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September 12, 2017, 07:55:04 PM
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Awesome project. I really love that it is in Austria, and about a 20 minute drive from where I am living.

Email sent to the team, hopefully they will get back with me soon and we can get some real info going on about the project.

Thank you for your interest!

Did you know that you can actually visit the rigs that are already installed?

If you are interested in a tour you can contact Tobias Ratschiller (@tobyra on Telegram or PM me for his email address).
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September 13, 2017, 04:32:36 AM
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Awesome threesome, lucky lad he has 2 beautiful extremely hot girls working with him. I don't know why am I still alive? I'm afraid you 2 gorgeous

Sisters have a long way to go before taken seriously with such serious demands from the community. what you need to do I guess is to rent your rigs

The way which I'll provide with as much details as my brain could come up with. why don't you ladies and gentleman rent your rigs in the form of a

VPS to people? I'd like nothing more than a Windows remote desktop with dedicated resources such as memory hard drive and specially GPU allocated

In a virtual machine with a private IP, that way I could mine whatever I want and you just charge me like all the VPS providers are charging people.

That way if I don't get my ROI or suffer a loss due to bad choices for mining, you are not responsible for my loss but I am. just think about it.
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September 13, 2017, 09:22:52 AM
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HydroMiner Partners With Bancor for Continuous Liquidity

https://www.hydrominer.org/hydrominer-partners-bancor-continuous-liquidity/
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September 13, 2017, 07:00:48 PM
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Awesome threesome, lucky lad he has 2 beautiful extremely hot girls working with him. I don't know why am I still alive? I'm afraid you 2 gorgeous

Sisters have a long way to go before taken seriously with such serious demands from the community. what you need to do I guess is to rent your rigs

The way which I'll provide with as much details as my brain could come up with. why don't you ladies and gentleman rent your rigs in the form of a

VPS to people? I'd like nothing more than a Windows remote desktop with dedicated resources such as memory hard drive and specially GPU allocated

In a virtual machine with a private IP, that way I could mine whatever I want and you just charge me like all the VPS providers are charging people.

That way if I don't get my ROI or suffer a loss due to bad choices for mining, you are not responsible for my loss but I am. just think about it.

Hello freebutcaged,

That is a very interesting approach but the business moder of HydroMiner is different. The Damblon sisters and their team have extensive experience running mining operations and are constantly looking out for the best coins to mine, apart from having a very solid reinvestment plan to buy newer equipment and this way maintain the profitability over time.

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September 13, 2017, 07:29:20 PM
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Check out the latest video from the HydroMiner team:

https://vimeo.com/233496544
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September 13, 2017, 08:12:21 PM
Last edit: September 13, 2017, 09:43:04 PM by eneloop
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1. It's "Bruck an der Mur" not "Muhr"!

2. Whois Lookup anonymous: https://www.whois.com/whois/hydrominer.org

3. Where is your registered office located? Your commercial registration number?

4. CoinStaker "Review": https://www.coinstaker.com/hydrominer-ico - This "review" was written from one of your team members. This is not a review, this is an advertisment.



5. ROI in about 8 month? Come on. Please show us your business plan. If you are able to achieve ROI in about 8 month, there is no need to collect money from the community offering a 30% stake of your business.

6. Allocation of the profits: 80% to the stake holders: 30% community stake, 70% your own = 56% plus 10 % token bu back plus 10% for the team -> you take 76% of the profits.



7. There is a reason, why most of the big mining is done in countrys with very low electricity price.
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September 13, 2017, 08:16:18 PM
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are you affiliated with hydroponic cannabis growing farms? thank you

I heard there are some sisters in Berlin who do something like this and they have many fans
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September 14, 2017, 11:07:54 AM
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1. It's "Bruck an der Mur" not "Muhr"!

2. Whois Lookup anonymous: https://www.whois.com/whois/hydrominer.org

3. Where is your registered office located? Your commercial registration number?

4. CoinStaker "Review": https://www.coinstaker.com/hydrominer-ico - This "review" was written from one of your team members. This is not a review, this is an advertisment.

5. ROI in about 8 month? Come on. Please show us your business plan. If you are able to achieve ROI in about 8 month, there is no need to collect money from the community offering a 30% stake of your business.

6. Allocation of the profits: 80% to the stake holders: 30% community stake, 70% your own = 56% plus 10 % token bu back plus 10% for the team -> you take 76% of the profits.

7. There is a reason, why most of the big mining is done in countrys with very low electricity price.


Hey Eneloop! Thanks for your write-up. Allow us to explain to you and all bitcointalk readers:

1. Typos happen. Thanks for noticing and helping us improve. 

2. We will be contacting the support on the platform over which we registered our domain to change it to public.

3. We have not incorporated a company, yet. We are currently in the process of figuring out the best company structure. After legal consultations, we figured out that it largely depends on how big the investment gets - it just has many factors like legal cost, company establishment costs, tax costs, etc. So we will wait until the tokensale is over to establish HydroMiner in the best possible form, maybe even as a stock corporation.

4. You are right, that the word "Review" was falsely used. We have corrected it now. Beyond that, we have already put a disclaimer on the CoinStaker website to showcase that CoinStaker is involved with HydroMiner.

5. There are many calculators on the web (https://whattomine.com/ and https://www.cryptocompare.com/mining/calculator/eth) that showcase the high ROI in mining. Those websites are not taking into account funds reserved for possible hardware problems, legal & marketing costs etc. And about the ICO, it is to scale better and faster through more capital. We have the resources to deploy more mining and can use the capital to do so.

6. We don't know where you are getting those numbers. In the whitepaper you can see that 5% are staked for the whole team, with a lockup period.

7. We have calculated, see our whitepaper, that with our current electricity costs it is more than possible to make GREAT returns.

We think it is important to keep everything as transparent as possible, so if you have any further questions, feel free to write them here.

- Team HydroMiner
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September 14, 2017, 11:59:50 AM
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1. It's "Bruck an der Mur" not "Muhr"!

2. Whois Lookup anonymous: https://www.whois.com/whois/hydrominer.org

3. Where is your registered office located? Your commercial registration number?

4. CoinStaker "Review": https://www.coinstaker.com/hydrominer-ico - This "review" was written from one of your team members. This is not a review, this is an advertisment.

5. ROI in about 8 month? Come on. Please show us your business plan. If you are able to achieve ROI in about 8 month, there is no need to collect money from the community offering a 30% stake of your business.

6. Allocation of the profits: 80% to the stake holders: 30% community stake, 70% your own = 56% plus 10 % token bu back plus 10% for the team -> you take 76% of the profits.

7. There is a reason, why most of the big mining is done in countrys with very low electricity price.


Hey Eneloop! Thanks for your write-up. Allow us to explain to you and all bitcointalk readers:

1. Typos happen. Thanks for noticing and helping us improve. 

2. We will be contacting the support on the platform over which we registered our domain to change it to public.

3. We have not incorporated a company, yet. We are currently in the process of figuring out the best company structure. After legal consultations, we figured out that it largely depends on how big the investment gets - it just has many factors like legal cost, company establishment costs, tax costs, etc. So we will wait until the tokensale is over to establish HydroMiner in the best possible form, maybe even as a stock corporation.

4. You are right, that the word "Review" was falsely used. We have corrected it now. Beyond that, we have already put a disclaimer on the CoinStaker website to showcase that CoinStaker is involved with HydroMiner.

5. There are many calculators on the web (https://whattomine.com/ and https://www.cryptocompare.com/mining/calculator/eth) that showcase the high ROI in mining. Those websites are not taking into account funds reserved for possible hardware problems, legal & marketing costs etc. And about the ICO, it is to scale better and faster through more capital. We have the resources to deploy more mining and can use the capital to do so.

6. We don't know where you are getting those numbers. In the whitepaper you can see that 5% are staked for the whole team, with a lockup period.

7. We have calculated, see our whitepaper, that with our current electricity costs it is more than possible to make GREAT returns.

We think it is important to keep everything as transparent as possible, so if you have any further questions, feel free to write them here.

- Team HydroMiner

3. In Austria, I don't think it is legal to collect money without any registered company beyond. I'm already in contact with the team of Herocoin. A real Austrian startup with good known investors supporting the project. I'm sure they are well informed about the legal background. I will post their answer as soon as I receive it.

6. I'm not talking about the use of the ICO funds (wright, 5% for the team), I'm talking about how the mining profits are distributed. You have a total token cap of 100 mio and 30 mio are sold during ICO. Therefore, 30% community stake and somebody else owns 70% (you?).
80% of the profits is distributed to the stake holders (30% community, 70% somebody else). 70% out of 80% is 56%. 10% for the team. 10% token buy back (you buy them back -> for the team). 56+10+10= 76%
What happens to tokens that are not sold during ICO?



I would have loved to have a look into your whitepaper, but it wasn't online yesterday (404 error). I will have a closer look on it during the day.
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September 14, 2017, 12:06:36 PM
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Hydroelectricity, a very interesting concept, this will be a very good environmentally friendly project, and it seems not a bad idea to invest here, hopefully it works well
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September 14, 2017, 02:32:56 PM
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Awesome project. I really love that it is in Austria, and about a 20 minute drive from where I am living.

Email sent to the team, hopefully they will get back with me soon and we can get some real info going on about the project.

Thank you for your interest!

Did you know that you can actually visit the rigs that are already installed?

If you are interested in a tour you can contact Tobias Ratschiller (@tobyra on Telegram or PM me for his email address).
We'd love to watch a video without cuts between the outside view and the inside of the building.

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September 14, 2017, 02:54:28 PM
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3. In Austria, I don't think it is legal to collect money without any registered company beyond. I'm already in contact with the team of Herocoin. A real Austrian startup with good known investors supporting the project. I'm sure they are well informed about the legal background. I will post their answer as soon as I receive it.

6. I'm not talking about the use of the ICO funds (wright, 5% for the team), I'm talking about how the mining profits are distributed. You have a total token cap of 100 mio and 30 mio are sold during ICO. Therefore, 30% community stake and somebody else owns 70% (you?).
80% of the profits is distributed to the stake holders (30% community, 70% somebody else). 70% out of 80% is 56%. 10% for the team. 10% token buy back (you buy them back -> for the team). 56+10+10= 76%
What happens to tokens that are not sold during ICO?



I would have loved to have a look into your whitepaper, but it wasn't online yesterday (404 error). I will have a closer look on it during the day.

3. HydroMiner is advised by the same legal team as Herocoin and aware of the legal background necessary for the token sale.

6. The other 70% (actually 74% as only 26M tokens are up for sale) is locked and will be sold ongoing for future mining operations (minus the tokens allocated for the bounty campaign). The team won't keep any of those tokens.
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September 14, 2017, 02:59:28 PM
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3. In Austria, I don't think it is legal to collect money without any registered company beyond. I'm already in contact with the team of Herocoin. A real Austrian startup with good known investors supporting the project. I'm sure they are well informed about the legal background. I will post their answer as soon as I receive it.

6. I'm not talking about the use of the ICO funds (wright, 5% for the team), I'm talking about how the mining profits are distributed. You have a total token cap of 100 mio and 30 mio are sold during ICO. Therefore, 30% community stake and somebody else owns 70% (you?).
80% of the profits is distributed to the stake holders (30% community, 70% somebody else). 70% out of 80% is 56%. 10% for the team. 10% token buy back (you buy them back -> for the team). 56+10+10= 76%
What happens to tokens that are not sold during ICO?



I would have loved to have a look into your whitepaper, but it wasn't online yesterday (404 error). I will have a closer look on it during the day.

3. HydroMiner is advised by the same legal team as Herocoin and aware of the legal background necessary for the token sale.

6. The other 70% (actually 74% as only 26M tokens are up for sale) is locked and will be sold ongoing for future mining operations (minus the tokens allocated for the bounty campaign). The team won't keep any of those tokens.
80% of the profit is distributed to 26 mio tokens or to the total of 100?
What is done with the unsold ICO tokens?
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September 14, 2017, 03:15:15 PM
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Information about site

   Domain Name: HYDROMINER.ORG
Registry Domain ID: D402200000002978044-LROR
Registrar WHOIS Server: whois.epik.com
Registrar URL: http://Epik.com
Updated Date: 2017-09-11T03:45:54Z
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September 14, 2017, 03:17:22 PM
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80% of the profit is distributed to 26 mio tokens or to the total of 100?
What is done with the unsold ICO tokens?

Only to 26M tokens (or as many as sold). The unsold tokens are locked and will be available for purchase in future sales.
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September 14, 2017, 03:32:27 PM
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3. We have not incorporated a company, yet. We are currently in the process of figuring out the best company structure. After legal consultations, we figured out that it largely depends on how big the investment gets - it just has many factors like legal cost, company establishment costs, tax costs, etc. So we will wait until the tokensale is over to establish HydroMiner in the best possible form, maybe even as a stock corporation.  

 Huh
Could you please explain us how you've rented hydroelectric power stations without being a registered company?
In the White Paper
Schönberg in Lower Austria (Hydro 1)
"HydroMiner rents the whole power station and has a purchase option until the end of 2018."

Murau in Styria (Hydro 2)
"In this location, HydroMiner has rented one turbine and operates with an energy price of 4.25 cents/ kW·h."

And on the picture above you are claiming to rent Freistritz the september 22, Bruck an der Muhr the october 2, Zell am See in november 2017...


How is it possible without having a legal company?

Could you post at least one contract of these rents (even with hidden private informations) ?


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September 14, 2017, 03:58:16 PM
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3. We have not incorporated a company, yet. We are currently in the process of figuring out the best company structure. After legal consultations, we figured out that it largely depends on how big the investment gets - it just has many factors like legal cost, company establishment costs, tax costs, etc. So we will wait until the tokensale is over to establish HydroMiner in the best possible form, maybe even as a stock corporation.  

 Huh
Could you please explain us how you've rented hydroelectric power stations without being a registered company?
In the White Paper
Schönberg in Lower Austria (Hydro 1)
"HydroMiner rents the whole power station and has a purchase option until the end of 2018."

Murau in Styria (Hydro 2)
"In this location, HydroMiner has rented one turbine and operates with an energy price of 4.25 cents/ kW·h."

And on the picture above you are claiming to rent Freistritz the september 22, Bruck an der Muhr the october 2, Zell am See in november 2017...


How is it possible without having a legal company?

Could you post at least one contract of these rents (even with hidden private informations) ?



You can get in contact with the team and ask to visit the rigs in person, they organize tours regularly.
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September 14, 2017, 04:05:17 PM
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80% of the profit is distributed to 26 mio tokens or to the total of 100?
What is done with the unsold ICO tokens?

Only to 26M tokens (or as many as sold). The unsold tokens are locked and will be available for purchase in future sales.
These two are one of the most important facts that have to be put into the whitepaper. In the whitepaper it's not clear how the profit is distributed to the stake holders. A posting in this thread counts for almost nothing.
What's your relation with that project? You are a team member or just any random user paid to maintain this thread?

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We'd love to watch a video without cuts between the outside view and the inside of the building.
Agree! A lot of fraud already happened with mining operations in the past.

@veranika55
This is still anonymous.
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These two are one of the most important facts that have to be put into the whitepaper. In the whitepaper it's not clear how the profit is distributed to the stake holders. A posting in this thread counts for almost nothing.
What's your relation with that project? You are a team member or just any random user paid to maintain this thread?

Thank you for the suggestion, it will be taken into consideration  Smiley

I am a part of AmaZix, our company is in charge of social media communication for HydroMiner. We work closely with the HydroMiner team and make sure that all praise, criticism and suggestions are transmitted to them.

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Agree! A lot of fraud already happened with mining operations in the past.

@veranika55
This is still anonymous.

Your concerns are justified, it's true that this has happened in the past and will continue to happen. But as I said HydroMiner is 100% transparent and anyone can visit the sites in person and testify about it.
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September 14, 2017, 07:01:40 PM
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You can get in contact with the team and ask to visit the rigs in person, they organize tours regularly.
Ok but since there is still none ANN in german, people who could visit these places don't even heard about this project...or will you pay me a travel to go there?  Huh

So one more time, I hope the team will explain us how they could rent power stations without having a registered company.
And I hope they will post some of their contracts.

Moreover an uninterrupted video of the inside and the outside of their buildings would be appreciated.


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