Is This Forum Degenerating?

[Gabi]

True that.

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[nameface]

I noticed that there are TONS of sockpuppets. Everytime a new "altcoin" (yeah well more like "scamcoin") then suddenly tons of new users start speaking about it, of course all newbies/jr members. And this happens for every new altcoin. Or other scam.

It also happens to Ripple threads that decry it as a scam. "I agree! RIPLE MUST BE A SCAM" -User with 1 post who created an account 2 seconds earlier

I can't figure out how all of these utter newbs have Ripple pegged as a scam, while I've been reading about it for weeks and I just end up liking it  Maybe I'm part of the degeneration without even realizing it.

[Matthew N. Wright]

I noticed that there are TONS of sockpuppets. Everytime a new "altcoin" (yeah well more like "scamcoin") then suddenly tons of new users start speaking about it, of course all newbies/jr members. And this happens for every new altcoin. Or other scam.

It also happens to Ripple threads that decry it as a scam. "I agree! RIPLE MUST BE A SCAM" -User with 1 post who created an account 2 seconds earlier

I can't figure out how all of these utter newbs have Ripple pegged as a scam, while I've been reading about it for weeks and I just end up liking it Maybe I'm part of the degeneration without even realizing it.

Well, it falls into the cultism of bitcoin to be honest. Anything that isn't bitcoin-like should be killed with fire according to them, and I admit, anything that requires trust seems like a step *backward*, except that our current system requires IMMENSE trust (MtGox, AurumXChange, both whom steal funds from their users under the guise of AML, BitStamp, BTC-E, etc etc etc).

They *think* their cryptocurrency is trust-less, yet they get hacked all the time and lose their wallets (because they needed to trust someone with their password and that someone, whether it be the third party or their own computer, was hacked). There is no world without trust. It's fine to consider Bitcoin the end-all like gold, but when choosing to trust either Ripple/OpenTransactions+BitMessage vs an exchange run by a dude, which one is better? Is either one a "scam" just because it isn't "provably fair" at the moment?

The general arguments against using Ripple are fine if all you want is a reason not to use it, but there is no reason to "destroy it", and that's when you know someone is playing games and has an agenda-- when they are actively trying to destroy something or someone that isn't causing any harm. This forum HAS degenerated, because the administrator himself supports such games (supports ponzi schemes, added TradeFortress to his trust list, refuses to give a scammer tag to BFL, has millions of dollars in bitcoins for forum upgrades that haven't even begun to happen in 12 months, continues to pile in the money from advertisements he knows are libelous against companies/people, etc).

The user below this post thinks he's doing the world a favor by trying to insult me I guess, but this kind of insult is baseless, tactless, and only serves to show you the vapid lack of quality in communication here. You can make fun of some newbie's English all day long, or tell them they should RTFM, but the real problem here is people like Inaba who spend their efforts arguing with BFL customers that they're doing a good job when any honest person could prove otherwise.

Wanna know who is causing the degeneration? Look for the people who don't admit their mistakes.

[cryptoanarchist]

Its been degenerating since this ass-monkey ^^^ joined.

Ripple is some bullshit.

[Akka]

Let's not turn this into anther ripple discussion. By know this stuff is everywhere, there are already enough threads going on about that. Post there if you want to discuss Ripple.

It really gets annoying.

[nameface]

Let's not turn this into anther ripple discussion. By know this stuff is everywhere, there are already enough threads going on about that. Post there if you want to discuss Ripple.

It really gets annoying.

+1 Ripple is becoming part of the degeneration of this forum.

[Lethn]

Before it was ASICs that was the end of everything, I'd say this is just evolution at work

[Tywill]

the whole forum structure lends itself to its own demise.  It encourages people who have absolutely nothing to say to spew random off the cuff nonsense.

[nameface]

the whole forum structure lends itself to its own demise.  It encourages people who have absolutely nothing to say to spew random off the cuff nonsense.

You make a good point. I suppose people spew the ROTCN because they want higher post counts (or perhaps they just happen to be the perfect combination of stupid and bored).

Maybe a rating system something like Google's +1 scheme would work well in a forum like this. It would punish people who post a lot while contributing little, because they would have a poor +1 to post count ratio.

[Xian01]

Civilization is degenerating

[freedomno1]

Well the ratio's are rising in members too so of every 100 getting 40 good ones 60 others some days and 80 good ones 20 others on other days maybe it degenerates from this theoretical average of quality

Civilization is degenerating

Sensibilities are becoming over-sensitive

[nameface]

Civilization is degenerating

Sensibilities are becoming over-sensitive

Degenerates are becoming overly civilized

[freedomno1]

Agreed 

[FCTaiChi]

If you look at the post count per month the last few have seen incredible growth.. as it has been mentioned the influx of new people will cause changes.
This cycle will keep happening until BTC is mainstream.  Still have a kind of early adopter community effect going at the moment, but that is slowly wearing thin as people with less ideological interest join.

[Akka]

If you look at the post count per month the last few have seen incredible growth.. as it has been mentioned the influx of new people will cause changes.
This cycle will keep happening until BTC is mainstream.  Still have a kind of early adopter community effect going at the moment, but that is slowly wearing thin as people with less ideological interest join.

Currently the main interests of this forum are very disappointing (at least to me).

Seeing a thread like this https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=212472.0 (randomly picked, there are plenty where this is true)

getting buried immediately, not even some questions about what they actually do, while the "Coin of the day" gets to 40+ pages.

Maybe this is really slowly becoming the wrong place for actual bitcoin discussion & news 

[bitcoinator]

Even though a 5-post requirement encourages meaningless posts, my personal experience shows that this forum is a moderated one. So there is some kind of order here

[dwdoc]

If I'm having a bad day can I "Ignore" myself?

[Akka]

If I'm having a bad day can I "Ignore" myself?

Sorry that's not possible. Would it make you feel better if I ignore you?

[malevolent]

If I'm having a bad day can I "Ignore" myself?

Only if you used a different account for that.

[dwdoc]

If I'm having a bad day can I "Ignore" myself?

Sorry that's not possible. Would it make you feel better if I ignore you?

I'm sorry, did you say something?