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May 26, 2013, 06:08:25 AM
Last edit: July 27, 2013, 12:16:55 AM by betbybitcoin
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 Greetings and welcome to SuzukiDice! You have landed in a great place. SuzukiDice is a place to send your bitcoin bets and receive results instantaneous! We are very much like SatoshiDice in many ways, but there is one factor that sets us apart from the rest of our competitors. What is that?

 Our payout is greater than that of SatoshiDICE. That is why players are switching over to SuzukiDice.com! Why would they not? There is the comfort of a familiar playing platform, a safe and FAIR betting system, and the payout is greater! There are many benefits of migrating to SuzukiDice!

Start playing today!

http://suzukidice.com

Why Suzukidice?

 Suppose that a customer bets 1.0 btc to the “less than 64,000” game then Suzukidice will pay1.005btc whereas the rate provided by Satoshidice is only 1.004btc. A normal user will go for Suzukidice because they are paying more than their competitor and all the other processes are same on both websites because Suzukidice is a clone of Satoshidice.

So, why do you even bet to “Satoshidice.com”?

 Why Suzukidice?

Suppose that a customer bets 1.0 btc to the “less than 64,000” game then Suzukidice will pay1.005btc whereas the rate provided by Satoshidice is only 1.004btc. A normal user will go for Suzukidice because they are paying more than their competitor and all the other processes are same on both websites because Suzukidice is a clone of Satoshidice.

So, why do you even bet to “Satoshidice.com”?
Number Ranges    Suzukidice    Satoshidice
If you bet “Less than 60,000”    1.072x    1.071x
If you bet “Less than 56,000”    1.148x    1.147x
If you bet “Less than 52,000”    1.236x   1.235x
If you bet “Less than 48,000”    1.339x    1.338x
If you bet “Less than 32,768”    1.958x    1.957x
If you bet “Less than 32,000”    2.005x    2.004x
If you bet “Less than 24,000”    2.671x    2.670x
If you bet “Less than 16,000”    4.004x    4.003x
If you bet “Less than 12,000”    5.336x    5.335x
If you bet “Less than   8,000”    8.001x    8.000x
If you bet “Less than   6,000”    10.667 x   10.666x

Please visit http://suzukidice.com.

Thank you.

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Lessthan            Odds          PriceMultiplier  Payout
Lessthan 64000   97.66%    1.0150x       99.121%
Lessthan 60000   91.55%    1.0830x       99.151%
Lessthan 56000   85.45%    1.1600x       99.121%
Lessthan 52000   79.35%    1.2490x       99.102%
Lessthan 48000   73.24%    1.3540x       99.169%
Lessthan 32768   50.00%    1.9820x       99.100%
Lessthan 32000   48.83%    2.0300x       99.121%
Lessthan 24000   36.62%    2.7070x       99.133%
Lessthan 16000   24.41%    4.0600x       99.121%
Lessthan 12000   18.31%    5.4130x       99.114%
Lessthan   8000   12.21%    8.1190x      99.108%
Lessthan   6000    9.16%   10.825x        99.106%

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May 26, 2013, 06:11:06 AM
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*reserving this post to supply with evidence of actual fairness of odds, likely to be proven by other members in the near future*
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May 26, 2013, 06:14:29 AM
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I understand this is maybe a problem on my end, but when I try to go to your site I'm blocked by this messege



No other Bitcoin websites give me this, I do get it occasionally when browsing the net however (Maybe 3 or 4 times in the last few months)

You got any idea why?

I can also delete this post if you want, I don't want people to accidentally think I'm framing you as a scam site or something along those lines.
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May 26, 2013, 06:38:01 AM
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What are you using an antivirus software? We will try it if we can get it.

We are using GData Internet Security. But we don't look the message.

I understand this is maybe a problem on my end, but when I try to go to your site I'm blocked by this messege



No other Bitcoin websites give me this, I do get it occasionally when browsing the net however (Maybe 3 or 4 times in the last few months)

You got any idea why?

I can also delete this post if you want, I don't want people to accidentally think I'm framing you as a scam site or something along those lines.

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May 26, 2013, 06:39:20 AM
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What are you using an antivirus software? We will try it if we can get it.

We are using GData Internet Security. But we don't look the message.

I understand this is maybe a problem on my end, but when I try to go to your site I'm blocked by this messege



No other Bitcoin websites give me this, I do get it occasionally when browsing the net however (Maybe 3 or 4 times in the last few months)

You got any idea why?

I can also delete this post if you want, I don't want people to accidentally think I'm framing you as a scam site or something along those lines.

As the pic states: Malwarebytes. Smiley
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Malwarebytes, duh.

The risk alone isn't worth betting on your site.
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May 26, 2013, 06:42:32 AM
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Your house edge is bigger than sDICE:

10.666x (sdice)

vs

10.66x (you)
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May 26, 2013, 06:59:20 AM
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Suppose that a customer bets 1.0 btc to the “less than 64,000” game then Suzukidice will pay1.005btc whereas the rate provided by Satoshidice is only 1.004btc. A normal user will go for Suzukidice because they are paying more than their competitor and all the other processes are same on both websites because Suzukidice is a clone of Satoshidice.

[...]

Suppose that a customer bets 1.0 btc to the “less than 64,000” game then Suzukidice will pay1.005btc whereas the rate provided by Satoshidice is only 1.004btc. A normal user will go for Suzukidice because they are paying more than their competitor and all the other processes are same on both websites because Suzukidice is a clone of Satoshidice.

We heard you the first time.

When you say "clone", do you mean it uses the same back-end software?  Or are you just guessing what their "processes" are?

On your website I see this text:

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Please bet with the single sending. Please do not imploy multi-sending in order to increase your odds of winning. Our system is set up on a single sending/single wallet transaction basis.

It sounds like your processes are quite different, because SatoshiDice happily handles any number of bets per transaction.  Also, I'd advise getting someone with good English to proof-read your text.  Some of it is quite opaque.  Or at least run it though a spell check.  Smiley

What's this meant to be telling me?

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Some bet will need to be confirmed for fairness, and will take a fraction longer than the usual bets. You will see your results right away, whether you are a winner... or a loser.

So do I have to wait an average of 10 minutes for a confirmation sometimes, or will I see my result "right away"?  You can't have it both ways.  Or are you going to tell me I lost straight away, but wait for a confirmation before paying out?  If you do that, I can attempt to double-spend my losing bet.

Number Ranges    Suzukidice    Satoshidice
If you bet “Less than 60,000”    1.072x    1.071x
If you bet “Less than 56,000”    1.148x    1.147x
If you bet “Less than 52,000”    1.236x   1.235x

Those payout multipliers are almost identical to satoshidice.  Are you aware that sites like primedice.com and coinroll.com are offering a tiny 1% house edge?  I think you made an error here:

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If you bet “Less than   6,000”    10.66 x   10.65x

SatoshiDice pays 10.6655x, which is more than you.

Also, your website doesn't seem to mention how much you send back in the event of a loss.

Assuming you return 0.5% on a loss, the same as SatoshiDice, here's a comparison of the house edge on your site with SDICE, CoinRoll and PrimeDice:

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64000    1.0050 1.843%   1.0044 1.902%    1%          1%
60000    1.0720 1.813%   1.0711 1.895%    1%          1%
56000    1.1480 1.831%   1.1472 1.899%    1%          1%
52000    1.2360 1.825%   1.2351 1.896%    1%          1%
48000    1.3390 1.794%   1.3376 1.897%    1%          1%
32768    1.9580 1.850%   1.9570 1.900%    1%          1%
32000    2.0050 1.843%   2.0038 1.902%    1%          1%
24000    2.6710 1.868%   2.6701 1.901%    1%          1%
16000    4.0040 1.868%   4.0027 1.899%    1%          1%
12000    5.3360 1.886%   5.3353 1.899%    1%          1%
 8000    8.0010 1.892%   8.0004 1.899%    1%          1%
 6000   10.6600 1.950%  10.6655 1.900%    1%          1%

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May 26, 2013, 07:32:21 AM
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Suppose that a customer bets 1.0 btc to the “less than 64,000” game then Suzukidice will pay1.005btc whereas the rate provided by Satoshidice is only 1.004btc. A normal user will go for Suzukidice because they are paying more than their competitor and all the other processes are same on both websites because Suzukidice is a clone of Satoshidice.

[...]

Suppose that a customer bets 1.0 btc to the “less than 64,000” game then Suzukidice will pay1.005btc whereas the rate provided by Satoshidice is only 1.004btc. A normal user will go for Suzukidice because they are paying more than their competitor and all the other processes are same on both websites because Suzukidice is a clone of Satoshidice.

We heard you the first time.

When you say "clone", do you mean it uses the same back-end software?  Or are you just guessing what their "processes" are?

On your website I see this text:

Quote
Please bet with the single sending. Please do not imploy multi-sending in order to increase your odds of winning. Our system is set up on a single sending/single wallet transaction basis.

It sounds like your processes are quite different, because SatoshiDice happily handles any number of bets per transaction.  Also, I'd advise getting someone with good English to proof-read your text.  Some of it is quite opaque.  Or at least run it though a spell check.  Smiley

What's this meant to be telling me?

Quote
Some bet will need to be confirmed for fairness, and will take a fraction longer than the usual bets. You will see your results right away, whether you are a winner... or a loser.

So do I have to wait an average of 10 minutes for a confirmation sometimes, or will I see my result "right away"?  You can't have it both ways.  Or are you going to tell me I lost straight away, but wait for a confirmation before paying out?  If you do that, I can attempt to double-spend my losing bet.

Number Ranges    Suzukidice    Satoshidice
If you bet “Less than 60,000”    1.072x    1.071x
If you bet “Less than 56,000”    1.148x    1.147x
If you bet “Less than 52,000”    1.236x   1.235x

Those payout multipliers are almost identical to satoshidice.  Are you aware that sites like primedice.com and coinroll.com are offering a tiny 1% house edge?  I think you made an error here:

Quote
If you bet “Less than   6,000”    10.66 x   10.65x

SatoshiDice pays 10.6655x, which is more than you.

Also, your website doesn't seem to mention how much you send back in the event of a loss.

Assuming you return 0.5% on a loss, the same as SatoshiDice, here's a comparison of the house edge on your site with SDICE, CoinRoll and PrimeDice:

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             Suzuki          Satoshi    CoinRoll   PrimeDice
64000    1.0050 1.843%   1.0044 1.902%    1%          1%
60000    1.0720 1.813%   1.0711 1.895%    1%          1%
56000    1.1480 1.831%   1.1472 1.899%    1%          1%
52000    1.2360 1.825%   1.2351 1.896%    1%          1%
48000    1.3390 1.794%   1.3376 1.897%    1%          1%
32768    1.9580 1.850%   1.9570 1.900%    1%          1%
32000    2.0050 1.843%   2.0038 1.902%    1%          1%
24000    2.6710 1.868%   2.6701 1.901%    1%          1%
16000    4.0040 1.868%   4.0027 1.899%    1%          1%
12000    5.3360 1.886%   5.3353 1.899%    1%          1%
 8000    8.0010 1.892%   8.0004 1.899%    1%          1%
 6000   10.6600 1.950%  10.6655 1.900%    1%          1%

Yeh, you should look at maybe implementing 0.9% house edge, maybe even lower. Even if you slightly undercut SD you'd still be well above the other competition. Even a 0.5% house edge could be worthwhile, it'd really attract new bettors (Including myself Tongue)
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May 26, 2013, 07:33:36 AM
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Thank you for pointing that out.

We modified the "clone" , the "competitors" and the display digit of the price multiplier.

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May 26, 2013, 07:03:04 PM
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You Max Bet limitations will keep my play at SatoshiDice. Betting on a return multiplier of 4x or more and then varying my bet amounts is my best way of getting "lucky". Please consider raising your bet limits at least to .500 BTC
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May 27, 2013, 04:45:10 AM
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I think you should add some other cool statistics like SatoshiDICE has. Stuff along the lines of rare wins, leaderboard, stuff like that.

This more or less entices people to bet with you. At the moment your site is a little boring.

Oh and I managed to get past that issue before Tongue It seems to have fixed itself. Either that or my anti virus is simply trash and doesn't know what it's doing Wink
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May 27, 2013, 05:03:42 AM
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so what is the house edge ?

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May 27, 2013, 05:04:54 AM
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so what is the house edge ?

It sorta varies afaik... Like it isn't consistent when I last checked.

It's more or less 1.7%.. give or take.
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May 27, 2013, 06:14:31 AM
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Opening Campaign over 99.1% Payout!!


Lessthan 64000   97.66%   1.0150x   99.121%
Lessthan 60000   91.55%   1.0830x   99.151%
Lessthan 56000   85.45%   1.1600x   99.121%
Lessthan 52000   79.35%   1.2490x   99.102%
Lessthan 48000   73.24%   1.3540x   99.169%
Lessthan 32768   50.00%   1.9820x   99.100%
Lessthan 32000   48.83%   2.0300x   99.121%
Lessthan 24000   36.62%   2.7070x   99.133%
Lessthan 16000   24.41%   4.0600x   99.121%
Lessthan 12000   18.31%   5.4130x   99.114%
Lessthan 8000    12.21%   8.1190x   99.108%
Lessthan 6000     9.16%     10.825x   99.106%

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May 28, 2013, 03:50:09 PM
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so what is the house edge ?

Under 0.9%, right now.

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May 28, 2013, 09:44:28 PM
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We have a network problem, right now.

Sorry.

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May 29, 2013, 05:32:15 AM
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We have a network problem, right now.

Sorry.

The problem was restored.

Thank you.

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We changed the CSS and hope that you like it.

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June 08, 2013, 04:16:35 AM
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I would play but, the minimum bet is to rich for my blood. I haven't seen 0.10 btc yet im at around 0.05. Id be scared to bet that knowing how long it takes to accumulate 0.01.
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