Scammers claiming Hacked Accounts : Chargeback Scenario (Bitcointalk and Paypal)

[pinkman12345]

These days a particular trend is Going on.

Head to digital and Goods section, Make an offer to sell Legendary accounts at cheaper price, Probability is that you will end up it selling, after the buyer changes everything wait for some days and then come to Meta section and opens a thread for Account stolen and get the account recovered, isn't it a chargeback??

So whats the difference between Bitcointalk and Paypal , Both does the same.

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[actmyname]

These days a particular trend is Going on.

Head to digital and Goods section, Make an offer to sell Legendary accounts at cheaper price, Probability is that you will end up it selling, after the buyer changes everything wait for some days and then come to Meta section and opens a thread for Account stolen and get the account recovered, isn't it a chargeback??

So whats the difference between Bitcointalk and Paypal , Both does the same.

People buying accounts took the risk in handling accounts and thus should take care when regarding these types of transactions (especially when accounts can and will be recovered externally). I do not condone account trades and so this is almost like twisted justice in a sense (though scams are very bad).

How does one stop this? Stop account trading. Easy.

[minifrij]

theymos and the forum discourage account trading, and therefore may do little to try and police it properly.

In most cases, the original owner of the account is the legitimate owner forever as far as forum administration is concerned. (Though if we happen to come across some pretty clear evidence that an account is sold by its owner, we're not going to intentionally help the original owner scam the account back. But neither are we going to put much effort into preventing this.)

As actmyname said, the best way to avoid this is not to trade accounts. It's a scummy, untrustworthy field anyway.

[sonic22]

Can someone enlighten me as for why those forum tags are considered so important that people are ready to pay for it? After all it only shows that person have been around for a while, it doesn't make him guru or something.

[actmyname]

Can someone enlighten me as for why those forum tags are considered so important that people are ready to pay for it? After all it only shows that person have been around for a while, it doesn't make him guru or something.

If by tags you mean rank [it's contextually implied] then the main reason that users use it is in fact for reputation. Signature campaigns pay more to higher-rank members not only because of reputation but also because their signature can be customized far more than, say a Jr. Member's signature (which is only limited to 150 characters including bbcode). These accounts could potentially be used to scam given that newbies are more likely to trust a Legendary or Hero Member with currency exchanges or goods than a lesser rank. It's just how it is.

[sonic22]

Can someone enlighten me as for why those forum tags are considered so important that people are ready to pay for it? After all it only shows that person have been around for a while, it doesn't make him guru or something.

If by tags you mean rank [it's contextually implied] then the main reason that users use it is in fact for reputation. Signature campaigns pay more to higher-rank members not only because of reputation but also because their signature can be customized far more than, say a Jr. Member's signature (which is only limited to 150 characters including bbcode). These accounts could potentially be used to scam given that newbies are more likely to trust a Legendary or Hero Member with currency exchanges or goods than a lesser rank. It's just how it is.

Thanks for explanation. While I'm new here I communicate of message boards and forums since Fidonet times (ancient lol) and this rank thing actually made me smile. Only forums that I find useful in terms of user reputation are those where users themselves rank people. Apart from time spent automatic rank systems don't actually tell anything about any person.

[Vod]

These days a particular trend is Going on.

Head to digital and Goods section, Make an offer to sell Legendary accounts at cheaper price, Probability is that you will end up it selling, after the buyer changes everything wait for some days and then come to Meta section and opens a thread for Account stolen and get the account recovered, isn't it a chargeback??

So whats the difference between Bitcointalk and Paypal , Both does the same.

I would suggest if you want to buy a legendary account that you have the account owner sign a message saying he/she is selling it.

Then, when he/she opens the scam accusation, present the signed message.

Of course, this won't prevent you from being tagged by those DT members who view account sales as untrustworthy.