[Group buy] Avalon chips Escrow John K / Please check refund list until Sunday

[mbd4]

Code:

14YYJPj2GX245Qwt1DyeCRWvuKVeCxEnsp

Code:

GB1,mbd4,66,5.61,14YYJPj2GX245Qwt1DyeCRWvuKVeCxEnsp,R

Code:

ILqZot06SzUir5NLDPlhkT71QvrNlVh3UvfGD7kCODMVrY7JuWu5+79QK+M6u2CA6T1/3aO8lw+LvsMPirkg5fI=

[fex]

After running some calculations I vote for a refund even tough I already paid for PCBs

Code:

GB1,fex,48,4.2,19bKGxRDdQzxZCiomBQTCJdTuY9hY8MaAG,R

Signature with 19bKGxRDdQzxZCiomBQTCJdTuY9hY8MaAG

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ICaYQSUBujFApev8mMqJvo6x07Vqmh6cS5NTzJDmKH6AkzTcrFbtGtcDP2KZUkwoVnfK6JgtdvyKlu7AUgnnO2c=

[darkfriend77]

GB1 Refund requests

- SIGNED
32 ... darkfriend77 ... refund LINK
2112 ... dimomit ... refund LINK
188 ... Min€r ... refund LINK
320 ... patica ... refund LINK
1320 ... hacko.bg ... refund LINK
66 ... mbd4 ... refund LINK
48 ... fex ... refund LINK

We are @4086 ... Chips! Signed votes!

- UNSIGNED
quest   ...  128 ... refund LINK
joeventura ... 16 ...refund LINK
souspeed ... 32 ... refund LINK
varunsin ... 16 ... refund LINK
pajak666 ... 36 ...refund LINK
Betatester ... 33 ... refund LINK
LainZ ... 32 ... refund LINK
hookthem ... 16 ... refund LINK
jkminkov ... 980 ... refund LINK

[jkminkov]

Code:

GB#1, jkminkov, 980, 83.3, 173Qmir9hTmvkb3Cmvgj78AV2CjL5azZYS, R

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signed with 173Qmir9hTmvkb3Cmvgj78AV2CjL5azZYS

[racquemis]

4086+980 makes 5066 .
Time for a refund

[mitty]

Request:

Code:

GB1, mitty, 214, 18.19, 12qGq8GLeqzstyxhJbVY8oEwEDfPhUyYDV, R

Signature:

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H7qYdwfLQlirNjLp9c2GSmhp3ldnT6AFQbbZhFNkYHRR3xA1ees4nbd8hzw6FWa6lTJiEPOn1dITC/Ksd3AiCms=

Note that you won't find my address in the original order list since I bought the chips from dddbtc.  Here are the details of the ownership change:
Message:

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I dddbtc, hereby transfer ownership of 214 avalon chips from marto74 batch #1 Order No #34 to mitty.

dddbtc's address:

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dddbtc's Signature:

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Post containing details of dddbtc's ownership: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=217316.msg2283797#msg2283797
(look for this line: 246;20.91;1G6cQM3R2sFk5nBjjnXE1o9EUxvDsnYes4)

Thank you!

[BenTuras]

Code:

GB2, BenTuras, 400, 34, 1CbgVtZu64sBvWH5JSUfm1vMNZyTPJnJFV, R

Code:

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@Martin: We'll sort something out on the ordered boards and hosting, for example Fury16's ;-)

[darkfriend77]

GB1 Refund requests

- SIGNED
32 ... darkfriend77 ... refund LINK
2112 ... dimomit ... refund LINK
188 ... Min€r ... refund LINK
320 ... patica ... refund LINK
1320 ... hacko.bg ... refund LINK
66 ... mbd4 ... refund LINK
48 ... fex ... refund LINK
980 ... jkminkov ... refund LINK
214 ... mitty ... refund LINK
...
...

Refund requests reached more then 50% for GB1!

Please do the appropriated steps to request a refund asap ... !

[marto74]

Code:

GB2, BenTuras, 400, 34, 1CbgVtZu64sBvWH5JSUfm1vMNZyTPJnJFV, R

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IDW3fGVF8sddEfHiKOLFaTT17Hr/dUiCoNldIYsxLP8xvQb5TfjeEOeXVRL2b9Wbd6JQxYpEKz1bVt1esDtQGT4=

@Martin: We'll sort something out on the ordered boards and hosting, for example Fury16's ;-)

For the ordered boards they are scheduled for populating in wednesday.
So no refund there except if somebody takes your place. The needed chips for this will be bought from zefir
I'll send a message to jhon.K to do refund now.
Everybody that ordered and paid PCB's will get them no refund there.
Everybody that wants chips will get them too.
This is efective for both GB1 and GB2

Martin

[marto74]

Hi,
John,

In order there is no shiping info from Avalon I put a vote in the group buy and more than 50% of the participants want to go for refund. Please fill in the refund form for our order ASAP and post a copy in the tread.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=217316.msg3165672#msg3165672

Best Regards : Martin

[twisted]

So I'm totally confused with all this... I was expecting some clarification regarding ordered boards. Do you have all the chips needed for all the ordered boards to be populated? I'm trying to figure when I'll receive my boards (even though if I had the chance I would ask for refund for both chips and boards). Do you have in mind any other option besides refund for the boards (i.e exchanging our orders with S-boards)?

[BenTuras]

Code:

GB2, BenTuras, 400, 34, 1CbgVtZu64sBvWH5JSUfm1vMNZyTPJnJFV, R

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@Martin: We'll sort something out on the ordered boards and hosting, for example Fury16's ;-)

For the ordered boards they are scheduled for populating in wednesday.
So no refund there except if somebody takes your place. The needed chips for this will be bought from zefir
I'll send a message to jhon.K to do refund now.
Everybody that ordered and paid PCB's will get them no refund there.
Everybody that wants chips will get them too.
This is efective for both GB1 and GB2

Martin

That's news for me. My chip order is GB2(so chips not in yet), but I am in the board order you made. Ok, I can live with that.

[fex]

After running some calculations I vote for a refund even tough I already paid for PCBs

Code:

GB1,fex,48,4.2,19bKGxRDdQzxZCiomBQTCJdTuY9hY8MaAG,R

Signature with 19bKGxRDdQzxZCiomBQTCJdTuY9hY8MaAG

Code:

ICaYQSUBujFApev8mMqJvo6x07Vqmh6cS5NTzJDmKH6AkzTcrFbtGtcDP2KZUkwoVnfK6JgtdvyKlu7AUgnnO2c=

For the ordered boards they are scheduled for populating in wednesday.
So no refund there except if somebody takes your place. The needed chips for this will be bought from zefir
I'll send a message to jhon.K to do refund now.
Everybody that ordered and paid PCB's will get them no refund there.
Everybody that wants chips will get them too.
This is efective for both GB1 and GB2

Further clarification needed: I'm in GB1 and ordered three boards - will those be populated this week?

If yes:
Great!

If no:
As GB1-chips did not arrive, please REFUND my chips and keep the boards as a gift. However, please return the 30€ for shipping.

[alwind]

Why cant you refund the shippings costs of the hardware if we dont want it shipped ?

[marto74]

After running some calculations I vote for a refund even tough I already paid for PCBs

Code:

GB1,fex,48,4.2,19bKGxRDdQzxZCiomBQTCJdTuY9hY8MaAG,R

Signature with 19bKGxRDdQzxZCiomBQTCJdTuY9hY8MaAG

Code:

ICaYQSUBujFApev8mMqJvo6x07Vqmh6cS5NTzJDmKH6AkzTcrFbtGtcDP2KZUkwoVnfK6JgtdvyKlu7AUgnnO2c=

For the ordered boards they are scheduled for populating in wednesday.
So no refund there except if somebody takes your place. The needed chips for this will be bought from zefir
I'll send a message to jhon.K to do refund now.
Everybody that ordered and paid PCB's will get them no refund there.
Everybody that wants chips will get them too.
This is efective for both GB1 and GB2

Further clarification needed: I'm in GB1 and ordered three boards - will those be populated this week?

If yes:
Great!

If no:
As GB1-chips did not arrive, please REFUND my chips and keep the boards as a gift. However, please return the 30€ for shipping.

I'll be able to give you confirmation until wednesday

Martin

[racquemis]

Even with the news known that started this mess, marto ordered the PCBs. That really was a bad decision.Don't know what he was thinking. Now us people with orderded boards are basically screwed, forcing us to take the boards and chips.

Anyone know the price zefir is selling the chips? I seriously hope he doesn't get them at a reduced price without compensating us.

[marto74]

Even with the news known that started this mess, marto ordered the PCBs. That really was a bad decision.Don't know what he was thinking. Now us people with orderded boards are basically screwed, forcing us to take the boards and chips.

Anyone know the price zefir is selling the chips? I seriously hope he doesn't get them at a reduced price without compensating us.

You are not wright.
The time for confirmation for the first batch of PCB's was 30 of August, everybody was free to walk out before that.
That is my statment from 28-th of August

Dear, Customers,

After populating the new double power suply design of HEX 16 in Friday, We started testing and the board is working @450 MHz .

@ the moment We are  to make 72 hour burnin test. A few minor adjustments had to be made :

-New buffering algorithm in the PIC

-A few electrolyte capacitors added

We are working on CGMiner drivers for HEX16A  @ the moment .

Also We are making new sample heat sinks for HEX16 in order to provide enough cooling for OC-ed boards

As far the PCB design is now tested and any changes would be only software ( firmware) We are going to place bare PCB order in Friday.

Until the moment We have paid orders for about 500 boards @ the moment and received 2500 customer chips, that have to be populated soon.

If you have placed order and did not paid it yet , please do it until Friday if you want to get in the first batch PCB's

Again this is for HEX16 design only. The K16 design is not tested in full yet so these orders are on hold for now.

DO HAVE IN MIND THAT DELIVERY OF THE AVALON QFN48 CHIPS IS UP TO AVALON!!

But in any case these chips get here we have to be prepared to populate boards ASAP

 

Regards: Martin

The messy part of this Avalon Saga was officially announced same day from Zefir
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=177827.msg3029465#msg3029465

Also after 28-th of August I have more than 100 orders for HEX16.

I do understand your anger . Believe me I'm angry to Avalon team too. I've tried to contact them many times since GB1 delivery time had come with no success.
On top of the ordered PCB's I have paid and delivered components for more than 1000 boards, and also significant amount spent on components for the failed for now Klondike project.
What I promised is that every order with me will be shiped in up to 4 weeks after delivery of Avalon chips . I'll now do it in 2 weeks.
So You are accusing me in what crime?

Peace
Martin

[marto74]

P.S.
The chips will be purchased from zefir on the original price

[racquemis]

Still i don't understand why we are forced to take the boards and chips when there are other options.
As Avalon has stated gen2 has the same footprint & pinout as the gen1 chips. As soon as those release people will want boards.

Why not just refund the chips and hold the boards for gen2? People that want gen2 chips can hold their order until the new chips are delivered. And people that don't want to the hold the board for themselves could wait for a new gen2 customer to buy a board @ technobit after which refunds can be made.

This option wouldn't hurt you in funds and could actually be of benefit since you now have boards in stock for quick assembly of gen2.
Sure, there is no garantuee all boards would be bought by new customers. But at least a good portion of this GB could get refunded eventually.

Everybody can get their chips refunded this way. I'd rather wait several months for a refund on the boards then having no chip refund at all. It beats having to wait three weeks for the boards to arrive lowering the ROI even further.

[marto74]

Still i don't understand why we are forced to take the boards and chips when there are other options.
As Avalon has stated gen2 has the same footprint & pinout as the gen1 chips. As soon as those release people will want boards.

Why not just refund the chips and hold the boards for gen2? People that want gen2 chips can hold their order until the new chips are delivered. And people that don't want to the hold the board for themselves could wait for a new gen2 customer to buy a board @ technobit after which refunds can be made.

This option wouldn't hurt you in funds and could actually be of benefit since you now have boards in stock for quick assembly of gen2.
Sure, there is no garantuee all boards would be bought by new customers. But at least a good portion of this GB could get refunded eventually.

Everybody can get their chips refunded this way. I'd rather wait several months for a refund on the boards then having no chip refund at all. It beats having to wait three weeks for the boards to arrive lowering the ROI even further.

What exactly is your wish?