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May 24, 2013, 03:05:04 PM
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Introduced in this thread and this thread.

I probably should have given it a little more time, but decided to take a gamble since I hadn't seen one of these sites offer $50 MPs before.  Sent to the address given with this transaction.  The transaction before that to the same address is by user bithanz, who purchased hours before me.

Considering it's the very day the site "opened" and the site simply pockets the BTC, never confirms receiving it, doesn't respond to email asking what's up, and most importantly, doesn't send the MP, it looks like this one is a scam right out of the gate.
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May 24, 2013, 03:08:19 PM
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I probably should have checked the shady whois information first.


Checking server [whois.crsnic.net]

Checking server [whois.register.com]
Results:

The data in Register.com's WHOIS database is provided to you by
Register.com for information purposes only, that is, to assist you in
obtaining information about or related to a domain name registration
record. Register.com makes this information available "as is," and
does not guarantee its accuracy. By submitting a WHOIS query, you
agree that you will use this data only for lawful purposes and that,
under no circumstances will you use this data to: (1) allow, enable,
or otherwise support the transmission of mass unsolicited, commercial
advertising or solicitations via direct mail, electronic mail, or by
telephone; or (2) enable high volume, automated, electronic processes
that apply to Register.com (or its systems). The compilation,
repackaging, dissemination or other use of this data is expressly
prohibited without the prior written consent of Register.com.
Register.com reserves the right to modify these terms at any time.
By submitting this query, you agree to abide by these terms.


Registrant:
MP For Bitcoins
John Doe
123 Main St
Orlando, FL 32771
US
Phone: +1.4071234567
Email: admin@grnlight.net



Registrar Name....: Register.com
Registrar Whois...: whois.register.com
Registrar Homepage: www.register.com

Domain Name: moneypakforbitcoins.com
Created on..............: 2013-05-21
Expires on..............: 2014-05-21

Administrative Contact:
MP For Bitcoins
John Doe
123 Main St
Orlando, FL 32771
US
Phone: +1.4071234567
Email: admin@grnlight.net


Technical Contact:
Registercom
Domain Registrar
12808 Gran Bay Pkwy
West Jacksonville, FL 32258
US
Phone: +1.9027492701
Email: domainregistrar@register.com


DNS Servers:
ns1.x10hosting.com
ns2.x10hosting.com



Visit AboutUs.org for more information about moneypakforbitcoins.com

AboutUs: moneypakforbitcoins.com

Register your domain name at http://www.register.com
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May 24, 2013, 03:26:54 PM
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This is what you need:

http://grnlight.net/index.php/portfolio

Email him.
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May 24, 2013, 05:02:45 PM
Last edit: May 24, 2013, 05:50:03 PM by Viceroy
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I hope this guy is not a scammer.

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(changed emphasis)
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May 24, 2013, 06:57:59 PM
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How about you phone him, send him a letter or just turn up like the good ol' days Wink

Always up for helping.

GrnLight
      Marc Hoover
      810 Osteen Cemetery Rd
      Deltona, FL 32738
      US
      Phone: +1.4073238852
      Email: admin@grnlight.co



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May 24, 2013, 07:00:31 PM
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3 minutes, constant ringing... feels like the old days before vm...

(I have free air time)....
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May 24, 2013, 07:01:18 PM
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went to re-order signal at 3 minutes, trying again...
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May 24, 2013, 07:07:06 PM
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went to re-order after three minutes, trying again...
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May 24, 2013, 07:10:55 PM
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went to re-order again after three minutes, redialing...
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May 24, 2013, 07:12:49 PM
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Lives in a CHEAP house, http://www.zillow.com/homedetails/810-Osteen-Cemetery-Rd-Deltona-FL-32738/48030371_zpid/
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May 24, 2013, 07:13:10 PM
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https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=120615

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=111409

Anyone else notice the these two people have roughly the same Last Active time?

They were both online a few min ago.

I recon he used a dummy account maybe to transfer his own BTC as a trap for anyone else.

He's Online atm. Has he even contacted you about this?

*edit* just seen I put the same address, corrected now.


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May 24, 2013, 07:13:42 PM
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announcement 4 dash switch 85

verizon could not connect

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May 24, 2013, 07:14:23 PM
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Looks like the kind of house that might have a few girls hidden in the basement. Wink We might get a reward Cheesy

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May 24, 2013, 07:16:08 PM
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https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=111409

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=111409

Anyone else notice the these two people have roughly the same Last Active time?

They were both online a few min ago.

I recon he used a dummy account maybe to transfer his own BTC as a trap for anyone else.

He's Online atm. Has he even contacted you about this?



I do see that the posters in that thread are mostly noobs.  The accused is a noob.  I will now take the time to point out to any and all that sending first to a noob is a stupid thing to do.  Even if that noob has a website.  I am not saying that to cast aspersions on anyone, I'm certain none of you meant any harm but for the sake of the community PLEASE DO NOT SEND FIRST to a noob under ANY circumstances.

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May 24, 2013, 07:21:11 PM
Last edit: May 24, 2013, 07:36:23 PM by Viceroy
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This site, suspected to be the same as the accused, has disturbing anti authority sentiment and poor use of English.

To be fair, without admin help we cannot even connect that this "Marc" is the accused.  I do not want to spread any more FUD.






Phone not failing on re-order, now failing with message:
Announcement 4 dash switch 8 5
(done).
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May 24, 2013, 07:38:49 PM
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Nope, I take that back...
http://grnlight.net/index.php/news-site-information/29-donations-desperately-needed


Page reads:

DONATIONS DESPERATELY NEEDED.
 User Rating:  / 0
PoorBest
Category: News & Site Information
Published Date
Written by wildboy211

We have until the end of the month of March to pay the bills, im trying my hardest to come up with the most useful programming articles for anyone and everyone for free. But just because i give them away for free, doesnt mean it doesnt cost me anything.

Im asking anyone that has some spare bitcoin to donate it, and im willing to do this "Kickstarter" style, with benefits. The links use Mt.Gox, which is the largest bitcoin payment processor. I may add other links for other forms of payment later.

Other Payment Methods:
Bitcoin: 1CcfS9atFAReCaGeYvEwmuV1Ft6wvCGgPm
Dwolla: 812-576-3590
Dwolla Hubpage: https://www.dwolla.com/hub/812-576-3590
Liberty Reserve: U0102445
Flexcoin: 1LGV7XDpFrBEAas5oo8Fhik8x3ZXJCh2zK
Donate via secure credit card form: https://spb.io/gEnE8QrMUP
Amazon Payments:


The site also has several articles about jquery which is used to program websites, like the accused appears to have done.
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May 24, 2013, 07:44:54 PM
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Nope, I take that back...
http://grnlight.net/index.php/news-site-information/29-donations-desperately-needed


Page reads:

DONATIONS DESPERATELY NEEDED.
 User Rating:  / 0
PoorBest
Category: News & Site Information
Published Date
Written by wildboy211

We have until the end of the month of March to pay the bills, im trying my hardest to come up with the most useful programming articles for anyone and everyone for free. But just because i give them away for free, doesnt mean it doesnt cost me anything.

Im asking anyone that has some spare bitcoin to donate it, and im willing to do this "Kickstarter" style, with benefits. The links use Mt.Gox, which is the largest bitcoin payment processor. I may add other links for other forms of payment later.

Other Payment Methods:
Bitcoin: 1CcfS9atFAReCaGeYvEwmuV1Ft6wvCGgPm
Dwolla: 812-576-3590
Dwolla Hubpage: https://www.dwolla.com/hub/812-576-3590
Liberty Reserve: U0102445
Flexcoin: 1LGV7XDpFrBEAas5oo8Fhik8x3ZXJCh2zK
Donate via secure credit card form: https://spb.io/gEnE8QrMUP
Amazon Payments:


The site also has several articles about jquery which is used to program websites, like the accused appears to have done.

Good spot, as far as I can see it is him or at least the same person who has set both sites up, he's used the same nameservers on both sites I have linked him too, which I suspect is a shared hosting account where you can simply use shared hosting by registering a domain and pointing the nameservers at ns1.x10hosting.com & ns1.x10hosting.com (looks like that is a free something or other).


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May 24, 2013, 07:53:12 PM
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Instructions from his website hosting company are to email:  abuse@secureserver.net

And please given them all the details about how this website (MoneyPakForBitcoins.Com) on their network (Wild West Domains) stole your money.  Have them refer to this thread for additional information.

Please post that you emailed and post the response here for all.

(I did not lose money and so I cannot rightfully complain).





Did you miss the s off moneypakforbitcoin.com ? as that goes to Wild Wild West for me.
moneypakforbitcoins.com is registered to http://www.register.com

http://whois.net/whois/moneypakforbitcoin.com
http://whois.net/whois/moneypakforbitcoins.com

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May 24, 2013, 08:04:05 PM
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yep.
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May 24, 2013, 08:07:31 PM
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yep.

Spun me out for a min then. Thought we had a new site.

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