[ANN][PreICO]NOVACOOL-Immersion Cooling for PC. IN PROGRESS 📈🚀🌟🌟

[Sergei.Gerasimenko]

This project is simple but rich, not cumbersome, this is a highly efficient team, in addition to mining, how to get the token? Will it be empty or bounty activities?

Where have you found a team?

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[Sergei.Gerasimenko]

Wheres the team doing this?

We are international team

and that makes it ok to raise millions? no wonder vast majority here are skeptics. you'll have to do better

Like say Vitalik Buterin the team is not main, main is the project.
Team are locate in Italy/China/Russia

Many projects failed their ICOs here only because of absence of a team information.

[NOVACOOL]

Wheres the team doing this?

We are international team

and that makes it ok to raise millions? no wonder vast majority here are skeptics. you'll have to do better

Like say Vitalik Buterin the team is not main, main is the project.
Team are locate in Italy/China/Russia

Many projects failed their ICOs here only because of absence of a team information.

The key team persons is shown in the White Paper.

[NOVACOOL]

https://medium.com/@NOVAcool_io/immersion-cooling-for-home-pc-future-is-coming-e59c7405d0ec

[no-ice-please]

So you are actually only selling 20% discount vouchers, right? Anyone investing in your project could at maximum earn 20%, with a very high probability that you don't deliver or set up your warehouse. In other words: a very high probability that investors lose everything. Is that more or less correct?

Nope it's totally incorrect!
20% it benefits for buyers who just wanna buy our solution and choose how to buy it. Using usual transaction via bank card or using our Token. So if he choose the token he goes to the  exchange market to buy it from investor which are bought Token on preSale/Sale.
The token price is not tied up to the unit cost. The price is tied up only for USD. So on the 1 token you can buy up to any amount of the units  depends on Token $ price. So teoreticaly if One token will be cost 2800USD, you can sell it to 10 users which are wanna to buy our solution and get it.
We try to evaluate for investor normal profit for a first year x3.

If we not set up warehouse the delivery time and cost  just be not so small that we and buyers wishing

Sure there is usual risk for investor like with others coin/token. There was two ways to make fixed price for one unit case, some say one Case = one token, but by this way  you can't get more profite and speculate by this one market. And second way is to not fixed price of PC case in Token and make it easy for speculation. Also it's impossible for investor to loose because for buyers "from street" doesn't matter for how much he buy token he pay in Fiat 350 USD- 20%, so he will buy Token for any price becasue price in for the PC case in Token set up everyday .  
Example:  
Price 350 USD with bankcard / 280 USD with Token
Pre sale price for 1 token was some say 300 USD
So for this day 1 PC case cost in token 280USD/300USD = 0,933 ICS(buyer from the street pay 280USD for the PC case)
if Tomorrow price for 1 token will be some say 3000USD
So for tomorrow 1 PCS cost in token 280USD/3000USD = 0,0933 ICS(buyer from the street pay same 280USD for the PC case)
Investor gets profit!

I hope i much cleary explain to you.

Wait: then I completely failed to understand what your token represents. It does not represent any right to generated profit, does it? Why would your token increase in value if there is no asset other than more or less price fixed products backing the tokens?

It does not represent any right to generated profit, does it? YES
Why would your token increase in value if there is no asset other than more or less price fixed products backing the tokens? Same answer as for Bitcoin why it's increasing in Value?

Ok I thought you somewhere wrote that it does not entitle the right to receive profits you generate within the company. My mistake then.

[NOVACOOL]

So you are actually only selling 20% discount vouchers, right? Anyone investing in your project could at maximum earn 20%, with a very high probability that you don't deliver or set up your warehouse. In other words: a very high probability that investors lose everything. Is that more or less correct?

Nope it's totally incorrect!
20% it benefits for buyers who just wanna buy our solution and choose how to buy it. Using usual transaction via bank card or using our Token. So if he choose the token he goes to the  exchange market to buy it from investor which are bought Token on preSale/Sale.
The token price is not tied up to the unit cost. The price is tied up only for USD. So on the 1 token you can buy up to any amount of the units  depends on Token $ price. So teoreticaly if One token will be cost 2800USD, you can sell it to 10 users which are wanna to buy our solution and get it.
We try to evaluate for investor normal profit for a first year x3.

If we not set up warehouse the delivery time and cost  just be not so small that we and buyers wishing

Sure there is usual risk for investor like with others coin/token. There was two ways to make fixed price for one unit case, some say one Case = one token, but by this way  you can't get more profite and speculate by this one market. And second way is to not fixed price of PC case in Token and make it easy for speculation. Also it's impossible for investor to loose because for buyers "from street" doesn't matter for how much he buy token he pay in Fiat 350 USD- 20%, so he will buy Token for any price becasue price in for the PC case in Token set up everyday .  
Example:  
Price 350 USD with bankcard / 280 USD with Token
Pre sale price for 1 token was some say 300 USD
So for this day 1 PC case cost in token 280USD/300USD = 0,933 ICS(buyer from the street pay 280USD for the PC case)
if Tomorrow price for 1 token will be some say 3000USD
So for tomorrow 1 PCS cost in token 280USD/3000USD = 0,0933 ICS(buyer from the street pay same 280USD for the PC case)
Investor gets profit!

I hope i much cleary explain to you.

Wait: then I completely failed to understand what your token represents. It does not represent any right to generated profit, does it? Why would your token increase in value if there is no asset other than more or less price fixed products backing the tokens?

It does not represent any right to generated profit, does it? YES
Why would your token increase in value if there is no asset other than more or less price fixed products backing the tokens? Same answer as for Bitcoin why it's increasing in Value?

Ok I thought you somewhere wrote that it does not entitle the right to receive profits you generate within the company. My mistake then.

No problem sir. The 20% discount need to involve more people in Token economics and to pump the price of the Token on market. We hope to involve in the Token market about 200M$ when our market is about 700M$

[vankinhluan]

I will definitely have a look at this wp. Thanks for the project.
Bounty and ICO will be? When?

[blacktux88]

would be interessting whats represent if its done !
are there finished Computersystems or only finished cooling systems for PCs or for Servers too

thanks team
nice try of course

[NOVACOOL]

I will definitely have a look at this wp. Thanks for the project.
Bounty and ICO will be? When?

Thx a lot!
If you have more questions you may ask them in our telegram group and get more extended answers.
Ther will be PreSale at 28.09.2017 and Sale at 26.10.2017.
There are no bounty, sorry.

[NOVACOOL]

would be interessting whats represent if its done !
are there finished Computersystems or only finished cooling systems for PCs or for Servers too

thanks team
nice try of course

It's finished PC/Server case in which you could you use your standard PC hardware. Buy and assemble NOVACOOL system just once and then you may easy use&upgrade to next future generations of the PC hardware. If some moving parts like a fans&pump with time will fail, you may easy replace them because they outside of the PC case.

[Vanellsworth]

Token exchange rate: 1 ETH=1.2 ICS => too high price, I don't think it can reach that price

[NOVACOOL]

Token exchange rate: 1 ETH=1.2 ICS => too high price, I don't think it can reach that price

What is the differences? If:
500 000 ICS  with price 1 ETH= 1,2 ICS
500 000 000 ICS with price 1 ETH =1200ICS?

[timothyymoore]

The more you know about your customers, the more you can provide to them information that is increasingly useful, relevant, and persuasive.

[NOVACOOL]

The more you know about your customers, the more you can provide to them information that is increasingly useful, relevant, and persuasive.

Thank you for advivce!
Sure, we know the customer headache and we explain it in our WP.

[naska21]

What kind of "dry water" is used in your system? 3M Novec 1230 isn't it? Can your cooling case be adopted  for cooling  GPU's mining farm  (say 4-5 GPU cards) ?

[NOVACOOL]

What kind of "dry water" is used in your system? 3M Novec 1230 isn't it? Can your cooling case be adopted  for cooling  GPU's mining farm  (say 4-5 GPU cards) ?

3M Novec it's tradmark name of the dry water.
It will be possible to use up to 4 GPU when we or vendors will release SE GPU for 1 SLOT.
Others ways for now you may use only up to 2 GPU with double slot.

[no-ice-please]

So you are actually only selling 20% discount vouchers, right? Anyone investing in your project could at maximum earn 20%, with a very high probability that you don't deliver or set up your warehouse. In other words: a very high probability that investors lose everything. Is that more or less correct?

Nope it's totally incorrect!
20% it benefits for buyers who just wanna buy our solution and choose how to buy it. Using usual transaction via bank card or using our Token. So if he choose the token he goes to the  exchange market to buy it from investor which are bought Token on preSale/Sale.
The token price is not tied up to the unit cost. The price is tied up only for USD. So on the 1 token you can buy up to any amount of the units  depends on Token $ price. So teoreticaly if One token will be cost 2800USD, you can sell it to 10 users which are wanna to buy our solution and get it.
We try to evaluate for investor normal profit for a first year x3.

If we not set up warehouse the delivery time and cost  just be not so small that we and buyers wishing

Sure there is usual risk for investor like with others coin/token. There was two ways to make fixed price for one unit case, some say one Case = one token, but by this way  you can't get more profite and speculate by this one market. And second way is to not fixed price of PC case in Token and make it easy for speculation. Also it's impossible for investor to loose because for buyers "from street" doesn't matter for how much he buy token he pay in Fiat 350 USD- 20%, so he will buy Token for any price becasue price in for the PC case in Token set up everyday .  
Example:  
Price 350 USD with bankcard / 280 USD with Token
Pre sale price for 1 token was some say 300 USD
So for this day 1 PC case cost in token 280USD/300USD = 0,933 ICS(buyer from the street pay 280USD for the PC case)
if Tomorrow price for 1 token will be some say 3000USD
So for tomorrow 1 PCS cost in token 280USD/3000USD = 0,0933 ICS(buyer from the street pay same 280USD for the PC case)
Investor gets profit!

I hope i much cleary explain to you.

Wait: then I completely failed to understand what your token represents. It does not represent any right to generated profit, does it? Why would your token increase in value if there is no asset other than more or less price fixed products backing the tokens?

It does not represent any right to generated profit, does it? YES
Why would your token increase in value if there is no asset other than more or less price fixed products backing the tokens? Same answer as for Bitcoin why it's increasing in Value?

Ok I thought you somewhere wrote that it does not entitle the right to receive profits you generate within the company. My mistake then.

No problem sir. The 20% discount need to involve more people in Token economics and to pump the price of the Token on market. We hope to involve in the Token market about 200M$ when our market is about 700M$

Ok now you are starting to really talk unreal shit. I really thought about paying attention to your project, but why are you claiming such utopic numbers? Let's place a bet for 12 months in a smart contract. I am willing to put forward 50 BTC. Let me know if you are interested.

[NOVACOOL]

So you are actually only selling 20% discount vouchers, right? Anyone investing in your project could at maximum earn 20%, with a very high probability that you don't deliver or set up your warehouse. In other words: a very high probability that investors lose everything. Is that more or less correct?

Nope it's totally incorrect!
20% it benefits for buyers who just wanna buy our solution and choose how to buy it. Using usual transaction via bank card or using our Token. So if he choose the token he goes to the  exchange market to buy it from investor which are bought Token on preSale/Sale.
The token price is not tied up to the unit cost. The price is tied up only for USD. So on the 1 token you can buy up to any amount of the units  depends on Token $ price. So teoreticaly if One token will be cost 2800USD, you can sell it to 10 users which are wanna to buy our solution and get it.
We try to evaluate for investor normal profit for a first year x3.

If we not set up warehouse the delivery time and cost  just be not so small that we and buyers wishing

Sure there is usual risk for investor like with others coin/token. There was two ways to make fixed price for one unit case, some say one Case = one token, but by this way  you can't get more profite and speculate by this one market. And second way is to not fixed price of PC case in Token and make it easy for speculation. Also it's impossible for investor to loose because for buyers "from street" doesn't matter for how much he buy token he pay in Fiat 350 USD- 20%, so he will buy Token for any price becasue price in for the PC case in Token set up everyday .  
Example:  
Price 350 USD with bankcard / 280 USD with Token
Pre sale price for 1 token was some say 300 USD
So for this day 1 PC case cost in token 280USD/300USD = 0,933 ICS(buyer from the street pay 280USD for the PC case)
if Tomorrow price for 1 token will be some say 3000USD
So for tomorrow 1 PCS cost in token 280USD/3000USD = 0,0933 ICS(buyer from the street pay same 280USD for the PC case)
Investor gets profit!

I hope i much cleary explain to you.

Wait: then I completely failed to understand what your token represents. It does not represent any right to generated profit, does it? Why would your token increase in value if there is no asset other than more or less price fixed products backing the tokens?

It does not represent any right to generated profit, does it? YES
Why would your token increase in value if there is no asset other than more or less price fixed products backing the tokens? Same answer as for Bitcoin why it's increasing in Value?

Ok I thought you somewhere wrote that it does not entitle the right to receive profits you generate within the company. My mistake then.

No problem sir. The 20% discount need to involve more people in Token economics and to pump the price of the Token on market. We hope to involve in the Token market about 200M$ when our market is about 700M$

Ok now you are starting to really talk unreal shit. I really thought about paying attention to your project, but why are you claiming such utopic numbers? Let's place a bet for 12 months in a smart contract. I am willing to put forward 50 BTC. Let me know if you are interested.

Maybe we misunderstood each other?
What do you mean "claiming such utopic numbers "? As we calculate our Served/Serviceable Available Market is up to 2 Millions PC cooling systems per year it's about 350$*2m= 700$M and  7.12$ Billion in 2016 to 14.28$ Billion by 2021 for server cooling systems.
Our calculation even correlating with google.adwords that show more than 1.2M queries per year for PC water cooling system. That shows that more than 1.2M people always looking for the best cooling system for the PC.
Of course  we can't supply 2M units even if everybody wish it, so the Serviceable & Obtainable Market is up to 500K-700K units per year 500K*350$=175$M. It's just a calculation based on market no need to be so dramatic.
Of course the smart contract will be presented on Github.com before Token PreSale starts.
You and other investors are always welcome, let's make world more comfortable and the hardware more cold!

[Budycakrog]

new konsep on first immersion Cooling System For PC ,
i think still contionus for supporting and see overall about project

[NOVACOOL]

new konsep on first immersion Cooling System For PC ,
i think still contionus for supporting and see overall about project

Thank you!