[Group buy] Avalon chips Escrow John K / Please check refund list until Sunday

[racquemis]

Well like i said, just refund the chips, hold the board and refund that one at a later date when hex16 board can be used for gen2 chips (or if another buyer wants a gen1 board) I think that would be the best solution of most people with boards ordered. For me it will mean a chip refund of around 250 euro worth of BTC which is more then I could mine from a assembled board  .

This is under the assumption that chips will actually get refunded by avalon. On the Bizwoo GB. GB2 has been refunded while GB1 has been waiting far longer and still doesn't have a refund.

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[pajak666]

Code:

GB1,pajak666, 36 , 3.06 ,  1P4J4Kcib7WEQGxtdcjEwXsDnDJ5BYkpPy, R

Code:

HCy/7QykWCBHThA2mAsTt9cBhxjJiHhsrwlhtuJINsAD/+RyemCqIydLcWuJUJjNgjYeDdFMqPFikyzh93sbWiQ=

Marto that is so lame, you are delaying refund in every possible way.
I belive all other Group Buyers did allow their participants to take refund and they done it really quick and smooth.
you are delaying the refund for the whole time.Monday, monday came now we have to vote lol.
Riddic signed messages voting just to get some more hours, just to receive that tracking info from Avalon.
Really I didn't expected that from you.

[nemercry]

Refund request:

Code:

GB1,nemercry,32,2.72,13niA2BjbXg3p3g6YvUy1RCm79AwB9tzgc,R

Signed message:

Code:

HFfQEpDTv/OoeBDpv0dVcjaNmcBMiwgJ4GFCwlP9KNoa6QCBj7230Wj30XMXw2piheMPxh6PspwdMDTb6kbIAb8=

[nitrox]

GB1;nitrox;32;2.76;1FD6Mq8PR2s3iS1w33WFD8gCsEBha2b5Px;Chips

[ilpirata79]

Well like i said, just refund the chips, hold the board and refund that one at a later date when hex16 board can be used for gen2 chips (or if another buyer wants a gen1 board) I think that would be the best solution of most people with boards ordered. For me it will mean a chip refund of around 250 euro worth of BTC which is more then I could mine from a assembled board  .

This is under the assumption that chips will actually get refunded by avalon. On the Bizwoo GB. GB2 has been refunded while GB1 has been waiting far longer and still doesn't have a refund.

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[dnaleor]

marto74,

Unfortunately I did not pay for the chips directly to you, I bought chips via dnaleor (groupbuy) and chips from souliouz.

Therefore it is kind of difficult for me to vote, however I want my 32 chips refunded!

Please refund the 32 chips to my address below:
1a7wnM5WWa1jUjSYvGkFc4FoS3BkQ2Suy


Below are the details used on technobit.eu for payment and assembly of the bitcoin miner.

If you placed multiple orders with different bitcoin addresses, enter all of them. :
20 chips (dnaleor groupbuy): 1DKaP1CCaEFBBZFMFKHey11SULgptSSdXU
12 chips (souliouz /no34):1a7wnM5WWa1jUjSYvGkFc4FoS3BkQ2Suy
Bitcointalk username : souspeed

if needed, I'll sign messages with the group buy address, don't worry

[quest]

quest;128;10.88;1GjAbLU8UTn4YArcGv4kRnkMtWnqe5aq4c;REFUND

G9jq/43tWzbZl3woGk7Mlby+V3TuptbwSnlb27L0XUkBs/4wP/dqyCCS0FQayaNerClLHFWsPvNd8acW/FjZ+/g=

[quest]

this a pretty lame tactic to even get the refund delayed more ... in the hope it gets shipped ... we allready had more then 50% of chip amounts from users of GB1 voting for a refund ... sad that your are acting  ... like that ... there where some good examples ... from zefir, sebastianJu & bizwoo ... how to organize ... a gb refund ... you show us that ... it can be done the otherway ...

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[marto74]

Code:

GB1,pajak666, 36 , 3.06 ,  1P4J4Kcib7WEQGxtdcjEwXsDnDJ5BYkpPy, R

Code:

HCy/7QykWCBHThA2mAsTt9cBhxjJiHhsrwlhtuJINsAD/+RyemCqIydLcWuJUJjNgjYeDdFMqPFikyzh93sbWiQ=

Marto that is so lame, you are delaying refund in every possible way.
I belive all other Group Buyers did allow their participants to take refund and they done it really quick and smooth.
you are delaying the refund for the whole time.Monday, monday came now we have to vote lol.
Riddic signed messages voting just to get some more hours, just to receive that tracking info from Avalon.
Really I didn't expected that from you.

The GB1 was scheduled for delivery last week of August.
There are more than 4000 chip owners that still want chips delivered.
I have to honor everybody and decided to wait delivery to become late more than 2 weeks.
Remember I'm not responsible for Avalon.
And asking for signed vote is the only way for you to prove legit ownership.
And you are calling me lame
Thank you very much

[quest]

Riddic signed messages voting just to get some more hours, just to receive that tracking info from Avalon.

This was funny i did not expect this. Marto allowed pre vote under the condition that is was for GB1.

As a last hope marto introduced "signed message" when he saw that more that 50% of GB1 wants a refund, hoping to let the chips ship .

And asking for signed vote is the only way for you to prove legit ownership.

Why dind't you post that you want signed message? You only posted that the pre vote must be for GB1!

[marto74]

Riddic signed messages voting just to get some more hours, just to receive that tracking info from Avalon.

This was funny i did not expect this. Marto allowed pre vote under the condition that is was for GB1.

As a last hope marto introduced "signed message" when he saw that more than 50% of GB1 wants a refund, hoping to let the chips ship .

I'm answering here to you all.
 I'm going to stop now., there is no point in this discussion anymore.
Again I understand that you all are angry ,but it's not my fault.
I always did what I promised .
I'll post here as soon I have more news.

[darkfriend77]

Code:

GB1,pajak666, 36 , 3.06 ,  1P4J4Kcib7WEQGxtdcjEwXsDnDJ5BYkpPy, R

Code:

HCy/7QykWCBHThA2mAsTt9cBhxjJiHhsrwlhtuJINsAD/+RyemCqIydLcWuJUJjNgjYeDdFMqPFikyzh93sbWiQ=

Marto that is so lame, you are delaying refund in every possible way.
I belive all other Group Buyers did allow their participants to take refund and they done it really quick and smooth.
you are delaying the refund for the whole time.Monday, monday came now we have to vote lol.
Riddic signed messages voting just to get some more hours, just to receive that tracking info from Avalon.
Really I didn't expected that from you.

The GB1 was scheduled for delivery last week of August.
There are more than 4000 chip owners that still want chips delivered.
I have to honor everybody and decided to wait delivery to become late more than 2 weeks.
Remember I'm not responsible for Avalon.
And you are calling me lame
Thank you very much

marto74, with all the problems that Yifu ... and Avalon have done ...
Why would you wait another 2-3 Weeks, if you get the opportunity to get a refund of this sad "AvalonChipShit" asap?
Why haven't you not just started to get votes earlier? Pretty sure 50% would have been reached, since some days already.

I can understand your point of view concerning you as a reseller. But you started a GB for chips .... nothing more ...
we don't agreed to be part of your risks as a reseller ... you haven't communicated with users that where voting for a refund ...
offering them some opportunities or just trying to find some ... for them ... you just postponed your decision ... and dictated
us a date where you will decide ... you seem to forget who made this GB possible ...

If this refund fails ... you save some dollars ... but you will lose a lot of credibility if you haven't lost already.

I hope this will get a good end for you and for us ...

[quest]

Lets hope we receive full refund soon  . Marto despite the problems thanks for organising this groupbuy.

Edit: i hope that John (John K.) request for a refund today.

[dnaleor]

Hi marto,

I understand the situation, it's not looking good


But the members of my group buy want some answers:
All ofthem ordered and paid for PCB production, most of them ordered HEX16A (or switched to HEX16A)

1) If they request refund for their chips, will they get refunded and if so, will they also get a refund for the shipping cost? Or will they need to accept the miners
2) If they request to receive the miners, what will be approximatly the date that you will be able to send the miners?

I will post a signed message in a few minutes with the number of chips for refund and for miner production. I will also need to send you the "order numbers list" again because some people who ordered together to save shipping costs want a refund and other don't want a refund.

This message will be updated daily. If people don't respond, count them as "I want my miner" and not as "I want refund"

thx in advance

[marto74]

Hi marto,

I understand the situation, it's not looking good


But the members of my group buy want some answers:
All ofthem ordered and paid for PCB production, most of them ordered HEX16A (or switched to HEX16A)

1) If they request refund for their chips, will they get refunded and if so, will they also get a refund for the shipping cost? Or will they need to accept the miners
2) If they request to receive the miners, what will be approximatly the date that you will be able to send the miners?

I will post a signed message in a few minutes with the number of chips for refund and for miner production. I will also need to send you the "order numbers list" again because some people who ordered together to save shipping costs want a refund and other don't want a refund.

This message will be updated daily. If people don't respond, count them as "I want my miner" and not as "I want refund"

thx in advance

HI,
The chip refund request - I did already asked Jhon.K to do it. I do not have a confirmation .
As soon the request is done by Avalon Jhon. K will send coins to the participants , that want a refund.
Of course if somebody with ordered miner refund his chips he'll get also refund for the shipping.
I got an agreement with zefir and he'll send about more than 4000 chips my way this week.
So I'll be able  hopefully to dispatch all ordered miner until the end of next week.

[dnaleor]

ok marto, thx for the answer. I'll send a first update in a couple of hours.
as said before, I'll update this daily.

So some chips of on my address will need refund, and some chips will be used for production of miners. off course, i'll distribute the refund to the people who asked for refund

[Zich]

Hi Martin,


I had 20 chip from sebastianJu Batch 1 & 8 chips from yours Batch 2. I still need 4 chips for make complete miner. Can you arrange for buying 4 chips from zefir ?

[dnaleor]

votes for the dnaleor group buy (i'll update this every day with new incoming votes)

Code:

1DKaP1CCaEFBBZFMFKHey11SULgptSSdXU

GB1, dnaleor, 605, 51.425, 1DKaP1CCaEFBBZFMFKHey11SULgptSSdXU
votes: 84 refund, 179 chips+assembly

Code:

HwjLGuoa1tANK+4eiWiLE2m+1nBoaravIf1SmSDtDfVvwJOsLRVPEr9HfCu1kQcUalWlb5haYRwyqu93JKPLS1E=

I've send you a longer message by PM. But I wanted to post this public too, so the members of my group buy can see that I did what I promised

updated, see below

[twisted]

Hi marto,

I understand the situation, it's not looking good


But the members of my group buy want some answers:
All ofthem ordered and paid for PCB production, most of them ordered HEX16A (or switched to HEX16A)

1) If they request refund for their chips, will they get refunded and if so, will they also get a refund for the shipping cost? Or will they need to accept the miners
2) If they request to receive the miners, what will be approximatly the date that you will be able to send the miners?

I will post a signed message in a few minutes with the number of chips for refund and for miner production. I will also need to send you the "order numbers list" again because some people who ordered together to save shipping costs want a refund and other don't want a refund.

This message will be updated daily. If people don't respond, count them as "I want my miner" and not as "I want refund"

thx in advance

HI,
The chip refund request - I did already asked Jhon.K to do it. I do not have a confirmation .
As soon the request is done by Avalon Jhon. K will send coins to the participants , that want a refund.
Of course if somebody with ordered miner refund his chips he'll get also refund for the shipping.
I got an agreement with zefir and he'll send about more than 4000 chips my way this week.
So I'll be able  hopefully to dispatch all ordered miner until the end of next week.

If this is the case then I prefer that I have the miners.

Thank you,
Twisted

[racquemis]

Okay, so people with miners on order can get their chips and shipping costs refunded.  That leaves the boards itself. Do we need to write those off as a loss? or can we keep the board/order for gen2 for possible assembly or refund? I would appreciate a official word on that.