PM |
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I have the 1050 TI / 1060 3 & 6 gb / 1070 / 1080 / 1080 ti
Each have their own set backs and advantages, I would recommend 1070 +.
The power draw of the High end 10xx series is pretty impressive hash/watt.
1060 6gb are pretty ideal for initial price / hash , given you get them at a good price, and it has decent memory.
Also, getting the 1070 - 1080 tis VS 1050ti/1060 saves A LOT on space / heat.
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December 02, 2017, 06:18:36 PM |
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My experience is the following:
For ETH, the GTX 1060 3GB seems to be the best. I get 24MH/S for 75-80W (for around 200$) while with a 1070 I get 32MH/S for 90W (for around 400$). Now if you want to mine ZEC for example, the result will be different, a 1080TI would probably be a better option.
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December 02, 2017, 06:50:37 PM |
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My experience is the following:
For ETH, the GTX 1060 3GB seems to be the best. I get 24MH/S for 75-80W (for around 200$) while with a 1070 I get 32MH/S for 90W (for around 400$). Now if you want to mine ZEC for example, the result will be different, a 1080TI would probably be a better option.
You seems foolish buddy. GTX 1070 8GB card can be produce the 32 MH so you will be able to more income that card alone but if can get the electricity more cheaper in the sense we can make more money with that bro. Performance wise alone 1080 8GB card is better than 1070. You can check in any site you will find the information states 1070i is the best card to mine.
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December 02, 2017, 06:52:49 PM |
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OK, now I have installed / changed my gtx 1070 to gtx 1070ti just paid like 50$ for the change and I can say that really 1070ti good choice if you can buy it around $450-470 - si it will be like 5%-7% more expensive over gtx1070 - but it massive 15-18% faster then gtx1070. so you have 10% boost for free, for it is a good value! can recommend
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