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Absolutely yes! It never bothered me when it used to be $250 and I lose 0.1 BTC in a single bet as it was my weekly budget to gamble over sports. But now as the price is 20x, I have lowered down my total weekly bet to 0.02 btc and I hardly place them all in a single bet knowing that if I would lose, the loss would be huge in terms of fiat. So, I do it with smartness and place different bets with better chances of win. I used to gamble everyday before but it's not like that nowadays because now before gambling, I need to check the prices to decide whether to play or to withdraw.
You are absolutely right, It affect our gambling habits but we should control ourselves before place a bet with Bitcoin, if we can just see the conversion of Bitcoin price in local currency maybe we can learn how to use our Bitcoin and do gambling smartly.
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Hazaki
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September 09, 2017, 10:41:10 PM |
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Since the day bitcoin crossed 4k i never betted with it , i only played with fiat . Volatility is one of btc's best assets , if i loose my bitcoin funds i won't be just loosing a fixed amount of money , i'd be loosing the potential value that can add up to my funds .
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chris200x9
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September 10, 2017, 12:58:29 AM |
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Since the day bitcoin crossed 4k i never betted with it , i only played with fiat . Volatility is one of btc's best assets , if i loose my bitcoin funds i won't be just loosing a fixed amount of money , i'd be loosing the potential value that can add up to my funds .
I didn't understand why you want to play with fiat money? Suppose if you decide to spend $50 in gambling today than whether you use that $50 either in fiat or Bitcoins both are the same right? You need to choose the currency based on your convenient not based on the value of the currency. When you want to enjoy just think about present movement and spend what you can afford to lose whether it is bitcoins or fiat money.
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Hexah
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September 10, 2017, 02:38:41 AM |
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I think it is a Yes, well it is like the Law of Demand of the price of an item increases just like bitcoin our demand for it decreases and if price decreases we demand more of it. We can apply it also in gambling and usually the bets we do is the one being affected and it really but it depends also on the person who gambles even if the price is high and he usually bets the way he does because he might want to get more wins because he knows the price is high.
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September 10, 2017, 05:55:26 AM |
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Yes, because I set my limit using Fiat, so whenever the price go up I lower my bet, and I try not to waste my Bitcoin because the price now is very high, if I can keep it longer then I can get more wealth and during this volatility I seldom gamble because I used my money for trading
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September 10, 2017, 06:12:00 AM |
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So does this factor affect how you gamble?
If prices go up, do you lower you bets? For example, you normally bet 0.001 per bet, do you lower it to 0.0001 per bet?
If prices go down, do you place higher bets? For example, you normally bet 0.001 per bet, do you place higher bets like 0.01 per bet?
No, my gambling strategy doesn't change with the fluctuations in the USD/BTC exchange rates. I manage my bitcoin bankroll in terms of bitcoin only and I don't think about its conversion rates. I determine the amount of my daily gambling budget based on a percentage of my bankroll and I play at the stakes determined by that budget. The results are the same either way ---> 10% of $100 is the same as 10% of $100 worth of bitcoin ---> it makes no difference as long as the two quantities aren't unnecessarily mixed up in the process.
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September 10, 2017, 06:33:41 AM |
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So does this factor affect how you gamble?
If prices go up, do you lower you bets? For example, you normally bet 0.001 per bet, do you lower it to 0.0001 per bet?
If prices go down, do you place higher bets? For example, you normally bet 0.001 per bet, do you place higher bets like 0.01 per bet?
No, my gambling strategy doesn't change with the fluctuations in the USD/BTC exchange rates. I manage my bitcoin bankroll in terms of bitcoin only and I don't think about its conversion rates. I determine the amount of my daily gambling budget based on a percentage of my bankroll and I play at the stakes determined by that budget. The results are the same either way ---> 10% of $100 is the same as 10% of $100 worth of bitcoin ---> it makes no difference as long as the two quantities aren't unnecessarily mixed up in the process. Sometimes it makes me think that it gets too expensive to play since btc rises in value and I may consider saving that use it for playing but sometimes we can't really stop ourselves so still give ourselves a chance to play.
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September 10, 2017, 04:01:27 PM |
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So does this factor affect how you gamble?
If prices go up, do you lower you bets? For example, you normally bet 0.001 per bet, do you lower it to 0.0001 per bet?
If prices go down, do you place higher bets? For example, you normally bet 0.001 per bet, do you place higher bets like 0.01 per bet?
No, my gambling strategy doesn't change with the fluctuations in the USD/BTC exchange rates. I manage my bitcoin bankroll in terms of bitcoin only and I don't think about its conversion rates. I determine the amount of my daily gambling budget based on a percentage of my bankroll and I play at the stakes determined by that budget. The results are the same either way ---> 10% of $100 is the same as 10% of $100 worth of bitcoin ---> it makes no difference as long as the two quantities aren't unnecessarily mixed up in the process. Sometimes it makes me think that it gets too expensive to play since btc rises in value and I may consider saving that use it for playing but sometimes we can't really stop ourselves so still give ourselves a chance to play. Well of course it will.come to youe mind when you gamble but i agree, it won't really matter for hardcore gamblers because the price isn't important but sating their want for gambling. If you're keeping a capital of btc in your wallet, you're pretty much gambling with the same amount
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September 10, 2017, 04:37:48 PM |
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Not really. I am one of those gamblers that mine the bitcoin with multi GPU PC-s which I own so the price of bitcoin when it comes to gambling is really irrelevant to me. However I should start taking this into account as betting 0.01 btc now for a bet is 40 or more dollars per bet. Not a low amount to bet when it comes in FIAT terms. I should be more careful and low my bet to 0.003-0.004 btc , 15 dollars is a more reasonable amount for a bet.
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September 10, 2017, 05:29:21 PM |
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So does this factor affect how you gamble?
If prices go up, do you lower you bets? For example, you normally bet 0.001 per bet, do you lower it to 0.0001 per bet?
If prices go down, do you place higher bets? For example, you normally bet 0.001 per bet, do you place higher bets like 0.01 per bet?
No, my gambling strategy doesn't change with the fluctuations in the USD/BTC exchange rates. I manage my bitcoin bankroll in terms of bitcoin only and I don't think about its conversion rates. I determine the amount of my daily gambling budget based on a percentage of my bankroll and I play at the stakes determined by that budget. The results are the same either way ---> 10% of $100 is the same as 10% of $100 worth of bitcoin ---> it makes no difference as long as the two quantities aren't unnecessarily mixed up in the process. Sometimes it makes me think that it gets too expensive to play since btc rises in value and I may consider saving that use it for playing but sometimes we can't really stop ourselves so still give ourselves a chance to play. Well of course it will.come to youe mind when you gamble but i agree, it won't really matter for hardcore gamblers because the price isn't important but sating their want for gambling. If you're keeping a capital of btc in your wallet, you're pretty much gambling with the same amount Hard core gamblers will not think about the price and all. First of all, they are ready to play all there money to win money in gambling. And in this process, if they lost everything also they don't care. So for them, it will not affect much. But i care for money. For me, bitcoins is equal to money. So if the price increase i will reduce my betting amount and if the price decrease I can increase.
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September 10, 2017, 06:11:18 PM Last edit: September 10, 2017, 06:39:58 PM by lite |
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So does this factor affect how you gamble?
If prices go up, do you lower you bets? For example, you normally bet 0.001 per bet, do you lower it to 0.0001 per bet?
If prices go down, do you place higher bets? For example, you normally bet 0.001 per bet, do you place higher bets like 0.01 per bet?
No, price rise or fall doesn't affects my gambling. my bets are/will always be 1 mBTC or below, i usually bet 10k sats, sometimes i reach my max bet of 1 mBTC. it has been like that for quite long time now.
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Skarner21
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September 10, 2017, 06:57:42 PM |
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For me now i am just betting low bets its been for a long time a never increase or decrease my bet because 1 sat bet will never be lower except if i am betting in other altcoin.. which is i lowering the amount of altcoin if i seen the price of bitcoin increase or decrease.. Because if it will going to be affect the price of altcoin with bitcoin..
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Make crypto as your bank.
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pixie85
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September 10, 2017, 07:21:51 PM |
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Since the day bitcoin crossed 4k i never betted with it , i only played with fiat . Volatility is one of btc's best assets , if i loose my bitcoin funds i won't be just loosing a fixed amount of money , i'd be loosing the potential value that can add up to my funds .
I didn't understand why you want to play with fiat money? Suppose if you decide to spend $50 in gambling today than whether you use that $50 either in fiat or Bitcoins both are the same right? You need to choose the currency based on your convenient not based on the value of the currency. When you want to enjoy just think about present movement and spend what you can afford to lose whether it is bitcoins or fiat money. I agree with you. By betting with fiat and holding Bitcoin because of the volatility you might feel like you're making money and spending something that's not increasing in value but that's only a feeling. In reality you're still splitting your wealth into Bitcoin that should increase in value and fiat that shouldn't. Fiat in the casino is still fiat and Bitcoin is Bitcoin. The only way you could save money this way is if you lost as losing Bitcoin while its value goes up could hurt you more than losing fiat. If you believe in Bitcoin so much then it's best to convert all your fiat into it
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cjmoles
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September 10, 2017, 08:50:25 PM |
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Since the day bitcoin crossed 4k i never betted with it , i only played with fiat . Volatility is one of btc's best assets , if i loose my bitcoin funds i won't be just loosing a fixed amount of money , i'd be loosing the potential value that can add up to my funds .
I didn't understand why you want to play with fiat money? Suppose if you decide to spend $50 in gambling today than whether you use that $50 either in fiat or Bitcoins both are the same right? You need to choose the currency based on your convenient not based on the value of the currency. When you want to enjoy just think about present movement and spend what you can afford to lose whether it is bitcoins or fiat money. I agree with you. By betting with fiat and holding Bitcoin because of the volatility you might feel like you're making money and spending something that's not increasing in value but that's only a feeling. In reality you're still splitting your wealth into Bitcoin that should increase in value and fiat that shouldn't. Fiat in the casino is still fiat and Bitcoin is Bitcoin. The only way you could save money this way is if you lost as losing Bitcoin while its value goes up could hurt you more than losing fiat. If you believe in Bitcoin so much then it's best to convert all your fiat into it It's strange to me how people will try to adjust their behavior by trying to equate one thing with another and then getting lost in the math involved in the conversions. When the value of bitcoin increases in relation to the US dollar, then the whole bankroll increases. --> If you're following a sound bankroll management system, then the percentages of your bankroll you set aside for your session doesn't change. Ten percent of 1 BTC is still 0.1 BTC whether it's worth 1 dollar or a million dollars or whether it's exchange rate varies significantly throughout the day or not---> it's the same! 10% of 1 BTC == 0.100 BTC <--- always!
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Kimi80
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September 10, 2017, 10:07:33 PM |
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So does this factor affect how you gamble?
If prices go up, do you lower you bets? For example, you normally bet 0.001 per bet, do you lower it to 0.0001 per bet?
If prices go down, do you place higher bets? For example, you normally bet 0.001 per bet, do you place higher bets like 0.01 per bet?
I have some specific amount that I use for gambling but it is in dollar metric system. When I use bitcoin for gambling it is always proportionally equal as I would place dollars instead.
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SaShiRaJaVu
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September 10, 2017, 10:33:28 PM |
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The high price of bitcoin has certainly affected my game play as i am worried to lose a huge amount and now i am more careful and this will reflect the freedom i once had while gambling as is affecting my game badly,nothing can be done to sort this out but we have to adjust according to the situation and gamble wisely.
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Ziskinberg
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September 10, 2017, 11:37:48 PM |
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Not an issue for me, I am not worried about the price volatility being a gambler, what we need to do is just cash out at the right timing so we can have a the great value of our money. The volatility is normal but what we are seeing is the price going up in overall so it's better to start with a decent bankroll so we do not need to cash in and cash out every time.
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September 11, 2017, 05:00:00 PM |
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Not an issue for me, I am not worried about the price volatility being a gambler, what we need to do is just cash out at the right timing so we can have a the great value of our money. The volatility is normal but what we are seeing is the price going up in overall so it's better to start with a decent bankroll so we do not need to cash in and cash out every time.
For me it doesn't because I don't readily withdraw and spend after games and so if the volatility is against me today chances are that hat tomorrow it will turn in my favor and so I give no qualms about it's volatility when it comes to my gambling lifestyle.
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September 11, 2017, 07:41:10 PM |
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Of course! When bitcoin price move up too high I will make my bets a bit lower and vice versa. I think most people will do the same thing as well.
Basically, the equivalent amount in dollars that you are willing to bet will remain same, but the decimals in bitcoins will change accordingly. Still playing the safe game! But using bitcoins for gambling, where you can lose your bitcoins very easily is not very smart after all.
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September 11, 2017, 07:43:41 PM |
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It doesnt. My bankroll management basically only allows me to gamble set % of my total bankroll.
This is completely seperate from the USD value of the bet.
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