[ANN][SEM] Semux - Official Thread

[benhnghenghiep]

POOLS!

I've been asked a couple of times about Pools and where to vote to get paid.

The answer is.... there is no direct answer because it's changing all the time.

Someone with 8000 votes asked, and the answer is: in this case the Best 'fee' doesn't equate to most profitable.

Example....
8000 votes into pool - '100_tokenpar_com' (which is 0% fee) will get you about 6 SEM per day (8000/12100090).
Putting that 8000 into pool - 'Melvin' (which is 15% fee) will get you about  10.2 SEM  (8000/5950090)-15%

So, even though Melvin is a 15% fee, you obviously end up with over 50% more SEM daily voting in 'Melvin'.

Pool 'Kolten' is a 10% fee.  This is where things get a little more difficult, because, as long as they stay at the relative position (both around 50), it's better to vote into pool 'Kolten'; however, this changes quickly.
- Basically, most people look for the smallest fee and vote in it not realizing as those small fee pools move up the list, your votes count for less of a percentage in the pool.  So, within days, voting for 'Kolten' doesn't equate to a better rate than 'Melvin'

10% of 100 = 100% of 10

My suggestion (today) is to put your votes into 'Melvin' as you're going to make more over time than 'Kolten'
And, it's better to vote for both of those than a 0% pool like '100_tokenpar_com'.

Also Note....
There are hidden pools.  Basically validators that are setup to be private pools. They are setup to be from 0% and up.
Example... pool 'Wilson' is 15% but not advertised.  So, they could change the fee at anytime since it's private.
Another pool 'sofia' is currently at 2%.  Also not advertised and I expect the rate to change.

You could vote for various deligates and calculate your payments you get from them (assuming they pay) to determine which are working as public and fees.  It takes time and you risk making nothing.  So, vote for the ones you know of.  Just make sure you realize a 15% pool may pay better than a 10% or 0% pool simply because of the number of people/votes in it.

In a week, pools will change a lot as Uniform distribution comes into play (which I didn't touch on).  Voting will spread out (mini chaos), but the above suggestions will still be in play.  You will simply want to vote in a pool with the smallest fee and lowest number of votes (as long as the pool is in the top 100).

For my example - Today?  Voting in Melvin 

Thank you for detailed clarification about voting. I should try to vote in Melvin too. Just after unvote in lvl3pool.

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[~Money~]

Making harsh comments and after that posting, something about your "thinking" is really marvelous.

I read the rules and it is uncertain.

It seems we will see on Saturday.

thats what i was trying to say, patience is something that many people dont have any clue about it,
sometimes its just need to be cool a while till you get your best answers, but we Humans, are so different

[cryptoRX]

Seems there was a change regarding the ETH-SEM Airdrop.

It now reads:

1. You need to have non-zero balance in your Etherum wallet at block #5357795 (Apr-01-2018).
2. You need to sign your Semux address with your Etherum wallet.
3. The airdrop rate is 2 ETH = 1 SEM. You will get at least 1 SEM and at most 500 SEM per address.
4. The total airdrop allocation is 2,000,000 SEM.
5. Applications will be processed on Saturday weekly.

My understanding would be that as long as you had ETH at the point of the snapshot, participants will receive a minimum of 1 SEM. To qualify for more than the bare minimum airdrop, participants would need more than 2 ETH in the registered wallet at the point of the snapshot.

But yeah, we will find out soon enough.

[Münzpräger]

Seems there was a change regarding the ETH-SEM Airdrop.

It now reads:

1. You need to have non-zero balance in your Etherum wallet at block #5357795 (Apr-01-2018).
2. You need to sign your Semux address with your Etherum wallet.
3. The airdrop rate is 2 ETH = 1 SEM. You will get at least 1 SEM and at most 500 SEM per address.
4. The total airdrop allocation is 2,000,000 SEM.
5. Applications will be processed on Saturday weekly.

My understanding would be that as long as you had ETH at the point of the snapshot, participants will receive a minimum of 1 SEM. To qualify for more than the bare minimum airdrop, participants would need more than 2 ETH in the registered wallet at the point of the snapshot.

But yeah, we will find out soon enough.

With this reduction from 5 to 1 SEM I think it is clear that each address that holds a non-zero ETH amount will receive SEM, alas only 1 instead of 5. For each full 2 ETH you'll get 1 SEM on top.

[levyashin]

POOLS!

I've been asked a couple of times about Pools and where to vote to get paid.

The answer is.... there is no direct answer because it's changing all the time.

Someone with 8000 votes asked, and the answer is: in this case the Best 'fee' doesn't equate to most profitable.

Example....
8000 votes into pool - '100_tokenpar_com' (which is 0% fee) will get you about 6 SEM per day (8000/12100090).
Putting that 8000 into pool - 'Melvin' (which is 15% fee) will get you about  10.2 SEM  (8000/5950090)-15%

So, even though Melvin is a 15% fee, you obviously end up with over 50% more SEM daily voting in 'Melvin'.

Pool 'Kolten' is a 10% fee.  This is where things get a little more difficult, because, as long as they stay at the relative position (both around 50), it's better to vote into pool 'Kolten'; however, this changes quickly.
- Basically, most people look for the smallest fee and vote in it not realizing as those small fee pools move up the list, your votes count for less of a percentage in the pool.  So, within days, voting for 'Kolten' doesn't equate to a better rate than 'Melvin'

10% of 100 = 100% of 10

My suggestion (today) is to put your votes into 'Melvin' as you're going to make more over time than 'Kolten'
And, it's better to vote for both of those than a 0% pool like '100_tokenpar_com'.

Also Note....
There are hidden pools.  Basically validators that are setup to be private pools. They are setup to be from 0% and up.
Example... pool 'Wilson' is 15% but not advertised.  So, they could change the fee at anytime since it's private.
Another pool 'sofia' is currently at 2%.  Also not advertised and I expect the rate to change.

You could vote for various deligates and calculate your payments you get from them (assuming they pay) to determine which are working as public and fees.  It takes time and you risk making nothing.  So, vote for the ones you know of.  Just make sure you realize a 15% pool may pay better than a 10% or 0% pool simply because of the number of people/votes in it.

In a week, pools will change a lot as Uniform distribution comes into play (which I didn't touch on).  Voting will spread out (mini chaos), but the above suggestions will still be in play.  You will simply want to vote in a pool with the smallest fee and lowest number of votes (as long as the pool is in the top 100).

For my example - Today?  Voting in Melvin 

It is a good post but also i hate you because this kind of posts will educate people and it will be less semux with same amount

I mean 135k tokenpar means 85k for other pools.

[gonzzza1]

Does anyone know the actual rate of 100_tokenpar_com pool? Out of a sudden I am receiving much smaller payouts. This happened on 01.april.2018. Has this pool raised their fee or something have changed in semux network?

[Bavaria]

Developers need to fix some bugs before exchange listing.
https://github.com/semuxproject/semux/issues/621

In the meantime you could buy SEM at otc thread direct from bitcointalk holders.
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2820855.new#new

Which exchanges SEMUX team will aim at? Would you mind giving me hints if you have information about upcoming exchange listings, please.

There is no info about upcoming exchanges yet.
But if you want to buy SEM immediate, you can check otc thread and take the deal with someone who have already hold sem. Link to the otc thread i've provided in my previous message.

[Hecquyn]

Please guide me sign ethereum wallet. I am new and should not have experience in this. If possible give me an example. Thanks a lot.

[mdodong]

Please guide me sign ethereum wallet. I am new and should not have experience in this. If possible give me an example. Thanks a lot.

1. visit https://www.myetherwallet.com/signmsg.html
2. In the Message box paste your Semux address
3. Select the appropriate option to unlock your eth wallet
4. Click Unlock
5. Click Sign Message
6. You will see some message like below:

{
  "address": "0x7e5f4552091a69125d5dfcb7b8c2659029395bdf",
  "msg": "0x2441fc9610c07b08b4570869a03bf0bc2145be65",
  "sig": "0xe18a571ecff856bad7c1d8fa53dc3ac6eade92077a8f60cc557e483f5b6a0ac311d11bc6dd9ca fec4d361a2b0f04170d8192be1cc260105c74d14a410c1701721c",
  "version": "3",
  "signer": "MEW"
}


7. visit https://www.semux.org/airdrop/eth
8. Enter your eth wallet address, should be similar to the address you've used in signing result shown in step 6.
9. Click Check Balance
10. You will see a message like:

   ETH address 0x7e5f4552091a69125d5dfcb7b8c2659029395bdf
    had balance 2.483587 ETH and is eligible to claim 1.2417935 SEM

10a. Sometimes it will show

   Semux Airdrop
    Balance check temporarily unavailable

This is okay as long as you are sure that you have balance in your eth wallet during the snapshot.
11. Enter your Semux Address
12. Enter the Signature taken from step 6.
Update! Make sure to paste the entire content of the signature highlighted in step 6
13. Click on Submit
14. Wait for Sunday to get the airdrop on your Semux wallet.  


15. Send me some merit if you think this is helpful.  

[yeyicheng2015]

every Saturday applications will get processed, so it depends when you registered, however snapshot happened on 1st of April

[Lucasgabd]

every Saturday applications will get processed, so it depends when you registered, however snapshot happened on 1st of April

so first airdrop payments will come tomorrow?

[mdodong]

every Saturday applications will get processed, so it depends when you registered, however snapshot happened on 1st of April

so first airdrop payments will come tomorrow?

Sunday, April 15 will be when the airdrop will be sent to your wallets.

[sprinkles]

15. Send me some merit if you think this is helpful. 

Merited. Thanks for all you do for the Semux project!

[Darthswan]

There is no info about upcoming exchanges yet.
But if you want to buy SEM immediate, you can check otc thread and take the deal with someone who have already hold sem. Link to the otc thread i've provided in my previous message.

In my opinion, it is too risky to buy coins on OTC, so I will wait a bit to buy Semux on official exchanges.

Why risky? I sold and bought semux in a discord, and it seems everything is fine, and payment came to the purse and coins. Another thing is that you need to use proven escrow to buy. Scammers are everywhere, just have to think with your head.
After all, it's still a matter of price, not fact that the coin will cost the same as now when they enter the exchange, it may also increase in price, although it may also fall in value)

[zhouyc]

Semux should first confirm the time schedule for subsequent coins exchange, which is an inspiration for supporters of Semux project.

[evelyne.theresia1]

Please guide me sign ethereum wallet. I am new and should not have experience in this. If possible give me an example. Thanks a lot.

1. visit https://www.myetherwallet.com/signmsg.html
2. In the Message box paste your Semux address
3. Select the appropriate option to unlock your eth wallet
4. Click Unlock
5. Click Sign Message
6. You will see some message like below:

{
  "address": "0x7e5f4552091a69125d5dfcb7b8c2659029395bdf",
  "msg": "0x2441fc9610c07b08b4570869a03bf0bc2145be65",
  "sig": "0xe18a571ecff856bad7c1d8fa53dc3ac6eade92077a8f60cc557e483f5b6a0ac311d11bc6dd9ca fec4d361a2b0f04170d8192be1cc260105c74d14a410c1701721c",
  "version": "3",
  "signer": "MEW"
}

7. visit https://www.semux.org/airdrop/eth
8. Enter your eth wallet address, should be similar to the address you've used in signing result shown in step 6.
9. Click Check Balance
10. You will see a message like:

   ETH address 0x7e5f4552091a69125d5dfcb7b8c2659029395bdf
    had balance 2.483587 ETH and is eligible to claim 1.2417935 SEM

10a. Sometimes it will show

   Semux Airdrop
    Balance check temporarily unavailable

This is okay as long as you are sure that you have balance in your eth wallet during the snapshot.
11. Enter your Semux Address
12. Enter the Signature taken from step 6.
13. Click on Submit
14. Wait for Sunday to get the airdrop on your Semux wallet.  


15. Send me some merit if you think this is helpful. 

Its okay if i paste all the signature message from MEW?

[evelyne.theresia1]

so for the noobs, I go to myetherwallet.com --> sign message --> in the message field I paste my Semux address --> this is what I get in return

{
  "address": "0x8xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx",
  "msg": "0xfxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx",
  "sig": "0x0axxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx",
  "version": "3",
  "signer": "web3"
}

What should I paste into the airdrop form where it asks for the signature? Everything? Only the hash from the "sig" line?

you paste the 0x0axxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx after the sig.
"sig": "0x0axxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx",

Thank mdodong, that's simple to do. But I think copy & paste all information "{  "address": "0x8xxxxxxxxxxxxx............... "web3"}, that would be eligible, too. Hope I will right.

I have paste all information too. But on Sign Message MEW, i just write "semux", am okay to go?

Thank you

You should have written your actual semux address and paste only the info after "sig" inside the quote marks.

OMG, so am i can't participate?
Because i can't edit anymore

We remove all invalid entries on Saturday, so you will be able to submit again 

You said all invalid information will removed on Saturday and can re-submit again, but i still see this message http://prntscr.com/j58oiy
Am i eligible to participate on this airdrop?

[SIGNW]

Is there a resource for comparing pools with info such as fees/min payout/payout frequency?

[lda1000]

Is there a resource for comparing pools with info such as fees/min payout/payout frequency?

The info is from Semux discord pools channel (pinned message)

100_tokenpar_com 0% fees (min payout: 0.03?)
Tent - Tiger - Dragon - Night is taking 5% (min payout: 0.5)
Pool_borderline is taking 6% (and 0.3% for the developer of the pool) (min payout: 0.3)
lvl3pool is taking 12% (min payout: 0.25)
Phash is taking 7% (0.5% for the devs) (min payout: 0.3)
Semux_pool_party are taking 8% (and 0.5% for developer of pool) (min payout: 0.3)
cn_pool is taking around 10% (min payout: 0?)
Semuxpool_com and Semuxpool_com2 are taking 15% (developer of pool) (min payout: 0.1)
Mddsemuxpool - Mddsemuxpool2 are taking 15% (01 is donating % to dev) (min payout: 0.5)
General 01-02-03-04 are taking 18% (min payout: 0.5)
animal pool are taking 25% (min payout: 0) Must sign up at https://semux.info/pool
zmogi is taking 10%(Min. payout 0.25)
kolten are taking 10%(Min. payout 0.25)
Melvin are taking 15%(Min. payout 0.25)

[mdodong]

You said all invalid information will removed on Saturday and can re-submit again, but i still see this message http://prntscr.com/j58oiy
Am i eligible to participate on this airdrop?

This week's airdrop is not yet processed due to invalid submissions and signature formats. Dev is working on it now. Once the airdrop is processed new submission will be accepted. Apologies for the delay.