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September 10, 2017, 08:29:09 AM
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Yes, as soon as i saw that it was for sale, i've contacted the seller and bought it.
Quoted and tagged.

Nothing to protect, PM was sent from a newly registered account.
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Tagged the throwaway account (not that this will accomplish anything).

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September 10, 2017, 12:24:29 PM
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Rating removed, thx KWH for letting me know.
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September 10, 2017, 12:28:48 PM
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Rating removed, thx KWH for letting me know.

Thanks for your help.

When the subject of buying BTC with Paypal comes up, I often remember this: 

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September 10, 2017, 12:51:53 PM
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Last month, i saw that account CoinLearn is for sale! Here is the link to that thread, but unfortunatelly, the seller deleted it:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2056211.0
Could u please point out to the seller's profile on BitcoinTalk?

Could u please point out to the escrow profile on BitcoinTalk?

Someone believes that just by placing Satoshi's white paper on the stolen website, makes him provable owner of that site.
OP has claimed that he has sent a signed message from an old address to the admins. So, whether the website is stolen or not is immaterial here. Whoever can provide a signed message from an older address is the original owner.
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September 10, 2017, 01:06:41 PM
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Could u please point out to the seller's profile on BitcoinTalk?
Probably a throwaway account.

Could u please point out to the escrow profile on BitcoinTalk?
I could take an educated guess based on the escrows that are willing to deal with such shady transactions. Roll Eyes

Whoever can provide a signed message from an older address is the original owner.
And? The owner could still have sold it, and recovering it this way would then be a scam.

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September 10, 2017, 05:26:02 PM
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Could u please point out to the seller's profile on BitcoinTalk?
Probably a throwaway account.

Could u please point out to the escrow profile on BitcoinTalk?
I could take an educated guess based on the escrows that are willing to deal with such shady transactions. Roll Eyes

Whoever can provide a signed message from an older address is the original owner.
And? The owner could still have sold it, and recovering it this way would then be a scam.

That is correct. It was throwaway account, that's why i asked to pay through escrow. After that, seller agreed to send me password in advance. As soon as i got it, i did pay him. Proof is provided above.

As far, as i'm aware, it is allowed to sell and buy accounts on this forum. Please correct me if i'm wrong.

Spot on! It looks like the same person who sold it, now trying to get it back this way.
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September 10, 2017, 05:27:15 PM
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And btw, if i would buy this account to scam someone, why didn't i do it in more than 30 days? Don't you think i had plenty of time to do that? But i didn't. I didn't even placed any signature to earn. Think about it.
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September 10, 2017, 05:50:49 PM
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That is correct. It was throwaway account, that's why i asked to pay through escrow. After that, seller agreed to send me password in advance. As soon as i got it, i did pay him. Proof is provided above.
What is stopping u from revealing the seller?

As far, as i'm aware, it is allowed to sell and buy accounts on this forum. Please correct me if i'm wrong.
What is stopping u from revealing the escrow identity?

Spot on! It looks like the same person who sold it, now trying to get it back this way.
If u have really bought it from the real owner, u must have a signed message from the owner saying that he is selling it to u on a given date. As long as, u can not present such a message, u r no way a legitimate owner of the account. Instead, it is possible that u r the thief, who created another identity to dummy a trade and now claiming as if u have bought.

And btw, if i would buy this account to scam someone, why didn't i do it in more than 30 days? Don't you think i had plenty of time to do that? But i didn't. I didn't even placed any signature to earn. Think about it.
Signed message is everything. So, far only OP has it and u do not.

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September 10, 2017, 07:46:55 PM
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That is correct. It was throwaway account, that's why i asked to pay through escrow. After that, seller agreed to send me password in advance. As soon as i got it, i did pay him. Proof is provided above.
What is stopping u from revealing the seller?

As far, as i'm aware, it is allowed to sell and buy accounts on this forum. Please correct me if i'm wrong.
What is stopping u from revealing the escrow identity?

Spot on! It looks like the same person who sold it, now trying to get it back this way.
If u have really bought it from the real owner, u must have a signed message from the owner saying that he is selling it to u on a given date. As long as, u can not present such a message, u r no way a legitimate owner of the account. Instead, it is possible that u r the thief, who created another identity to dummy a trade and now claiming as if u have bought.

And btw, if i would buy this account to scam someone, why didn't i do it in more than 30 days? Don't you think i had plenty of time to do that? But i didn't. I didn't even placed any signature to earn. Think about it.
Signed message is everything. So, far only OP has it and u do not.

I don't remember that username of seller account. If you read through the links provided, and some of my posts above, you'll see what seller sent me account pass without escrow. And as i got it, i paid him directly.

If i would be a thief, i would use this account for scaming people long time ago and would not talk to you here. Does it make any cense?

So far, OP has nothing to show. Lets see what he sent to admins and moderators. If he can prove that this account belong to him, he will get it back.
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September 10, 2017, 08:09:25 PM
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That is correct. It was throwaway account, that's why i asked to pay through escrow. After that, seller agreed to send me password in advance. As soon as i got it, i did pay him. Proof is provided above.
Damn, my sassumption didn't quite hit this time.

As far, as i'm aware, it is allowed to sell and buy accounts on this forum. Please correct me if i'm wrong.
Unfortunately there is no rule against it, only a bullshit excuse.

If i would be a thief, i would use this account for scaming people long time ago and would not talk to you here. Does it make any cense?
Irrelevant. You knowingly purchased an account with green trust, which is not yours (the trust nor the account), thus you can't be trusted.

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September 10, 2017, 08:16:17 PM
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That is correct. It was throwaway account, that's why i asked to pay through escrow. After that, seller agreed to send me password in advance. As soon as i got it, i did pay him. Proof is provided above.
Damn, my sassumption didn't quite hit this time.

As far, as i'm aware, it is allowed to sell and buy accounts on this forum. Please correct me if i'm wrong.
Unfortunately there is no rule against it, only a bullshit excuse.

If i would be a thief, i would use this account for scaming people long time ago and would not talk to you here. Does it make any cense?
Irrelevant. You knowingly purchased an account with green trust, which is not yours (the trust nor the account), thus you can't be trusted.

I don't need that trust, as i'm not selling or buying anything )
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September 10, 2017, 08:24:02 PM
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I don't need that trust, as i'm not selling or buying anything )
Then you're fine with your current rating either way.

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September 12, 2017, 07:55:43 PM
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Still waiting for the admins to act.
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Still waiting for the admins to act.
Keep waiting. Its a wild west. No one will act.

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September 20, 2017, 04:59:45 PM
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And btw, if i would buy this account to scam someone, why didn't i do it in more than 30 days? Don't you think i had plenty of time to do that? But i didn't. I didn't even placed any signature to earn. Think about it.

Nonsense, and the account is useless though so good luck with that. Anyone who bought an account with green trust has an intention to use it in something shady, admit it or not, and you are no exception. Even though you don't join any campaigns (which most bought accounts are used for), you still know that the account is associated in a service you can use to potentially get something 'more' than what petty campaigns offer.

Red tagged 'til owner recovers the account.

Still waiting for the admins to act.

Try bumping some other mod to push the request to the admins. Waiting would be a dire effort.

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Even after providing all the required proofs with signed message, no action from the admins is disappointing.
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Today, once again, I sent the year old signed message to theymos. Hoping for recovery.
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January 11, 2019, 07:15:53 PM
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I re-applied according to the new recovery process through email. In response, I received the following mail.

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Hello,

Thank you for your email. The signed message was successfully verified.
Please note that the email address cannot be restored to a different one other than the original used to register the account. In the situation where that email address was used to create a different account, you will need to change it on the second account as one email address cannot be linked with more than one acount.

Furthermore, we will need you to send us an email from that original email address where you wil also receive further instructions.
Best regards,
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But, I do not remember the original email ID with which my account was registered 5 years ago. Though, I have provided signed message from an address, that was used within one month of account registration.

What am I supposed to do?
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January 20, 2019, 12:02:07 PM
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My final hope to recover my 5 years old established account is over. I have received the following mail from BitcoinTalk team... Cry

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Thank you for your email.

After checking the entire history related to this account and based on the current investigation, there is simply not enough info to determine the true owner as the account appears to have been sold at some point possibly alongisde the private key for the address used to sign the message. Also, there's no guarantee that the website you mentioned was not hacked as well, therefore, it will not be used as a valid point in the recovery process.

Taking these matters into consideration, our final decision is that the account will be locked and you can continue using the alternative one you created.

Best regards,

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